Author Topic: Christians outnumbered by people with no religion, report by senior lecturer  (Read 30562 times)

Walt Zingmatilder

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You are much mistaken. The poster The poster is merely waving his smugness at you because you are losing (in the UK).
I've always thought Christians were in a minority and that nominals made up the numbers.

Admitting to being religious is obviously no longer an advantage and probably socially and professionallydangerous in parts of secular Britain.

I understand things change when getting into a good church school is important.
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Yeh,you wish, posting this is the kind of sly innuendo beloved of hard arsed antitheists around here. I've yet to check if Owlswing thought he was merely reporting or had some kind of angle related to him being an antichristian.
Since you stated - quite wrongly - that the OP contained an argumentum ad populum surely you must be able to point out where you think it is and where this so-called "innuendo" resides?
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Since you stated - quite wrongly - that the OP contained an argumentum ad populum surely you must be able to point out where you think it is and where this so-called "innuendo" resides?
Did I say that it contained an AAP? I thought I just put AAP.

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Admitting to being religious is obviously no longer an advantage and probably socially and professionallydangerous in parts of secular Britain.

If admitting to being religious is socially and professionally dangerous in a part of Britain, then that part of Britain is not secular by definition.
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Walt Zingmatilder

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Since you stated - quite wrongly - that the OP contained an argumentum ad populum surely you must be able to point out where you think it is and where this so-called "innuendo" resides?
Come of it Shaker its context and intent was to provide atheist wankfodder.

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Did I say that it contained an AAP? I thought I just put AAP.
Yes - appended to Owlswing's OP.
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Come of it Shaker its context and intent was to provide atheist wankfodder.
And how do you claim to know that then, given that you've only just written: "I've yet to check if Owlswing thought he was merely reporting or had some kind of angle related to him being an antichristian"?
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I've always thought Christians were in a minority and that nominals made up the numbers.

Admitting to being religious is obviously no longer an advantage and probably socially and professionallydangerous in parts of secular Britain.

I understand things change when getting into a good church school is important.

The aroma of burning martyr's unattractive, Vlad.

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And how do you claim to know that then, given that you've only just written: "I've yet to check if Owlswing thought he was merely reporting or had some kind of angle related to him being an antichristian"?
I noticed the author of the OP has not returned to answer me or at anytime back up your incredible idea that he is merely reporting.

Jeremy P isn't trying to turd polish this.........Why are you and Steven Taylor?

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I noticed the author of the OP has not returned to answer me or at anytime back up your incredible idea that he is merely reporting.
What's incredible about it given that the OP was a verbatim cut-and-paste of a news article, posted as-is without any comment from Owlswing?

Are you claiming psychic powers now Vlad?
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What's incredible about it given that the OP was a verbatim cut-and-paste of a news article, posted as-is without any comment from Owlswing?

Are you claiming psychic powers now Vlad?
You're an arsehole!

That's cut and paste from Brigit Jones.

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Yeh,you wish, posting this is the kind of sly innuendo beloved of hard arsed antitheists around here. I've yet to check if Owlswing thought he was merely reporting or had some kind of angle related to him being an antichristian.

Maybe he was just reporting some findings.

Maybe he thinks it's great news and is cracking open the champagne.

Maybe he thought it would wind you up.

Maybe he thought you would state immediately that it was an argumentum ad populum and therefore make yourself look like you didn't understand what it means.


It still isn't an argumentum ad populum though.

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Shakes,

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Are you claiming psychic powers now Vlad?

To be fair, he's been claiming that for some time now I think. After all, he asserts that he's had a personal visit from a universe-creating "God" so, unless "He" just strolled up to Trollboy's front door one day, how else but "psychically" could this remarkable event have occurred?
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Maybe Owlswing's had other stuff to do?

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You're an arsehole!

That's cut and paste from Brigit Jones.
Saved for future reference ;)
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What's incredible about it given that the OP was a verbatim cut-and-paste of a news article, posted as-is without any comment from Owlswing?

Are you claiming psychic powers now Vlad?

That's right - I remember Modding it as being too much C&P - so Vlad owes Owl an apology.

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That's right - I remember Modding it as being too much C&P - so Vlad owes Owl an apology.
I certainly don't owe you one.

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He wasn't asking for one.
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Shakes,

To be fair, he's been claiming that for some time now I think. After all, he asserts that he's had a personal visit from a universe-creating "God" so, unless "He" just strolled up to Trollboy's front door one day, how else but "psychically" could this remarkable event have occurred?

Except Psychic Sally and Tony Stockwell need to put 'For Entertainment Purposes Only' outside their shows. Churches can claim what they like and take their punters' money.

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Did I say that it contained an AAP? I thought I just put AAP.

Argument from personal incredulity.

God of the gaps.

Straw man.

Negative proof fallacy.

Tu quoque.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Ad hominem.

False dichotomy.

Texas sharpshooter fallacy.
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Shakes,

To be fair, he's been claiming that for some time now I think. After all, he asserts that he's had a personal visit from a universe-creating "God" so, unless "He" just strolled up to Trollboy's front door one day, how else but "psychically" could this remarkable event have occurred?
Indeed.......and how can they be disproved?

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Argument from personal incredulity.

God of the gaps.

Straw man.

Negative proof fallacy.

Tu quoque.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Ad hominem.

False dichotomy.

Texas sharpshooter fallacy.
You missed out the partridge in a pear tree.

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Indeed.......and how can they be disproved?

As something of a connoisseur of unintended ironies, listing a bunch of fallacies that have nothing to do with the quote I posted first Trollboy style only to have him reply with an actual bang on the money fallacy - the negative proof fallacy so beloved of Hope - is a cracker.
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You missed out the partridge in a pear tree.
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Dear Owlswing,

Yes it is very interesting, for me it ask the question, why?

Complacency within the Church.

Has something replaced religion.

The Church is no longer at the heart of a community.

The various atheist organisations are now making their presence felt.

The Church is outdated.

Pagan religions are on the rise.

Bad press ( deservedly ) over the past decade.

Sunday's are no longer sacred, as in families can find so much more to do on a Sunday morning.

A combination of all the above.

Gonnagle.

I would say "A combination of all the above" with the exception of "Pagan religions are on the rise".

The rise has slowed considerably since the glory days of the 90s and the 00s; mainly  because of the decline in the numbers of teenagers takinng up paganism in order to be able to walk into school and announce "I am a witch!" and watch and wallow in the reactions.

This slow-down has occurred because said teenagers have found that being a witch demands time and effort, ranging, depending upon the coven and the path, from a lot to a very great deal. A Wiccan Coven will require the learning, by heart, all the eight main rituals which, in Wiccan Covens, can last up to three hours each. In addition there will be study of spellwork, herbs, and history and a requirement that the Coven's Book of Shadows (a diary containing the history of the Coven and its activities in minute detail) by hand..

And a real killer of teenage attachment to the craft in a Wiccan Coven is the requirement that all rituals are performed sky-clad, even in two feet of snow or a howling rainstorm!
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