Not quite what might be expected . . .

[Owlswing]

I'll bet this is going to stir some shit in the ol' U S!

http://www.worldreligionnews.com/religion-news/the-satanic-temple-is-helping-protect-children-from-abuse

[Brownie]

I read the article.  Do schools in the USA still use corporal punishment?  It no longer happens here, teachers and staff also have to be careful what they say and there must be no bullying by anyone, teachers and pupils. Not saying it never happens of course but it isn't allowed and there are penalties if it comes to light. I wouldn't have thought the US were that far behind us.

[Owlswing]

I read the article.  Do schools in the USA still use corporal punishment?  It no longer happens here, teachers and staff also have to be careful what they say and there must be no bullying by anyone, teachers and pupils. Not saying it never happens of course but it isn't allowed and there are penalties if it comes to light. I wouldn't have thought the US were that far behind us.

It would appear otherwise - wasn't there a video of some child being beaten by an armed guard a little while ago.

From what little I know of American schools, up to college level. corporal punishment is rife, and verbal abuse is considered perfectly normal..

[Walt Zingmatilder]

From what little I know of American schools, up to college level. corporal punishment is rife, and verbal abuse is considered perfectly normal..

Same as in the UK although it's the teachers who are corporally punished and verbally abused....like every other public service.

[Owlswing]

Same as in the UK although it's the teachers who are corporally punished and verbally abused....like every other public service.

You comment was fine until you added the politics to it.

[Hope]

I'm just surprised that it has taken said grouyp this long to get involved; churches, education leaders and other such organisations have been talking about the issue for some years.  I remember a keynote speech on the issue at the TESOL Convention back in the early noughties, and it was one of the topics discussed at the Christian Educators in TESOL caucus meetings during that event.

[Brownie]

Teachers are not generally abused in the UK, Jonique.  We hear about those who are when it happens,rarely.  It used to be the general rule for teachers to almost ritually abuse their charges, mentally and physically, over here and now it is outlawed thank goodness.  Maybe you never experienced it.  However this is about the USA and I didn't know they were still permitted to use corporal punishment over there.  It's about time they stopped it.

[Owlswing]

I'm just surprised that it has taken said grouyp this long to get involved; churches, education leaders and other such organisations have been talking about the issue for some years.  I remember a keynote speech on the issue at the TESOL Convention back in the early noughties, and it was one of the topics discussed at the Christian Educators in TESOL caucus meetings during that event.

All your knowledge of everything and you are "just surprised"!

It must really bust your Christian balls that the Satanic Temple is taking up the cause of children abused in American schools when your lot have fought tooth and nail for years to ensure that the Temple was removed from existence as an afront to everything that Christian America stood for.

They fought with every legal, and some not so legal, weapon they could find to prevent the Temple being built.

TESOL - what has abuse of students in American schools to do with Teachers of English to Speakers of Other Languages?

[Hope]

It must really bust your Christian balls that the Satanic Temple is taking up the cause of children abused in American schools when your lot have fought tooth and nail for years to ensure that the Temple was removed from existence as an afront to everything that Christian America stood for.

OK, Owl - two things.  I am really pleased that this bunch have finally caught up with the rest of society in this respect - I think that it goes without question that everyone ought to be involved in stopping child abuse; but 2) I have to admit to having never heard of the group until you introduced them in the OP.

They fought with every legal, and some not so legal, weapon they could find to prevent the Temple being built.

Not being American, I don't manage to follow every element of American news - I don't even manage that for British news.

TESOL - what has abuse of students in American schools to do with Teachers of English to Speakers of Other Languages?

Teachers can often be amongst the first to recognise the signs of child abuse and are often the recipients of 'disclosures'.  The address I referred to was therefore a way of highlighting the issue and dealing with some new legislation that - as far as I, a non-American not working in America, could make out - had been introduced in a number of the states.  Remember that the teaching of English to Speakers of Other Languages takes place throughout the education systems of both the UK and the US (not to mention the Republic of Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, etc., etc.)

[Owlswing]

Remember that the teaching of English to Speakers of Other Languages takes place throughout the education systems of both the UK and the US (not to mention the Republic of Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, etc., etc.)

Except, of course, that what they speak in America is not English, but the improved (messed about with) American version