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Bring brains back to life
« on: May 05, 2016, 07:39:59 AM »
I hope they have asked the express permission of the people who donated their body parts.

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140704-i-bring-the-dead-back-to-life

My issue with it is, if you could, those people might feel terrible pain and not be able to express an opinion.

Really a dead brain, if there is a chance of being revived, should be treated as the human they were, rather than having the rights of a lump of meat.

There is something about that, that gives me the heebi jeebies.

People may well want to carry on as best they can, but it's the experimental bit that concerns me.  I see the attraction of wanting to carry on when other body parts expire.

I suspect everything we experience in RL could be generated in the brain again given the right stimulus. ( like being able  to feel legs people don't have)

Imagine being  stuck in your worst nightmare with no escape.

Death can be a release for some people, this all sounds a bit like the Frankenstein monster, who in some ways was to be pitied. 

( yes I know that's fiction, but disembodied and dead brains don't have any rights like a person.)

When someone revives one, one imagines they also feel the things they would have in real life.

It would be awful to find yourself floating in a glass jar, suffering again  :(

anyone who donates body parts to science IMO need to give their express permission with this one.

They wouldn't expect to be coming back and feeling again, in some experiment.

I see the attraction, but is it ethical?
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Re: Bring brains back to life
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2016, 07:58:02 AM »
Your post appears to bear no relation to what is talked of in the article.

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Re: Bring brains back to life
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2016, 08:02:46 AM »
Did you link to the right article?
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Re: Bring brains back to life
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2016, 08:08:37 AM »
Your post appears to bear no relation to what is talked of in the article.

Use your imagination NS

http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/643538/Scientists-take-a-step-closer-to-ETERNAL-LIFE-as-they-PRESERVE-and-REVIVE-brain

So far they only appear to have frozen a rabbit brain.

What comes next?

Just because something reads as harmless doesn't mean it is.

It can still raise ethical questions.


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Re: Bring brains back to life
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2016, 08:10:18 AM »
Did you link to the right article?

Yes, it's presented as something positive, but what about the ethical experimentation to get there?

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Re: Bring brains back to life
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2016, 08:10:59 AM »
Use your imagination NS

http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/643538/Scientists-take-a-step-closer-to-ETERNAL-LIFE-as-they-PRESERVE-and-REVIVE-brain

So far they only appear to have frozen a rabbit brain.

What comes next?

Just because something reads as harmless doesn't mean it is.

It can still raise ethical questions.

There is nothing in the article that covers anything in your OP. Imagination here just means 'making shit up'

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Re: Bring brains back to life
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2016, 08:13:20 AM »
Godwin's law.

Hitler managed to make Mein Kampf sound reasonable, but the reality wasn't.

To know how well it works they will have to move on from rabbits.


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Re: Bring brains back to life
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2016, 08:17:37 AM »
Godwin's law.

Hitler managed to make Mein Kampf sound reasonable, but the reality wasn't.

To know how well it works they will have to move on from rabbits.


The two articles are about 2 entirely different things.

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Re: Bring brains back to life
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2016, 08:20:56 AM »
Yes, it's presented as something positive, but what about the ethical experimentation to get there?

The article in the OP is about a procedure to cool the body and replace blood for a few hours to allow surgery for major trauma. It has been tested on animals and now it seems there will be a pilot trail in extreme cases where there is no other hope.

That has nothing to do with freezing brains nor does it have any relevance to people who donate body parts.

Unless you think it's unethical to test this sort of thing on animals, what is the problem?

The second article has nothing at all to do with it.
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