The Moon Landings: fact vs fiction.

[Sebastian Toe]

Ostrich... Wrong... it a well documented fact.

Then show the documents which back up this fact if you can.

[Sebastian Toe]

When the scientist who are top in their field now tell you it was not possible for them to have gone to moon and landed on it, walked on it, then you ignore them.

Do you think that they are correct?

[Brownie]

I am not going to speak for young Sass, however they might be right Sebastian. 

[Sebastian Toe]

There are no elementary mistakes... Because the proof has been shown by the professional and expert scientist who at one time believed as you do that the moon landings took place. How the experts in physics and stuff have proved that had they gone to the moon when they said. They would have been bombarded with deadly rays of radiation from the atmosphere. But the truth is selective. You have no reason to believe what you were told because there isn't evidence just the word of scientist. When the scientist who are top in their field now tell you it was not possible for them to have gone to moon and landed on it, walked on it, then you ignore them.
Truth is, if they are right then nearly everything about time and space comes under question.

So who is right?
The scientists who say that men did go to the moon or the scientists who say that they didn't?

Do you know?

[Maeght]

I am not going to speak for young Sass, however they might be right Sebastian.

There is a great deal of evidence that man went to the moon and most, if not all, of the evidence which suggestes we didn't has been debunked - so on balance it is unlikely they are right. Not impossible but unlikely.

[Sebastian Toe]

I am not going to speak for young Sass, however they might be right Sebastian.

I would need convincing evidence and I haven't seen any yet, have you?

[Shaker]

There is a great deal of evidence that man went to the moon and most, if not all, of the evidence which suggestes we didn't has been debunked

Hope asserts otherwise, although curiously, despite my asking him, he hasn't presented any of this alleged evidence or the names of those who claim to have it.

[Brownie]

I would need convincing evidence and I haven't seen any yet, have you?

Nope.  Neither am I convinced beyond reasonable doubt that the moon landings did take place.   Why do people care so much either way???  Does it impact on our lives?

[Maeght]

Nope.  Neither am I convinced beyond reasonable doubt that the moon landings did take place.   Why do people care so much either way???  Does it impact on our lives?

People are interested in lots of things which don't impact directly on their life.

Anything in particular which makes you unconvinced beyond reasonable doubt about the moon landings?

[Brownie]

I am neither convinced nor unconvinced.   It would be nice to be convinced, more interesting I think.

[Maeght]

Have you seen the images from Nasa’s Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter in 2011 showing the tracks on the moon surface from the astronuats footmarks leading from the landing site of Apollo 17 and the tyre tracks of the Lunar Rover? You can also see the debris left on the moon from that mission. Could have been faked of course ...

[Brownie]

Yes I have seen the images.   I remember watching the moon landing on TV when it supposedly happened too.

[Sebastian Toe]

I am neither convinced nor unconvinced.   It would be nice to be convinced, more interesting I think.

What type of evidence would convince you?

[Maeght]

Yes I have seen the images.   I remember watching the moon landing on TV when it supposedly happened too.

So what do you find unconvincing about the images, out of interest?

[Brownie]

To have physically witnessed it.

[Sebastian Toe]

To have physically witnessed it.

Is that true for everything?

[torridon]

it seems bizarre to doubt such an event(s); it's not something on a scale that hoaxers could pull off, the expenditure was vast, manpower involved huge, and all done in full public view of the entire world on live TV. It would probably be easier to go to the Moon than repeatedly stage a hoax on such a vast scale and get away with it.  I think doubters need to look inwards, because their doubts should be telling them something disturbing about themselves.

[Stranger]

Those that doubt the moon landings are actually suggesting something far, far more incredible: that the US government was competent enough to fake it, during the cold war, and then keep it secret, despite the number of people that would have to be involved, in all the time since - that really is unbelievable!

See also:-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35411684
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0147905

[wigginhall]

Is that true for everything?

Creationists used to say this, didn't they?   Did you actually see T. Rex munching on a smaller creature?  To which I suppose one reply is, did you actually witness the resurrection?

[Brownie]

Is that true for everything?

No.  It is just one thing that would convince me the moon landing happened - and is not going to occur now!  However I think it could have happened, I just concede the possibility that it might not.  It doesn't bother me either way and I wouldn't even have thought of it had it not been mentioned on here.

[Sebastian Toe]

No.  It is just one thing that would convince me the moon landing happened - and is not going to occur now!  However I think it could have happened, I just concede the possibility that it might not.  It doesn't bother me either way and I wouldn't even have thought of it had it not been mentioned on here.

What would convince you now?

[Brownie]

I don't know, I'll let you know if and when it happens.  It seems to matter a lot more to everyone else than to me, I almost wish I hadn't said anything;  it wasn't me who brought the subject up but I didn't have to respond.  Better keep schtum in future  .

[Gordon]

The link below goes through all the various conspiracy theories that the Moon landings were fake - and refutes these fairly convincingly.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Moon_landing_hoax

[jeremyp]

it seems bizarre to doubt such an event(s); it's not something on a scale that hoaxers could pull off, the expenditure was vast, manpower involved huge, and all done in full public view of the entire world on live TV. It would probably be easier to go to the Moon than repeatedly stage a hoax on such a vast scale and get away with it.  I think doubters need to look inwards, because their doubts should be telling them something disturbing about themselves.

I never get tired of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo_nltYf9gw

[Brownie]

That is absolutely brilliant Jeremy.  I will go off to bed in a bit and be chuckling all the way (was feeling a bit morose), also copied it to forward to my son who will appreciate it.  Thanks very much!