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Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« on: May 20, 2016, 08:51:38 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/theirisnogod/

Has anyone else here seen this facebook page ???

VERY interesting but BEWARE all religionists - it MAY cause you to think although we ALL know at least 2 on here that gave THAT up longggg ago !?!??!  ;) ;) ::) ::) ::) ;D

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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2016, 08:58:26 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/theirisnogod/

Has anyone else here seen this facebook page ???

VERY interesting but BEWARE all religionists - it MAY cause you to think although we ALL know at least 2 on here that gave THAT up longggg ago !?!??!  ;) ;) ::) ::) ::) ;D

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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2016, 09:38:35 PM »
No - I always sit like this ?!!??! LOL

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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2016, 09:11:20 PM »
If the creator of this page can't even spell their subtitle correctly, is it worthy of being taken seriously?   ;)
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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2016, 09:17:45 PM »
Oh Dear - Ignoring ALL the site cos of some spelling ?!?!!?
TUT TUT !!!! How hardened a Christian are you ?!!!??

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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2016, 09:43:28 PM »
Oh Dear - Ignoring ALL the site cos of some spelling ?!?!!?
TUT TUT !!!! How hardened a Christian are you ?!!!??
Well, there doesn't seem to be anything on the site that hasn't been said over the last 2000 years, and also repudiated by the same type of people who are quoted on the site.  One doesn't have to be a particularly hard person, whether of faith or not, to realise that it doesn't seem to be saying much.  The spelling mistake is so blatant as to simply reinforce the sense of its going nowhere.
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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2016, 09:49:52 PM »
'that it's going nowhere'

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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2016, 09:55:31 PM »
'that it's going nowhere'
Thanks for that, NS.  I'm aware of the missing apostrophe, but the use of 'of' was intentional, since one can be 'aware of' something, as well as 'aware that'.  One doesn't have to be very bright to be aware of the fact that the 'site and its arguments' (as a singularity) is going nowhere.
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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2016, 11:34:43 PM »
Intentionally wrong then.

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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2016, 11:39:19 PM »
If the creator of this page can't even spell their subtitle correctly, is it worthy of being taken seriously?
Yes, it is, because while I detest bad spelling and poor grammar as much as the next grammar Nazi, an argument if sound on its own terms isn't invalidated by a spelling mistake in the words in which it's couched. So the answer to your question, again, is yes.

Thinking otherwise is yet another fallacy. Or rather, at least one certain fallacy - the red herring or ignoratio elenchi, the main fallacy of relevance - and potentially two, the other being ad hominem.

So it goes.
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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2016, 08:00:09 AM »
Oh Dear - Ignoring ALL the site cos of some spelling ?!?!!?
TUT TUT !!!! How hardened a Christian are you ?!!!??
Chief inspector the Right Reverend Bluehillside has herded his flock away from many of my posts on the pretext of Bad Grammar.......In my humble opinion. Why should we accept it from an antitheist?

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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2016, 09:01:13 AM »
Intentionally wrong then.
Not so, because I wasn't trying to say what I assume you're hoping I was trying to say.
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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2016, 09:07:31 AM »
Yes, it is, because while I detest bad spelling and poor grammar as much as the next grammar Nazi, an argument if sound on its own terms isn't invalidated by a spelling mistake in the words in which it's couched. So the answer to your question, again, is yes.

Thinking otherwise is yet another fallacy. Or rather, at least one certain fallacy - the red herring or ignoratio elenchi, the main fallacy of relevance - and potentially two, the other being ad hominem.

So it goes.
Sorry, Shakes, if a site or argument is as hackneyed and lacking in anything new as this Facebook page is, the fact that the author is unable to even get a basic spelling correct simply highlights the poor quality of that argument or site.  You can throw in your much-beloved fallacy arguments to your heart's content, but none of them make the site's argument any more viable.
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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2016, 09:10:16 AM »
Chief inspector the Right Reverend Bluehillside has herded his flock away from many of my posts on the pretext of Bad Grammar.......In my humble opinion. Why should we accept it from an antitheist?
Vlad, several people herd others away from 'many' of your posts on the grounds of irrelevance or incomprehensibility.
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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2016, 09:18:52 AM »
Sorry, Shakes, if a site or argument is as hackneyed and lacking in anything new as this Facebook page is, the fact that the author is unable to even get a basic spelling correct simply highlights the poor quality of that argument or site.
No, actually, it doesn't. I've explained why.
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You can throw in your much-beloved fallacy arguments to your heart's content
Somebody loves fallacy arguments around here and it certainly isn't me.
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but none of them make the site's argument any more viable.
Or any less. An argument stands or falls on its own merits - coherence and internal consistency, let's say - and isn't rendered invalid by poor spelling.

I've explained this already.

Either you're capable of understanding this principle of basic logic or you are not.

Given your form in this regard my money is on the latter.
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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2016, 10:28:49 AM »
Vlad, several people herd others away from 'many' of your posts on the grounds of irrelevance or incomprehensibility.
All my posts are great.....some are comprehensible......but all of them are great.

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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2016, 10:37:21 AM »
Wish I'd taken a screenshot of the original version of your post before you changed it  >:(
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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2016, 11:02:01 AM »
You can throw in your much-beloved fallacy arguments to your heart's content...

What is it with you and logical fallacies? Do you deny the validity of logic, do you think the fallacies that you continually use are not actually fallacious, or do you think that those fallacies do not apply to your posts?

In the first case, you would be denying reason and hence declaring yourself to be unreasonable. In the second two, you would be able to back up your position using logic, and yet you never even try...
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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2016, 11:05:42 AM »
Wish I'd taken a screenshot of the original version of your post before you changed it  >:(
I knew you'd try, that's why I got in quick.

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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2016, 11:16:08 AM »
All my posts are great.....some are comprehensible......but all of them are great.
No Vlad, the word is spelled G-R-A-T-E.
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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2016, 11:54:22 AM »
No Vlad, the word is spelled G-R-A-T-E.
Response time 11 minutes 28 seconds.......Loving the quickfire wit, Shaker.

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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2016, 02:08:17 PM »
Dear Trip,

That's a very nice site :( we have a saying in Scotland, jist gonnae no dae that, I will add, please ;)

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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2016, 05:34:44 PM »
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That's Ahl Reet then !!!

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Re: Religion Has No Value - Facebook
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2016, 05:46:40 PM »
What is it with you and logical fallacies? Do you deny the validity of logic, do you think the fallacies that you continually use are not actually fallacious, or do you think that those fallacies do not apply to your posts?
I think the problem with some here is they believe that logic is limited to physical, naturalistic concepts and therefore formulaic in a scientific way.  I happen to believe that logic reaches beyond this blinkered understanding.  For instance (and I've used this example before), I've often challenged people to explain 'love', and the most common response is that it has to do with chemical reactions in the brain.  Logically, that doesn't make sense, because chemical reactions don't 'just' happen - there has to be some sort of catalyst or action that initiates the reaction: in other words, the chemical reactions in the brain are symptoms or markers of something else.  To extend the example, love isn't a drippy, soft, fuzzy emotion as many like to believe it is:  it can be soft and tender, but equally it can be hard and painful.

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In the first case, you would be denying reason and hence declaring yourself to be unreasonable. In the second two, you would be able to back up your position using logic, and yet you never even try...
Clearly, you are short on logic yourself, so until you show that you've overcome that shortcoming, I won't be taking any lessons in logic from you.
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« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2016, 05:59:01 PM »
Or any less. An argument stands or falls on its own merits - coherence and internal consistency, let's say - and isn't rendered invalid by poor spelling.
You seem to be suffering from the 'fallacy' of disagreeing with me (and other posters) only then to restate what we have said, but using different vocabulary.

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I've explained this already.

Either you're capable of understanding this principle of basic logic or you are not.

Given your form in this regard my money is on the latter.
The problem, as I've pointed out to SKoS, is that you and others seem very keen to limit the scope of logic to what you feel comfortable with.
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