Author Topic: What/Who is a Christian (Read 18895 times)

~TW~ · « **Reply #25 on:** May 13, 2016, 08:21:00 PM »

Quote from: Rhiannon on May 13, 2016, 08:09:33 PM

TW, I get the impression you'd be gutted if any of us converted and you lost the satisfaction of contemplating our eternal torment.

Well miracles do happen and if the Lord chooses you it will happen.At the moment you are dead but who knows he may have you in mind for the future.

~TW~

Shaker · « **Reply #26 on:** May 13, 2016, 08:33:37 PM »

Quote from: ~TW~ on May 13, 2016, 08:21:00 PM

At the moment you are dead

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried (and goodness only knows, you do try).

We are alive. One day we weren't, and on another day we won't be, but for now - we're alive.

Try it. It's a right head rush.

Gordon · « **Reply #27 on:** May 13, 2016, 08:44:37 PM »

Quote from: ~TW~ on May 13, 2016, 08:21:00 PM

At the moment you are dead but who knows he may have you in mind for the future.

Impossible to see how this equates to the 'Good News' that we're often told that Christianity is, TW.

~TW~ · « **Reply #28 on:** May 13, 2016, 10:08:10 PM »

Quote from: Gordon on May 13, 2016, 08:44:37 PM

Impossible to see how this equates to the 'Good News' that we're often told that Christianity is, TW.

Well you do not welcome the good news in your state and condition{spiritually dead} you cannot even begin to see any thing.As one preacher once said what can a dead man do.

~TW~

Gordon · « **Reply #29 on:** May 13, 2016, 10:56:53 PM »

Quote from: ~TW~ on May 13, 2016, 10:08:10 PM

Well you do not welcome the good news in your state and condition{spiritually dead} you cannot even begin to see any thing.As one preacher once said what can a dead man do.

~TW~

Presumably this is the 'Miserable News' approach: I can't see it catching on!

~TW~ · « **Reply #30 on:** May 13, 2016, 11:07:40 PM »

Quote from: Gordon on May 13, 2016, 10:56:53 PM

Presumably this is the 'Miserable News' approach: I can't see it catching on!

Go back to post 1 of this thread check the scriptures.With your Earth 20 billion years old and not a scrap of proof.How many visitors have found this place in 20 billion years. And what have your Gods found the ones you worship people like you nothing.And we have save this ,save that no sign of any new life evolving even after 20 billion years.You need to reassess your act Gordon.
~TW~

Shaker · « **Reply #31 on:** May 13, 2016, 11:11:37 PM »

Quote from: ~TW~ on May 13, 2016, 11:07:40 PM

Go back to post 1 of this thread check the scriptures.With your Earth 20 billion years old

4.5 billion years, actually.

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and not a scrap of proof.

Tons of it. Shall we go through radiometric dating step by step, from the basics up, for absolute beginners?

~TW~ · « **Reply #32 on:** May 13, 2016, 11:15:49 PM »

Quote from: Shaker on May 13, 2016, 11:11:37 PM

4.5 billion years, actually.Tons of it. Shall we go through radiometric dating step by step, from the basics up, for absolute beginners?

No we would need to look at the rotation speed of the earth,its position in relation to the moon on your wonky figures and quite a few other bits.Just take on board the figures dont add up.

~TW~

Shaker · « **Reply #33 on:** May 13, 2016, 11:19:41 PM »

The figures are fine - only you are wonky.

Excuse the spelling.

~TW~ · « **Reply #34 on:** May 13, 2016, 11:24:07 PM »

Quote from: Shaker on May 13, 2016, 11:19:41 PM

The figures are fine - only you are wonky.

Excuse the spelling.

Well start a new thread and produce your evidence.
~TW~

Rhiannon · « **Reply #35 on:** May 13, 2016, 11:30:47 PM »

I don't think he needs to bother.

~TW~ · « **Reply #36 on:** May 13, 2016, 11:33:01 PM »

Quote from: Rhiannon on May 13, 2016, 11:30:47 PM

I don't think he needs to bother.

Very true he would hit the fan very quickly. good night.

~TW~

Walt Zingmatilder · « **Reply #37 on:** May 14, 2016, 07:30:19 AM »

Quote from: Gordon on May 13, 2016, 08:44:37 PM

Impossible to see how this equates to the 'Good News' that we're often told that Christianity is, TW.

Yes, but what is the worse news Gordon? ........that Jesus is knocking on your door............or that by rights your response should be to open the door to him?

floo · « **Reply #38 on:** May 14, 2016, 08:15:02 AM »

Quote from: ~TW~ on May 13, 2016, 05:44:14 PM

A Christian from the bible stand point is someone who has taken part in the first resurrection

Revelation 20; 6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

~TW~

Very meaningful, NOT!

Gordon · « **Reply #39 on:** May 14, 2016, 08:20:01 AM »

Moderator:

I've again moved posts (two, one from ippy and the other from TW) that involve comments about others being mentally ill - no more please!

~TW~ · « **Reply #40 on:** May 14, 2016, 08:35:02 AM »

Quote from: Gordon on May 14, 2016, 08:20:01 AM

Moderator:

I've again moved posts (two, one from ippy and the other from TW) that involve comments about others being mentally ill - no more please!

thank you Gordon My faith in you is restored,also is it possible you could try and keep the threads on course please.For example Stephen Taylor ask a lot of not very clever questions which had nothing to do with the thread,I know he still hurts when he failed to answer a question,and had no interest in the thread but was just trying to catch me out, some of your posters can be very irritating for example floo's last post,nothing whatsoever to do with the thread.And also if people are to give it out they should be happy to receive it back.My back is broad.
~TW~

~TW~ · « **Reply #41 on:** May 14, 2016, 08:51:48 AM »

This thread is called who/what is a Christian you will find my first 6 post provide in general very sound scriptures as to who/what is a Christian.The reason for the thread was some people were asking.

So you now have the answer.should you have any questions relating to the scriptures please ask.

~TW~

Étienne d'Angleterre · « **Reply #42 on:** May 14, 2016, 09:58:59 AM »

Quote from: ~TW~ on May 14, 2016, 08:35:02 AM

For example Stephen Taylor ask a lot of not very clever questions which had nothing to do with the thread,

Well since this is thread is entitled "What/Who is a Christian", then I fail to see why my questions relating to how do we know if someone is a Christian or not are off topic.

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I know he still hurts when he failed to answer a question,

Looks like you will need to seek forgiveness again, or is it that you are not really born again?

Khatru · « **Reply #43 on:** May 14, 2016, 10:50:23 AM »

Quote from: ~TW~ on May 13, 2016, 05:44:14 PM

A Christian from the bible stand point is someone who has taken part in the first resurrection

Revelation 20; 6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

~TW~

Sorry, I've been away doing the usual unbeliever things.

You know the sort of thing....planning to petrol bomb the local Christian Sunday school outing and other acts of evil.

Anyway, clearly you are a true Christian and all those thousands of other denominations, sects and cults are just deluded.

I have proof of this from the attached diagram which depicts where your particular "truth" is.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/53/12/f7/5312f725c07bd5e3330b2d7345af9f34.jpg

jeremyp · « **Reply #44 on:** May 14, 2016, 11:02:22 AM »

Quote from: Stephen Taylor on May 13, 2016, 06:33:28 PM

Which fits exactly with 1 Corinthians. Jesus first and then when he returns again the resurrection of the just will begin.

Jesus wasn't the first person to be resurrected according to the Bible.

bluehillside Retd. · « **Reply #45 on:** May 14, 2016, 11:09:43 AM »

This'll be lost on T(roll)W, but it never tires:

Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, "Don't do it!" He said, "Nobody loves me." I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?"

He said, "Yes." I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?" He said, "A Christian." I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me, too! What franchise?" He said, "Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?" He said, "Northern Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"

He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region." I said, "Me, too!"

Northern Conservative†Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.

Emo Phillips

Khatru · « **Reply #46 on:** May 14, 2016, 11:12:50 AM »

Quote from: ~TW~ on May 13, 2016, 08:21:00 PM

Well miracles do happen and if the Lord chooses you it will happen.At the moment you are dead but who knows he may have you in mind for the future.

~TW~

Let's get this straight.

You're saying that a person is not a Christian until your invisible sky pixie actually chooses someone.

That means everyone is heading for Hell until your god makes his selections.

So all that stuff you were saying earlier about people sending themselves to Hell is BS given that we have no control over who your god chooses to become Christians.

Shaker · « **Reply #47 on:** May 14, 2016, 11:13:16 AM »

Many a true word spoken in jest, bluey.

Khatru · « **Reply #48 on:** May 14, 2016, 11:25:43 AM »

Quote from: jeremyp on May 14, 2016, 11:02:22 AM

Jesus wasn't the first person to be resurrected according to the Bible.

It's great being able to search your past posts...

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Yet back in the day, resurrections were no big deal in the ancient Middle East.

The Bible itself tells us how the following individuals all came back to life after they'd died:

1. Widow of Zarephath's son
2. Shunamite's son
3. Man tossed into Elisha's tomb
4. Widow of Nain's son
5. Jairus' daughter
6. Lazarus
7. Tabitha
8. Eutychus

Not forgetting the hundreds (maybe thousands) who zombie-walked their way into Jerusalem.

Of course it wasn't just the Middle East where people came back from the dead but all over the ancient world. Some of these include:

Quetzalcoatl
Ishtar
Osiris
Adonis
Dionysus
Persephone
Tammuz
Baal
Attis
Lemminkainen
Odin
Ganesha
Krishna

So there you have it, returning from the grave used to be much more commonplace than people think.

Strange how all these resurrections, occurred in a time when humans were deeply superstitious and since the advent of science we haven't reliably recorded any instances of people being resurrected after death. This is so much the case that it's only the deeply superstitious who still cling to the ancient myths.

http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=11609.msg592275#msg592275

~TW~ · « **Reply #49 on:** May 14, 2016, 11:28:26 AM »

Nothing to do with this thread or me.Have you posted the question yet on the Isaiah thread.

~TW~

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Author Topic: What/Who is a Christian (Read 18895 times)

Rhiannon

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