The Decietful And Insidious EU.

[Jack Knave]

http://www.ukipdaily.com/really-governs-us/

‘Europe’s nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.’ Jean Monnet, Founding Father of the European Union

A superstate was what the USSR was. Centrally controlled against the will of the people.

[jeremyp]

Your link has the word "ukip" in it. Are we expected to believe it is remotely capable of presenting a truthful view of the EU?

[Brownie]

I can't believe anyone on here is linking to a UKIP publication.

This site will lead you to an article that states Monnet did not say that.
http://www.jcm.org.uk/blog/2009/03/exclusive-the-danger-of-jean-monnet/

[L.A.]

The only surprise would be if UKIP failed to deliver this kind of trash.

[Aruntraveller]

Definition of 'knave':

1. A dishonest or unscrupulous man

2. (in cards) a jack.

I post this purely for information.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

http://www.ukipdaily.com/really-governs-us/

‘Europe’s nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.’ Jean Monnet, Founding Father of the European Union

A superstate was what the USSR was. Centrally controlled against the will of the people.

The USSR was an empire, not a superstate.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

The only surprise would be if UKIP failed to deliver this kind of trash.

Ukip do not know the difference between the Europe Union, and the Council for Europe.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Is the leave campaign now prepared to tell us who in this country will get the repatriated money from a brexit (none of the vague we will all benefit bollocks please) and how many skilled people from outside the EU the country will let in and what their wages will be.

Could they also outline what rights enjoyed by British workers will be removed at Brexit

[L.A.]

Ukip do not know the difference between the Europe Union, and the Council for Europe.

Most of them don't know the difference between their arse and their elbow.

[jakswan]

Is the leave campaign now prepared to tell us who in this country will get the repatriated money from a brexit (none of the vague we will all benefit bollocks please)

To be decided by the UK government in power at the time.

and how many skilled people from outside the EU the country will let in and what their wages will be.

To be decided by the UK government in power at the time.

Could they also outline what rights enjoyed by British workers will be removed at Brexit

To be decided by the UK government in power at the time.

Is the leave campaign now prepared to tell us how much more we will have to pay, how much immigration will be from the EU, what laws the EU will  be changing over the next ten years?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

To be decided by the UK government in power at the time.

To be decided by the UK government in power at the time.

To be decided by the UK government in power at the time.

Is the leave campaign now prepared to tell us how much more we will have to pay, how much immigration will be from the EU, what laws the EU will  be changing over the next ten years?

It will be the conservatives since they have another 4 years to go.

[jakswan]

It will be the conservatives since they have another 4 years to go.

We'll won't be rejoining the EU for at least 20 years.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

We'll won't be rejoining the EU for at least 20 years.

A thirty year Conservative Reich Jak? Even with Margaret Thatcher they could manage but 18 years the last time although everyone thought Labour had been removed from government for Good then they had a bit more going for them than a mere dozen or so majority and a complete party meltdown over Erp.

And Labour went spectacularly downhill within 2 years during the Blair brown years (which granted was a bit longer than the Conservatrons between may last year and Osborne's tax credit fiasco.

While we are about it can the Leave campaign also tell us who will own the UK's utilities and transportation or will the same nationalised European companies still be in charge?

[ProfessorDavey]

http://www.ukipdaily.com/really-governs-us/

‘Europe’s nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.’ Jean Monnet, Founding Father of the European Union

A superstate was what the USSR was. Centrally controlled against the will of the people.

This really is scraping the bottom of the barrel stuff. So a comment made (allegedly because I've seen it disputed whether he ever made it given that it is supposed to have been made in a private letter) in 1952 by a person who was born nearly 130 years ago and has been dead for 37 years is somehow relevant.

You Brexiters keep claiming that the current EU is unrecognisable from that joined in the 1970s yet you appear to think a personal comment from 64 years ago is somehow relevant, even if it is actually what he said. Just ludicrous.

[Jack Knave]

Your link has the word "ukip" in it. Are we expected to believe it is remotely capable of presenting a truthful view of the EU?

Read it and find out. It explains the functions of the various bodies of the EU and how many meet and work in secret - just like the USSR and Moscow.

[Nearly Sane]

Read it and find out. It explains the functions of the various bodies of the EU and how many meet and work in secret - just like the USSR and Moscow.

Does it explain quite how many of UKIP leaders support a form of TTIP that is more extreme than what is proposed in EU, or do they lie about being a neo liberal front?

[Jack Knave]

I can't believe anyone on here is linking to a UKIP publication.

This site will lead you to an article that states Monnet did not say that.
http://www.jcm.org.uk/blog/2009/03/exclusive-the-danger-of-jean-monnet/

I can't believe that anyone thinks the EU is good considering the evidence of its malfeasance and corruption and lack of democracy!!! Read the article.

[Jack Knave]

The only surprise would be if UKIP failed to deliver this kind of trash.

Well, you've come up to your expectations with this trashy comment!!!

[Brownie]

I can't believe that anyone thinks the EU is good considering the evidence of its malfeasance and corruption and lack of democracy!!! Read the article.

I read it for goodness sake.

[Jack Knave]

Definition of 'knave':

1. A dishonest or unscrupulous man

2. (in cards) a jack.

I post this purely for information.

Your definition of information has reached a new level of paucity. Though we wouldn't expect much from chimps. I post this purely for information.

[Jack Knave]

The USSR was an empire, not a superstate.

They are one and the same thing. If it walks like a duck....

[Jack Knave]

Ukip do not know the difference between the Europe Union, and the Council for Europe.

Oh dear, now I know you're stupid with that comment.

[Jack Knave]

We'll won't be rejoining the EU for at least 20 years.

The EU won't last that long. In 20 years time the landscape will be totally different.

[Jack Knave]

A thirty year Conservative Reich Jak? Even with Margaret Thatcher they could manage but 18 years the last time although everyone thought Labour had been removed from government for Good then they had a bit more going for them than a mere dozen or so majority and a complete party meltdown over Erp.

And Labour went spectacularly downhill within 2 years during the Blair brown years (which granted was a bit longer than the Conservatrons between may last year and Osborne's tax credit fiasco.

While we are about it can the Leave campaign also tell us who will own the UK's utilities and transportation or will the same nationalised European companies still be in charge?

I doubt if the Tories are going to win the next GE. It will probably be another coalition with a fair chunk being made up by UKIP. 

[Jack Knave]

This really is scraping the bottom of the barrel stuff. So a comment made (allegedly because I've seen it disputed whether he ever made it given that it is supposed to have been made in a private letter) in 1952 by a person who was born nearly 130 years ago and has been dead for 37 years is somehow relevant.

You Brexiters keep claiming that the current EU is unrecognisable from that joined in the 1970s yet you appear to think a personal comment from 64 years ago is somehow relevant, even if it is actually what he said. Just ludicrous.

Your posts are becoming more and more bizarre as they diverge further and further from common sense, rational thinking and logic, and totally blind to the reality of the situation.