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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #250 on: May 16, 2016, 12:40:18 PM »
So that's where the hot air is coming from.

Trump could launch thousands of hot balloons with the garbage he spouts, and so could TW, LOL!

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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #251 on: May 16, 2016, 12:40:28 PM »
What does the number of babies have to do with it?

I've seen how upset and mad you Christians get at the idea of terminating one single foetus let alone a living, breathing, human baby.

You worship a god who kills babies.

In the Kingdom of God no babies would be terminated.
You refer to the God of the Jews under a different covenant at a time when people were simply not civil or caring to one another.
You make up such silly statements as above and forget as many others do today that the Kingdom of God is not about the world.
Jesus said:-


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And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.


Abortion and all the other subjects are matters for the world. They are not things of the Kingdom of God.
We simply would not get pregnant unless the baby wanted. We would not be so immature as to not take protection and have an unwanted pregnancy.

The Kingdom of God is about loving God and doing that which is right in the sight of God.
It is for Gods Children and we are not here to judge the world for what they do.
We love others regardless of what they are doing whilst we are living in the world and living as Gods people.

There is no us and them. The world and everything in it, belongs to God. So there is you and me but in my case there is God and I. 

You go one from one failure of argument to another subject and failure of argument.

We, that is you and I, will never think the same unless you come to know the God who made you.
I have a relationship with God which is probably more important than any relationship I have ever had in my life.
It connects me to all that is in my life and every person I have ever known.
Why would  God who loves me so much want me to treat others badly or think badly about them because they do
things I don't?

You live with whatever gets you through. But if you believe bad things about others without foundation do you really have anything that is real and good in your life?

Personally, every morning I have been thanking God for my healing, my family and all we have from him.
I see no reason to condemn or judge others for choosing how they want to live their lives.

In the Church of Gods people then we are responsible to support each other.
We cannot stop you believing what you do or stop you from tarring everyone with the same brush.

In reality, if you could have the same relationship with God, you would know the difference.






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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #252 on: May 16, 2016, 12:43:23 PM »
Some,

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Well, I guess if he's Satan's attempt at making Christianity look utterly stupid and nasty to boot, he's actually doing really, really well.

I hear that Satan's offered him a pay rise for doing such a good job on his cloven-footed behalf...

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Then again, maybe it's all made up and he's just very gullible...        :o  :)

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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #253 on: May 16, 2016, 12:53:30 PM »
...have a look in your room and find something that made itself...

You keep chanting this daft mantra but you won't actually reveal whatever bizarre "thought" process lies behind it.

Come on, I could do with a laugh, how about you outline the "reasoning" that takes this premise and then leads you to your conclusion (presumably goddidit 'cos he's magic)?
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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #254 on: May 16, 2016, 12:58:53 PM »
Before we move on to the next joker, perhaps you would acknowledge that the previous article (that I quoted) was clearly written by somebody dishonest, stupid or both?

I am unsure why TW or yourself introduced the Dr so I have looked up and found:-


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Speaker's Background

B S, University of Tennessee, Institute of Agriculture - 1968
M S, State University of New York, College of Environmental Science - 1972
D D, School of Theology, Columbus, Georgia - 1996
D Litt, Mid-Continent University, Mayfield, Kentucky - 2011
Past Regent of the School of Theology, Columbus, Georgia
Adjunct Professor, School of Theology, Columbus, Georgia
Florida Christian College, Guest Lecturer
10 Years a Teacher of Evolution
1 1/2 Years a Theistic Evolutionist
40 Years a Biblical Scientific Creationist
Ordained Minister
Church Elder
Expert School Board Witness
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Creation Research Society (USA) - Life Member
Creation Research Society (Russia) - Member
Mensa - Life Member
Intertel - Life Member
Phi Kappa Phi - Life Member
Creation Studies Institute
Creation Science Association for Mid-America
Citizens for Science Integrity
Liberty Counsel (Past Chairman of the Board)
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Creation: Our Foundation
Creation: Our Worldview
The World View
The Rock Newspaper
American Mensa Bulletin
The Forerunner
The Creationist
Predvestnik (Ukraine and Russia)
Today Magazine (South Africa)
Christian News (Christians for Truth-South Africa)
JOY! Magazine (South Africa)
The Christian Observer
- See more at: https://www.creationworldview.org/about-us/#sthash.MONPqe9l.dpuf

This is a Professional man of science and a doctor too. Good qualifications and a life time member of Mensa.
So guys having dissed this man maybe anyone who joined in will now give their university qualifications including life time member of mensa details and tell us why they think they know better than him to be able  ridicule him?

ETA!!!!!


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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #255 on: May 16, 2016, 01:02:36 PM »
Toe you know I am right have a look in your room and find something that made itself. My TRUMP position.A stronghold that cannot be broken.

 ~TW~
ps I will look in later.
Can't see anything that made itself in my room. Do you know of anything that made itself, anywhere?
Do you know of anyone on this forum who has claimed that anything made itself? Please give references otherwise shut up.

Ps, you are a dunderhied.  :)
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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #256 on: May 16, 2016, 01:05:16 PM »
Some,

I hear that Satan's offered him a pay rise for doing such a good job on his cloven-footed behalf...

Aw, say it ain't so my friend, say it ain't so!

Satan does not need to make anything look nasty.
Anyone who is not part of the Kingdom already a member of his.
Think about that... your sin keeps you with him. He is unlike you because he knows God exists.
The temptation of Christ shows even knows the OT scripture. But he cannot make someone who is known to the LORD God
fall through tempting them to sin.
Christ has made secure for all time the believer who believes he is the Son of God.
But the way you think shows that you mistake the simple facts. Satan does not have to make you do anything to keep you.
You do it for yourself by your own rejection of Christ and the truth about Gods word.

See how wrong your own thinking really is?
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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #257 on: May 16, 2016, 01:07:27 PM »
Satan does not need to make anything look nasty.
Anyone who is not part of the Kingdom already a member of his.
Think about that... your sin keeps you with him. He is unlike you because he knows God exists.
The temptation of Christ shows even knows the OT scripture. But he cannot make someone who is known to the LORD God
fall through tempting them to sin.
Christ has made secure for all time the believer who believes he is the Son of God.
But the way you think shows that you mistake the simple facts. Satan does not have to make you do anything to keep you.
You do it for yourself by your own rejection of Christ and the truth about Gods word.

See how wrong your own thinking really is?
Have you any idea how closed your thinking is?
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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #258 on: May 16, 2016, 01:13:36 PM »
This is a Professional man of science and a doctor too.

No Sassy, he isn't a "man of science" (professional or otherwise). His degree is in agriculture and his "doctorate" (in theology) is from a non-accredited collage.

He also makes absurd arguments and can't do his sums right, as I pointed out in #229.
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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #259 on: May 16, 2016, 01:34:21 PM »
No Sassy, he isn't a "man of science" (professional or otherwise). His degree in agriculture and his "doctorate" (in theology) is from a non-accredited collage.

He also makes absurd arguments and can't do his sums right, as I pointed out in #229.

Spot on!

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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #260 on: May 16, 2016, 02:00:39 PM »
Can't see anything that made itself in my room. Do you know of anything that made itself, anywhere?
Do you know of anyone on this forum who has claimed that anything made itself? Please give references otherwise shut up.

Ps, you are a dunderhied.  :)
Learn to spell toe I think you were trying to write dunder-head.Now I am going to take a break from here. Sassy I do wish you well dear. I will look back but you do need to all sharpen up a bit,for your own sakes.

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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #261 on: May 16, 2016, 02:09:49 PM »
Now I am going to take a break from here.

Running away from backing up this daft "made itself" crap, then...
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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #262 on: May 16, 2016, 04:21:30 PM »
Learn to spell toe I think you were trying to write dunder-head.
Nope, it is as it should be,
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dunderheid

maybe you need to learn to spell?  ::)

Now I am going to take a break from here.

Well that's both a good and a bad thing.

Good in that the IQ average of the forum will increase somewhat.
Bad in that the sheer stupid comment level will decrease. (unless Sassy will increase her output to make up for your absence?)

Have fun with your sandwich board outings in the meanwhile!

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..is that you on the right?
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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #263 on: May 16, 2016, 04:24:59 PM »
I can say that we are now in the 1000 years of Christ reign

Which year are we in, within that 1000 years?
Can you say or are you not smart enough to figure it out?
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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #264 on: May 16, 2016, 08:53:30 PM »
Has anyone here actually MET Satan ???

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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #265 on: May 17, 2016, 08:13:39 AM »
Has anyone here actually MET Satan ???

Or god?

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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #266 on: May 17, 2016, 08:51:27 AM »
No Sassy, he isn't a "man of science" (professional or otherwise). His degree is in agriculture and his "doctorate" (in theology) is from a non-accredited collage.

He also makes absurd arguments and can't do his sums right, as I pointed out in #229.

AS you have never sat and listened to any of his lectures... only an idiot would dismiss him.

You do not have his qualifications or experience and education in the field as he has.

In 229 you pointed NOTHING out about his sums that actually proved any point.
Had you listened to his lectures and had his knowledge you might have learned something.

Now stop making comments you cannot and are not educated enough to justify. You are simply not in his league and have never heard him speak. You would probably skulk off into the corner because of your ignorance had you ever opened your eyes and mind long enough to listen to what he has to say. Try to educate yourself on what he teaches before dismissing him on the basis of your own ignorance and putting fingers in ears and closing your eyes because it does not suit you to listen and learn.

Your ignorance or opinion is unsustainable in the lack of your knowledge on what he actually teaches.
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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #267 on: May 17, 2016, 08:56:04 AM »
No Sassy, he isn't a "man of science" (professional or otherwise). His degree is in agriculture and his "doctorate" (in theology) is from a non-accredited collage.

He also makes absurd arguments and can't do his sums right, as I pointed out in #229.

So collages are giving out doctorates... must leave the college feeling rather redundant....
A mere picture arrangement of it's former self...

 ::) ;D
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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #268 on: May 17, 2016, 09:02:50 AM »
AS you have never sat and listened to any of his lectures... only an idiot would dismiss him.

You do not have his qualifications or experience and education in the field as he has.

In 229 you pointed NOTHING out about his sums that actually proved any point.
Had you listened to his lectures and had his knowledge you might have learned something.

Now stop making comments you cannot and are not educated enough to justify. You are simply not in his league and have never heard him speak. You would probably skulk off into the corner because of your ignorance had you ever opened your eyes and mind long enough to listen to what he has to say. Try to educate yourself on what he teaches before dismissing him on the basis of your own ignorance and putting fingers in ears and closing your eyes because it does not suit you to listen and learn.

Your ignorance or opinion is unsustainable in the lack of your knowledge on what he actually teaches.

Sassy

Reading through your last 20 posts a very consistent pattern emerges.  Everyone other than TW are ignorant liars - and even TW isn't the right type of Christian.

Have you ever even once considered that perhaps it isn't that everyone other than you are wrong, but that it's you who needs to reassess your beliefs.

Don't bother replying to this, I know the answer.

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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #269 on: May 17, 2016, 09:03:54 AM »
So collages are giving out doctorates... must leave the college feeling rather redundant....
A mere picture arrangement of it's former self...

 ::) ;D

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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #270 on: May 17, 2016, 09:12:04 AM »
You do not have his qualifications or experience and education in the field as he has.

No, you are right (for once), I don't have a degree in agriculture nor a dodgy doctorate in theology.

However, neither are relevant to the absurd and error-ridden passage I was criticising.

In 229 you pointed NOTHING out about his sums that actually proved any point.

In that case, you will be able to point out, in detail, my mistakes and how "Dr" McMurtry's calculations and conclusions could be, in any way, justified.

I'll not hold my breath...
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« Reply #271 on: May 17, 2016, 10:31:58 AM »
Sassy

Reading through your last 20 posts a very consistent pattern emerges.  Everyone other than TW are ignorant liars - and even TW isn't the right type of Christian.

Have you ever even once considered that perhaps it isn't that everyone other than you are wrong, but that it's you who needs to reassess your beliefs.

Don't bother replying to this, I know the answer.

Obviously you don't even tell the truth in your summary. I have shown out of the last 22 posts that 5 show no truth in calling anyone a liar which proves immediately that you never got what you stated from reading my last 20 posts.
What it really shows is you being less than truthful.

Printed the posts and proved what you said to be false.
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No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.


The last 22 posts show that you did not find in 20 posts me calling them liars.

I have proved what you said false. So why state something NOT TRUE.

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AS you have never sat and listened to any of his lectures... only an idiot would dismiss him.

You do not have his qualifications or experience and education in the field as he has.

In 229 you pointed NOTHING out about his sums that actually proved any point.
Had you listened to his lectures and had his knowledge you might have learned something.

Now stop making comments you cannot and are not educated enough to justify. You are simply not in his league and have never heard him speak. You would probably skulk off into the corner because of your ignorance had you ever opened your eyes and mind long enough to listen to what he has to say. Try to educate yourself on what he teaches before dismissing him on the basis of your own ignorance and putting fingers in ears and closing your eyes because it does not suit you to listen and learn.

Your ignorance or opinion is unsustainable in the lack of your knowledge on what he actually teaches.
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No mention of calling anyone a liar in that last of the 20 posts...

I guess if you have to resort to false accusations you really are clutching at straws...

Here are the last 22. Two after my post above:-

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28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

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Christian Topic / Re: Who is a prophet?
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Quote from: Some Kind of Stranger on May 16, 2016, 01:13:36 PM
No Sassy, he isn't a "man of science" (professional or otherwise). His degree is in agriculture and his "doctorate" (in theology) is from a non-accredited collage.

He also makes absurd arguments and can't do his sums right, as I pointed out in #229.

So collages are giving out doctorates... must leave the college feeling rather redundant....
A mere picture arrangement of it's former self...

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Christian Topic / Re: Who is a prophet?
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Quote from: Some Kind of Stranger on May 16, 2016, 01:13:36 PM
No Sassy, he isn't a "man of science" (professional or otherwise). His degree is in agriculture and his "doctorate" (in theology) is from a non-accredited collage.

He also makes absurd arguments and can't do his sums right, as I pointed out in #229.

AS you have never sat and listened to any of his lectures... only an idiot would dismiss him.

You do not have his qualifications or experience and education in the field as he has.

In 229 you pointed NOTHING out about his sums that actually proved any point.
Had you listened to his lectures and had his knowledge you might have learned something.

Now stop making comments you cannot and are not educated enough to justify. You are simply not in his league and have never heard him speak. You would probably skulk off into the corner because of your ignorance had you ever opened your eyes and mind long enough to listen to what he has to say. Try to educate yourself on what he teaches before dismissing him on the basis of your own ignorance and putting fingers in ears and closing your eyes because it does not suit you to listen and learn.

Your ignorance or opinion is unsustainable in the lack of your knowledge on what he actually teaches.
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Never called anyone a liar there.

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Christian Topic / Re: Jesus is the Son of God...
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Its a genuine question. I didn't express a view. What was the purpose of the post?

In that case remove your posts from the thread they are not relevant to it.
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Christian Topic / Re: Jesus is the Son of God...
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Quote from: Thrud the Barbarian on May 16, 2016, 05:02:54 PM
Now this is exactly what the gospel writers did, scoured the Septuagint looking for any verses to plunder as "as it says in the scripture".

This is NOT a messianic passage, but someone assuring his nation, his race that their god has not forgotten them.

Always makes me laugh when evil genitals try to shoehorn these sort of passages up Jesus' passage!!

However you phrase your reply it won't change the fact that the writings are the PROMISE of a new Covenant.
God is not a liar and I have never seen such a reply which denies the passage which clearly confirms a new covenant.
As the Jews knew the Messiah would bring Gods final truth we see that covenant clearly taught by Christ.
You can wriggle all you want but the new covenant came in through Christ and the Messiah. What proves it clearly is that Gods people always have had a covenant with him. Abraham having the first covenant.


 
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Nice little story, but that is all it is. Written by some anonymous blokes decades after "Jesus'" execution by the Romans.

The proof of the passage is clearly in doing what they did upon hearing about Christ.
So again your answer is a little bit like bad eggs.
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Again, a lovely little story. Written by someone who had never met Jesus, but had heard enough about him to believe he could give more flesh to the character than was being peddled at the time.

It has been determined that John was written by a highly educated Greek aristocrat in the late 1st century. ( 90-120 C.E.   http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/john.html ) at the very least some 60 years after the execution of "Jesus". So not really an "eyewitness" account now is it?

Once again you need to read the bible and realise that believers now as in Jeremiah 31:31-34 do not any longer rely on a written word or covenant. They rely on the truth of that covenant.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Sin  blocked the way for man to know God. Christ removed that veil. As the Prophets and Christ before them, the believers now are taught by God himself by the presence of Gods Spirit within them.
So not like the old covenant by the obeying of the words but by the change within being taught by the giver of the words to men the Holy Spirit.

Christ told us... " My words are Spirit and they are life."  It was the anointing of the Spirit, even with the disciples in acts 2 that made them the children of God and able to perform all the miracles they did.

29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.

John 16:13... You can really see the reality in the bible by the actual truths that happen within the pages.

Belief in Christ and the receiving of the Holy Spirit are what make the children of God part of the Covenant of Christ.
The reason Christ tells us if we obey his words we will KNOW (experience) the truth and it will set us free.

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Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

Spirit and Truth are the main vein of truth throughout the bible. OT and NT....
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Christian Topic / Re: Jesus is the Son of God...
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Quote from: Maeght on May 13, 2016, 08:13:01 AM
Good morning Sassy,

I have a genuine question as to your purpose for posting that. It mostly seems like a genuine expression of your beliefs posted on a Christian topic section which is all fine but amongst it you make a comment about atheists which is bound to provoke comments back and set off another thread where people snipe at each other and get sarcsatic. It will be pointed out that this is 'just your beliefs' and there won't be any real discussion so I just wondered what the purpose of the post was.

Stirring the pot again. Isn't that what the genuine not question about?

Your view is incorrect also prejudicial and without foundation.  Seems you atheist cannot take your own credit and responsibility for stirring.
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Quote from: ippy on May 11, 2016, 10:56:54 AM
Sass do you ever think to yourself something like; those blasted non-believers have actually got something, but sod em, fingers in the ears close the eyes la la la la la la la la?

I say the above because I find it difficult to believe that anyone can so readly and almost willingly defy reason and logic on such a large scale, you don't even seem to be able to understand when Blue reminds you about your circular argument, you have never shown in any way that you can even understand exactly what it is Blue is saying.

Surly you're not that thick Sass?

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You defy logic everyday with your astounding ignorance in the face of creation itself.
You have no logical reason in the face of science for why you or here exists.

The truth is there is no reason or logic for a person not to believe in God/creator.
Hence your post shows you deceive yourself and have no real educated reason for making such a statement.

I guess I am on the winning side when it comes to logic and what we have around us...
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Christian Topic / Re: Isaiah 52:13-53: whatever..
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Hitler committed suicide, nothing to do with any deity.
Read two posts before yours...
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Christian Topic / Re: Isaiah 52:13-53: whatever..
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Quote from: jjohnjil on May 16, 2016, 01:28:01 PM
You tell us it isn't the doctors and surgeons who cure people of life threatening diseases, it's God.

God made the way for surgery known and possible. In Genesis 2 :21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
God performed the first surgery and gave the idea man could be put to sleep and not feel the pain.
As he created doctors and gave the first idea for healing medicines through the bible. He gets my vote.
Opps forgot he created mans body and the men who operate.

 
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When a paramedic pulls someone out of an accident and gives them heart massage to save their life, it's Goddidit.
God created a heart that could massaged. Mouth to mouth resusitation came from the bible too.

It was these verses that made the person who thought of mouth to mouth resusitation think of the possibility.

34 And he went up, and lay upon the child, and put his mouth upon his mouth, and his eyes upon his eyes, and his hands upon his hands: and stretched himself upon the child; and the flesh of the child waxed warm.

35 Then he returned, and walked in the house to and fro; and went up, and stretched himself upon him: and the child sneezed seven times, and the child opened his eyes.
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But when Hitler ordered 7 million murders, there's no Goddidit involved!  It was all Hitler's fault, only he was responsible for his evil.

Weird!

What you compare murder to saving life?

Grow up and don't make yourself look so stupid.
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Never called anyone a liar there.
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Christian Topic / Re: Isaiah 52:13-53: whatever..
« on: May 16, 2016, 01:28:44 PM »
Quote from: Sebastian Toe on May 16, 2016, 01:19:16 PM
Hitler was executed?

As it says
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Hitler was not just brought down or executed
He shot himself in a bunker.
Why? Because he was utterly defeated with no where to run.
So Hitler not just brought down or executed. He was driven and his plans completely destroyed  till he had to take his own life.

To bring him down or just execute him would have made him a martyr to some. His cause would never have ran full circle and his evil would never have been fully realised. However, it run it's course and it brought about his own destruction and disgrace in failure.

A permanent reminder and warning to anyone who believes they can actually get away with such evil that they cannot.


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Christian Topic / Re: Isaiah 52:13-53: whatever..
« on: May 16, 2016, 01:14:47 PM »
In Psalm 139

13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.

14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.

16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

Every persons days are in a book before they begin.

Hitler was not just brought down or executed so that his beliefs could be continued by someone else.
God not only defeated his armies and his plans he completely destroyed Hitler. Destroyed him in such a way he would never
rise again. It is a message to all who would dominate the world and society with evil and lies.
In the end God has the final say to mans plans.

Hitler was responsible for his own evil.
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Christian Topic / Re: Who is a prophet?
« on: May 16, 2016, 01:05:16 PM »
Quote from: bluehillside on May 16, 2016, 12:43:23 PM
Some,

I hear that Satan's offered him a pay rise for doing such a good job on his cloven-footed behalf...

Aw, say it ain't so my friend, say it ain't so!

Satan does not need to make anything look nasty.
Anyone who is not part of the Kingdom already a member of his.
Think about that... your sin keeps you with him. He is unlike you because he knows God exists.
The temptation of Christ shows even knows the OT scripture. But he cannot make someone who is known to the LORD God
fall through tempting them to sin.
Christ has made secure for all time the believer who believes he is the Son of God.
But the way you think shows that you mistake the simple facts. Satan does not have to make you do anything to keep you.
You do it for yourself by your own rejection of Christ and the truth about Gods word.

See how wrong your own thinking really is?
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Christian Topic / Re: Who is a prophet?
« on: May 16, 2016, 12:58:53 PM »
Quote from: Some Kind of Stranger on May 16, 2016, 08:39:31 AM
Before we move on to the next joker, perhaps you would acknowledge that the previous article (that I quoted) was clearly written by somebody dishonest, stupid or both?

I am unsure why TW or yourself introduced the Dr so I have looked up and found:-


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Speaker's Background

B S, University of Tennessee, Institute of Agriculture - 1968
M S, State University of New York, College of Environmental Science - 1972
D D, School of Theology, Columbus, Georgia - 1996
D Litt, Mid-Continent University, Mayfield, Kentucky - 2011
Past Regent of the School of Theology, Columbus, Georgia
Adjunct Professor, School of Theology, Columbus, Georgia
Florida Christian College, Guest Lecturer
10 Years a Teacher of Evolution
1 1/2 Years a Theistic Evolutionist
40 Years a Biblical Scientific Creationist
Ordained Minister
Church Elder
Expert School Board Witness
Memberships

Creation Research Society (USA) - Life Member
Creation Research Society (Russia) - Member
Mensa - Life Member
Intertel - Life Member
Phi Kappa Phi - Life Member
Creation Studies Institute
Creation Science Association for Mid-America
Citizens for Science Integrity
Liberty Counsel (Past Chairman of the Board)
Publications

Creation: Our Foundation
Creation: Our Worldview
The World View
The Rock Newspaper
American Mensa Bulletin
The Forerunner
The Creationist
Predvestnik (Ukraine and Russia)
Today Magazine (South Africa)
Christian News (Christians for Truth-South Africa)
JOY! Magazine (South Africa)
The Christian Observer
- See more at: https://www.creationworldview.org/about-us/#sthash.MONPqe9l.dpuf

This is a Professional man of science and a doctor too. Good qualifications and a life time member of Mensa.
So guys having dissed this man maybe anyone who joined in will now give their university qualifications including life time member of mensa details and tell us why they think they know better than him to be able  ridicule him?

ETA!!!!!


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Christian Topic / Re: Who is a prophet?
« on: May 16, 2016, 12:40:28 PM »
Quote from: Khatru on May 14, 2016, 11:10:06 AM
What does the number of babies have to do with it?

I've seen how upset and mad you Christians get at the idea of terminating one single foetus let alone a living, breathing, human baby.

You worship a god who kills babies.

In the Kingdom of God no babies would be terminated.
You refer to the God of the Jews under a different covenant at a time when people were simply not civil or caring to one another.
You make up such silly statements as above and forget as many others do today that the Kingdom of God is not about the world.
Jesus said:-


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And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

Abortion and all the other subjects are matters for the world. They are not things of the Kingdom of God.
We simply would not get pregnant unless the baby wanted. We would not be so immature as to not take protection and have an unwanted pregnancy.

The Kingdom of God is about loving God and doing that which is right in the sight of God.
It is for Gods Children and we are not here to judge the world for what they do.
We love others regardless of what they are doing whilst we are living in the world and living as Gods people.

There is no us and them. The world and everything in it, belongs to God. So there is you and me but in my case there is God and I. 

You go one from one failure of argument to another subject and failure of argument.

We, that is you and I, will never think the same unless you come to know the God who made you.
I have a relationship with God which is probably more important than any relationship I have ever had in my life.
It connects me to all that is in my life and every person I have ever known.
Why would  God who loves me so much want me to treat others badly or think badly about them because they do
things I don't?

You live with whatever gets you through. But if you believe bad things about others without foundation do you really have anything that is real and good in your life?

Personally, every morning I have been thanking God for my healing, my family and all we have from him.
I see no reason to condemn or judge others for choosing how they want to live their lives.

In the Church of Gods people then we are responsible to support each other.
We cannot stop you believing what you do or stop you from tarring everyone with the same brush.

In reality, if you could have the same relationship with God, you would know the difference.






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Literature, Music, Art & Entertainment / Re: Music was my first love...
« on: May 16, 2016, 07:59:51 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkI-B2JWSZI

Somewhere out there...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN4AGVq1XG0
Jesu joy of mans desiring. Bach.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6XUFbkTQNM

Ode to joy. Beethoven
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Literature, Music, Art & Entertainment / Re: Music was my first love...
« on: May 16, 2016, 07:26:02 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP5TiEGSRog

Dirty dancing mix.
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Christian Topic / Re: What/Who is a Christian
« on: May 15, 2016, 11:44:53 AM »
I think TW, likes to go beyond the teachings of Christ at times. Making himself judge and juror.

We see Christ tell us that he is the way, the truth and the life.
In Acts 10:35-45 we see Peter preach the good news about Jesus Christ and those who believe receive the Holy Spirit.
The resurrection spoken about by TW applies to those who confess Christ and die rather than worship the Beast.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

When Peter spoke of Christ being the truth and the life, he never mentioned any resurrection but that of Christ.
He like the Disciples knew that Christ sent the Holy Spirit to teach us and lead us into all truth. Even tell us of the things to come.

John 4:22-24 tells us true worshippers are born of the Spirit and Truth.
Believing the truth about Jesus Christ causes believers to be baptised in the Holy Spirit.
God putting his truth within mankind in his last covenant of Jeremiah 31:31-34.


A believer cannot tell another if they are saved or not. The wheat and tares grow together till Christ comes.
We believe Jesus is the Son of God and we are saved through what he did. No man has the right to pronounce Judgment over his fellow man. Because anyone who confesses Christ is Lord is cannot say this unless by the power of the Holy Ghost.



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Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

I believe sometimes people get ahead of themselves and use methods and beliefs not preached to judge others.
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Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:

How can Christ not confess anyone whom confesses him to be the Son of God?

Truth is God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth on him should not perish but have eternal life.

It is sad that people chop and change to make what they want to believe fit in without proper reverance for the words spoken by Gods Son, which incidentally  came from God.

God is love he is a God of truth.



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Science and Technology / Re: The Moon Landings: fact vs fiction.
« on: May 15, 2016, 11:20:19 AM »
If using the same faked sites then they can show what they want...

Why did the real footage and most of the photographs and of course the moon rock disappear in the 1980's.

We know that no COUNTRY who had all that important documentation would lose it... Would they?
The USA government cannot keep their most precious information safe...

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Science and Technology / Re: The Moon Landings: fact vs fiction.
« on: May 15, 2016, 10:31:18 AM »
Watch this:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lltT1wPZDkc


The maker of the film gagged why if nothing to hide.
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Science and Technology / Re: The Moon Landings: fact vs fiction.
« on: May 15, 2016, 10:11:29 AM »
Quote from: ProfessorDavey on March 30, 2016, 12:21:23 PM
Why don't you try to learn something rather than spout conspiracy theorist drivel.

You might want to start here:

http://www.braeunig.us/apollo/VABraddose.htm

In this article the author carefully assesses theoretical radiation levels (which are likely to be of little consequence during the rapid transit through the Van Allen belt during a lunar mission, within the command module with its extensive shielding. He also helpfully gives the actual readings for all the Apollo missions - guess what - they actually measured it for the astronauts.

He also debunks the notion that Van Allen himself claimed a lunar mission would be lethal - he didn't. He suggested the radiation received by satellites that spent two years continually bombarded by the radiation and without shielding would be lethal. That isn't the same thing whatsoever.

The first lunar model and suits had no protecting against the Van Allen belt.
The truth is that it would NOT KILL INSTANTLY but the overall affect means they would die some time after returning.
The problem is that there are many physicist today who believe that man never went to the moon and all equally qualified as those at Nasa.

Again we have to decided on evidence as a whole. How did the moon rocks come to have numbers on them?

How did Neil Armstrongs boots leave a different footprint to the boot he actually wore?

Today, I would have no problem believing they landed on the moon. But in 1969 I do not believe they could have done.
Nor do I believe they had the protection necessary to do it safely.

It was in Nixon's presidency and we all know what a liar and cheat he turned out to be.

What is clear they somehow lost precious footage and pictures including the moon rock in the 80's. Who puts material like that in a place it can be wiped or stolen?
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Science and Technology / Re: The Moon Landings: fact vs fiction.
« on: May 15, 2016, 10:00:57 AM »
Quote from: Gordon on March 30, 2016, 12:12:55 PM
References please.

Oh Please is that the reaction of a truly open mind.

If one thing the atheist are good at, it is claiming an open mind. If you have never read the works of a physicist who claimed
the moon landing to be fake then you have never really studied the evidence or writing about it.
So get your own references as open minded people like myself already did.

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My Husband Directed The Fake Moon Landing Says Stanley Kubrick's Widow.

Without the scientist there are obvious proofs.

Was she a liar?  Stanley Kubrick directed from his home and he later borrowed stuff from the USA to use in a film he made.
An honest man whose life was shattered by the secret.
Who is telling the truth?

Why is the boot Neil Armstrong wore different tread to picture of the boot picture taken on the moon?

The suits weren't even the same. The one he was pictured in was not the same as the one on show which was suppose to be his. Good film makers need continuity.

DiD YOU know they lost the original footage and the moon rock they bought back in the 80's and only have the bad footage shown on the night all grainy.

If reading with an open mind you would not need me to tell you the name of the scientist.
You would know them already.
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General Discussion / Re: Should women be forced to wear high heels at work?
« on: May 14, 2016, 09:56:00 AM »
Quote from: Rose on May 12, 2016, 08:09:24 AM
If you didn't like them you could make it stilettos and stamp hard.  ;)

 ;D

Do blokes really say that to women?

I'm not sure a bloke would survive if I walked up his back in a pair of high heels. He'd never walk again, probably.

He'd get laughed at by his mates as they carried him off, for being so daft  :o

I guess some men think some women like that type of thing being said to them.
I personally would find it insulting and disrespectful.  It means they are not seeing the person themselves or seeing them as decent and I would probably give him a slap for insulting me.

And Rose, you made me laugh.. you mean you would walk all over his back for his mates to see...
I rather took that to mean you would do it there and then to show how ill thought his comment was... ;D :D ;D :)

Gets my vote girl... you trample him under foot for being so insulting and forward.. LOL.. ;D ;D
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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #272 on: May 17, 2016, 10:35:30 AM »
Sass your posts are ridiculously long. There is a separate topic to discuss moon landings on the science board!

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« Reply #273 on: May 17, 2016, 10:40:23 AM »
I think what Sass means is you should read this                                http://www.ukapologetics.net/12/mcmurtry.htm

  ~TW~

"Evolutionary assumptions"?

Lol!  How did you find this guy?  Did you work your way through 99% of scientists, discarding their views until you found this one guy whose views match your superstitious mumbo jumbo?

The field of evolutionary studies provides the best explanations we have for how we got to where we are now.

There's just no getting away from the fact that science has boxed creationism into a corner. This leaves creationists with very few options open to them save for coming up with increasingly ludicrous flights of fancy.  Why? Because there's no other way they can fit the increasing number of facts into their ju-ju.

I know it's upsetting for you but it's plain to see that you would love to have the same amount of supporting evidence for your ju-ju as evolution has.  Unfortunately for you, that's just not happening.

Want to disprove evolution?  There are millions, probably billions of pieces of data we now have.  You'd better get busy.
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Re: Who is a prophet?
« Reply #274 on: May 17, 2016, 10:45:38 AM »
"Evolutionary assumptions"?

Lol!  How did you find this guy?  Did you work your way through 99% of scientists, discarding their views until you found this one guy whose views match your superstitious mumbo jumbo?

The field of evolutionary studies provides the best explanations we have for how we got to where we are now.

There's just no getting away from the fact that science has boxed creationism into a corner. This leaves creationists with very few options open to them save for coming up with increasingly ludicrous flights of fancy.  Why? Because there's no other way they can fit the increasing number of facts into their ju-ju.

I know it's upsetting for you but it's plain to see that you would love to have the same amount of supporting evidence for your ju-ju as evolution has.  Unfortunately for you, that's just not happening.

Want to disprove evolution?  There are millions, probably billions of pieces of data we now have.  You'd better get busy.

He gave lectures on the television. You must have missed them.
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