The Islamic State love.

[Leonard James]

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/04/25/bangladesh-lgbt-editor-xulhaz-mannan-hacked-to-death-in-brutal-attack/

[jeremyp]

Sadly, in God's eyes it is more evil to be gay than to hack somebody to death with a machete.

[Leonard James]

Sadly, in God's eyes it is more evil to be gay than to hack somebody to death with a machete.

How long is it going to take for these obstinate, cruel bastards to see the falsity of their beliefs? 

[Harrowby Hall]

How long is it going to take for these obstinate, cruel bastards to see the falsity of their beliefs? 

Sadly, a very, very long time.

[john]

And meanwhile they are doing their very best to spread this pernicious ideology all over the world...... With some success it must be said.

[trippymonkey]

They must be utterly destroyed like the stinking, filthy virus they are !!!!!

Nick

[Bubbles]

They must be utterly destroyed like the stinking, filthy virus they are !!!!!

Nick

Who needs to be utterly destroyed?

Muslims?

This isn't the Islamic state, this is India.

Yes it's wrong, but who are you recommending wiping out here?

[trippymonkey]

IS Of course !!!!!
Whether we mentally change them or physically 'remove' them, either is fine with me !!!

[Aruntraveller]

This isn't the Islamic state, this is India.

I think you'll find its Bangladesh.

[Bubbles]

I think you'll find its Bangladesh.

Indian continent then 

[Bubbles]

IS Of course !!!!!
Whether we mentally change them or physically 'remove' them, either is fine with me !!!

Is this in Bangladesh, the same group as the Islamic state? Or another group?

[Bubbles]

There are so many different extremist groups.

They are not all ISIS.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-terror-threat-isis-threaten-124838899.html

It is concerning, but I do think we do need to not lump them all under Isis because it gives Isis more power than they deserve ( not that they deserve any).

But it makes them sound more important than they are.

They are just one group.

[Bubbles]

Al qaeda

Who were the main enemy yesterday, don't seem to get on with the Islamic state for example

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/al-qaeda-declares-war-isis-6422015


To give the Islamic state credit for all anti western acts of terrorism is to make them even bigger and more influential than perhaps they are.

If they weren't fighting " the west" they would be fighting each other.

Just because Isis claims to be behind killings in Bangladesh, doesn't mean they are.

They just want people to think they are.

It suits their purposes.

There  are many other groups it could be, IMO.

[Rhiannon]

IS will claim responsibility for roadworks on the M1 to the fact it's snowing in April.

Although atrocities such as the Paris attacks come directly from IS many others are carried out by people inspired by them or who choose to identify with them.

[Shaker]

If they weren't fighting " the west" they would be fighting each other.

Deal.

[Brownie]

I'd settle for that.....but the Americans would probably want to send in troops.

[Rhiannon]

What they actually do is try to out-compete each other in savagery. We don't hear so much of Al Qaeda these days, but it's there. It's partly why the twats who blow up themselves and other Muslims in various parts of the Arab world shout 'death to America' as they do it. They are playing to a particular audience.

[Hope]

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/04/25/bangladesh-lgbt-editor-xulhaz-mannan-hacked-to-death-in-brutal-attack/

When I first heard this news, it was being laid at the Taliban's feet.  I may disagree with the ideas that Xulhaz was propounding, but I join all Baptists in arguing for his right to do so without forfeiting his life - whoever committed the atrocity.

[Hope]

What they actually do is try to out-compete each other in savagery. We don't hear so much of Al Qaeda these days, but it's there. It's partly why the twats who blow up themselves and other Muslims in various parts of the Arab world shout 'death to America' as they do it. They are playing to a particular audience.

Al-Qaeda hve been very active in places like the Yemen and that area of the Arab world.

[The Accountant, OBE, KC]

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/04/25/bangladesh-lgbt-editor-xulhaz-mannan-hacked-to-death-in-brutal-attack/

That's horrible. AQIS (Al Qaeda in the Indian Sub-continent) have claimed responsibility.

AQIS claims to have targeted specific people who they deem to have "insulted the religion of Islam" but it seems the main reason is because it was the only way to shut them up.

In May 2015, AQIS leader Asim Umar, claimed responsibility for the murders of six people who were supposedly “blasphemers.” Umar claimed that his jihadists were responsible for killing Rajib Haider (a blogger murdered in February 2013), Muhammad Shakil Auj (who was the dean of Islamic Studies at the University of Karachi when he was shot in September 2014), Shafiul Islam (a professor at Rajshahi University who was killed in September 2014), Aniqa Naz (a Pakistani blogger), Avijit Roy (a prominent atheist blogger hacked to death in February 2015) and Washiqur Rahman (a blogger who was killed in March 2015).

Journalists being hacked to death is one of the risks of a very dangerous profession in many of these countries where violence and political corruption and knives and machetes are part of everyday life. Journalists were hacked to death in Sri Lanka for being critical of the government. In other countries journalists are more commonly shot or  blown up with high tech weapons rather than knifed.

Openly disagreeing with someone and trying to sway public opinion are seen as hostile acts and there are criminal elements who will do whatever it takes to shut those voices up. They presumably want to create fear to try to dissuade other vocal critics - also, being feared makes some people feel powerful and effective as fear can be used to control the actions of others.

[Leonard James]

That's horrible. AQIS (Al Qaeda in the Indian Sub-continent) have claimed responsibility.

AQIS claims to have targeted specific people who they deem to have "insulted the religion of Islam" but it seems the main reason is because it was the only way to shut them up.
 

Journalists being hacked to death is one of the risks of a very dangerous profession in many of these countries where violence and political corruption and knives and machetes are part of everyday life. Journalists were hacked to death in Sri Lanka for being critical of the government. In other countries journalists are more commonly shot or  blown up with high tech weapons rather than knifed.

Openly disagreeing with someone and trying to sway public opinion are seen as hostile acts and there are criminal elements who will do whatever it takes to shut those voices up. They presumably want to create fear to try to dissuade other vocal critics - also, being feared makes some people feel powerful and effective as fear can be used to control the actions of others.

It's all so gut-wrenchingly sad. Let's hope we can grow out of it.

[The Accountant, OBE, KC]

Nice pipe dream and you say that a lot but not sure what you are basing this hope on that somehow humans will outgrow human behaviour.

Personally, I think it is unrealistic to expect there will be no criminal behaviour - the higher the stakes, the more likely it is that there will be some people who will resort to criminal or unethical behaviour to protect their interests, even if that means killing lots of people through wars or killing individual people.  It seems to be  part of the natural variations in human behaviour.

[Leonard James]

Nice pipe dream and you say that a lot but not sure what you are basing this hope on that somehow humans will outgrow human behaviour.

Personally, I think it is unrealistic to expect there will be no criminal behaviour - the higher the stakes, the more likely it is that there will be some people who will resort to criminal or unethical behaviour to protect their interests, even if that means killing lots of people through wars or killing individual people.  It seems to be  part of the natural variations in human behaviour.

We can never hope for nature or evolution to rid us of the scourge of killing others at will, so we have to try to achieve it ourselves. My hope is that eventually humans can be educated to realise the futility of such behaviour and outlaw it universally. Pipe dream it may be, but it is all we can do.

[The Accountant, OBE, KC]

Good luck with that bit of wishful thinking for spontaneous world peace - otherwise ,who would enforce it in the event that disputes are not resolved through diplomacy due to unequal economic and military power?

Greed, fear, laziness and killing people who try to get in the way has prompted a lot of discoveries, innovations, and inventions throughout history. Migration seems to be a natural human behaviour but it doesn't look like education has helped people to realise the futility of trying to stop human migration.

One consequence of education and progress is that people are living longer, which leads to more people fighting for control of resources.

[Leonard James]

World peace and unity will not come spontaneously, but by small, difficult steps. The ignorance of dividing humanity into groups will be overcome by education.