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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #100 on: July 06, 2016, 05:50:49 PM »
Brownie,

Didn't see the programme, but I concur with the sentiment.

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(Pleased to hear about your daughter's exam grades bluehillside, excellent news.)

Thank you. I don't want to be showy-offy (who me?) but actually she did bloody amazingly so we're all a bit knocked sideways by it just now  :)
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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #101 on: July 06, 2016, 06:12:49 PM »
You are not being show-offy, it is quite natural to want to share such good news.  Good for her!
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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #102 on: July 06, 2016, 06:21:56 PM »
Brownie,

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You are not being show-offy, it is quite natural to want to share such good news.  Good for her!

Actually I probably am, but thank you anyway. She was in tears after some of the exams (she did the International Baccalaureate rather than "A" levels) because of how badly she thought they'd gone, but it turns out she scored a mathematically perfect result - hence our being so (pleasantly) surprised.

Anyways, Taweret I reckon. Definitely Taweret. Does anyone know the drill re the appropriate propitiations and rituals? Will I need to slaughter a domestic animal by way of thanks perhaps?
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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #103 on: July 06, 2016, 06:46:38 PM »
Brownie,

Actually I probably am, but thank you anyway. She was in tears after some of the exams (she did the International Baccalaureate rather than "A" levels) because of how badly she thought they'd gone, but it turns out she scored a mathematically perfect result - hence our being so (pleasantly) surprised.

Anyways, Taweret I reckon. Definitely Taweret. Does anyone know the drill re the appropriate propitiations and rituals? Will I need to slaughter a domestic animal by way of thanks perhaps?
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(Ah, I see from wikipedia that Taweret is an Egyptian god!)

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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #104 on: July 06, 2016, 06:54:09 PM »
Brownie,

Actually I probably am, but thank you anyway. She was in tears after some of the exams (she did the International Baccalaureate rather than "A" levels) because of how badly she thought they'd gone, but it turns out she scored a mathematically perfect result - hence our being so (pleasantly) surprised.

Anyways, Taweret I reckon. Definitely Taweret. Does anyone know the drill re the appropriate propitiations and rituals? Will I need to slaughter a domestic animal by way of thanks perhaps?

Happy news indeed! Well done to her.


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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #105 on: July 06, 2016, 07:32:12 PM »
Bluehillside, Taweret is an Egyptian goddess, patron of women, childbirth, fertility.
She also only let her husband out at night.

Best just to be generally thankful for a good outcome for your daughter and give her lots of congrats.
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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #106 on: July 06, 2016, 07:46:46 PM »
Just had some very good news re my daughter's exam grades. Which god should I thank I wonder? The Christian one talks a good story but there's some pretty iffy stuff in His early works in particular, and I'm not feeling it for the Muslim one. Some of the Norse gods are quite funky, ditto the Roman ones. I'm quite drawn to the Egyptian goddess Taweret too - the body of a pregnant woman, the head of a hippopotamus, the tail of a crocodile, and the arms and legs of a lion. Cool eh?

Any help gratefully received please.

Of course, I could always credit my daughter what with staying up 'til midnight working these past two years but hey, gods are so much more thrilling don't you think?

I personally would go with your last option unless your daughter tells you which God, if any, she prayed to. Please pass on my congratulations!
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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #107 on: July 06, 2016, 09:17:34 PM »
Hey Susan and Owls and Brownie,

Thank you all for your kind comments. Yes, I'll allow her to pick her own god/dess to thank I think.

Reminds me of the Chilean miners who were rescued after an unfeasible amount of time from the mineshaft collapse and promptly thanked God for saving them, apparently oblivious to the notion that the same God would presumably have been responsible for getting them in the jam in the first place. Maybe we should name the phenomenon "Hope-ism": "Against the expectations of the doctors Mrs Jenkins got better because God answered some prayers, yet funnily enough the same God was relaxed about her getting the affliction in the first place".

Oh well.
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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #108 on: July 06, 2016, 09:53:43 PM »
Hey Susan and Owls and Brownie,

Thank you all for your kind comments. Yes, I'll allow her to pick her own god/dess to thank I think.

Reminds me of the Chilean miners who were rescued after an unfeasible amount of time from the mineshaft collapse and promptly thanked God for saving them, apparently oblivious to the notion that the same God would presumably have been responsible for getting them in the jam in the first place. Maybe we should name the phenomenon "Hope-ism": "Against the expectations of the doctors Mrs Jenkins got better because God answered some prayers, yet funnily enough the same God was relaxed about her getting the affliction in the first place".

Oh well.

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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #109 on: July 07, 2016, 07:28:27 AM »
Hey Susan and Owls and Brownie,

Thank you all for your kind comments. Yes, I'll allow her to pick her own god/dess to thank I think.

Reminds me of the Chilean miners who were rescued after an unfeasible amount of time from the mineshaft collapse and promptly thanked God for saving them, apparently oblivious to the notion that the same God would presumably have been responsible for getting them in the jam in the first place. Maybe we should name the phenomenon "Hope-ism": "Against the expectations of the doctors Mrs Jenkins got better because God answered some prayers, yet funnily enough the same God was relaxed about her getting the affliction in the first place".

Oh well.

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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #110 on: July 07, 2016, 11:11:13 AM »
How dare you use common sense and logical thought on a Christian forum!

You are taking advantage of crippled opponents. Shame on you!

Hi Len I've just exchanged contracts on my house move and I completely forgot to thank a god of any kind for it all going through so smoothly, do you think it'll all be O K?

I'm all worried now thanks to Blue.

By the way good result Blue, I'm pleased for you.

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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #111 on: July 07, 2016, 03:12:34 PM »
Hi Len I've just exchanged contracts on my house move and I completely forgot to thank a god of any kind for it all going through so smoothly, do you think it'll all be O K?

I'm all worried now thanks to Blue.



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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #112 on: July 07, 2016, 04:48:00 PM »
Brownie,

Actually I probably am, but thank you anyway. She was in tears after some of the exams (she did the International Baccalaureate rather than "A" levels) because of how badly she thought they'd gone, but it turns out she scored a mathematically perfect result - hence our being so (pleasantly) surprised.


Good news indeed, blue. Interesting to hear about the International Bacc. choice. I wonder if those depend so much on multiple-choice answers, as many of our A levels seem to be these days (or am I wrong?).

What proportion of nature or nurture was there to influence her results, do you think?
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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #113 on: July 07, 2016, 04:54:14 PM »
Hi ipster,

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Hi Len I've just exchanged contracts on my house move and I completely forgot to thank a god of any kind for it all going through so smoothly, do you think it'll all be O K?

Is there a patron saint for estate agents maybe?

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I'm all worried now thanks to Blue.

By the way good result Blue, I'm pleased for you.

Sorry about that, and thanks for the kind comment.
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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #114 on: July 07, 2016, 05:05:37 PM »
Hi Dicky,

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Good news indeed, blue. Interesting to hear about the International Bacc. choice. I wonder if those depend so much on multiple-choice answers, as many of our A levels seem to these days (or am I wrong?).

What proportion of nature or nurture was there to influence her results, do you think?

Thank you. Actually, there's no multiple choice at all (at least not in the subjects she took in any case). It's all essays and written answers, including an extended essay written outside the exam hall and a large section on theory of knowledge (TOK) which is a very good thing I think. You have to pick three "higher" subjects and two "lower' ones, but the available choices force you to take a science, maths, English, a foreign language, a humanities etc so you can't narrow down as quickly as you can for "A" levels. It's not for everyone therefore, but the consensus seems to be that you get a better education in the round with IB - I know that quite a few schools are converting to it for that reason, though the unis have been slow to recognise is as much as they should.

Incidentally, of the 150,000 worldwide who took it this year only 146 scored the max 45 points so we're feeling very proud of her right now.

Whose genes? Ask her Mum!   

PS She's looked at the individual marks now for each subject, and thinks one of them should have been higher in % terms even though it was high enough for the max score of seven points. She's just asked me whether she should ask for a re-mark for that one. Good grief!
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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #115 on: July 07, 2016, 05:20:50 PM »
How dare you use common sense and logical thought on a Christian forum!

You are taking advantage of crippled opponents. Shame on you!


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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #116 on: July 07, 2016, 05:25:12 PM »
Hi Len I've just exchanged contracts on my house move and I completely forgot to thank a god of any kind for it all going through so smoothly, do you think it'll all be O K?

I'm all worried now thanks to Blue.

By the way good result Blue, I'm pleased for you.

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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #117 on: July 07, 2016, 05:31:06 PM »
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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #118 on: July 08, 2016, 09:30:18 AM »
I bet these idiots are praying like mad their $100 million will produce results!  :)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/07/noahs-ark-replica-unveiled-in-kentucky-amid-anger-at-scientifica/

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« Reply #119 on: July 08, 2016, 10:36:01 AM »
I bet these idiots are praying like mad their $100 million will produce results!  :)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/07/noahs-ark-replica-unveiled-in-kentucky-amid-anger-at-scientifica/

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« Reply #120 on: July 08, 2016, 11:01:22 AM »
Most won't take this seriously.  Those that do are people who already believe in a literal Noah's Ark and we can't do much about them.  It just looks like a bit of fun, I think the people involved in the project will be disappointed that they can't teach those who aren't already initiated.  What a lot of money!  Not public money though so that doesn't matter.
I wonder if there are sound effects? 
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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #121 on: July 08, 2016, 11:40:03 AM »
Most won't take this seriously.  Those that do are people who already believe in a literal Noah's Ark and we can't do much about them.  It just looks like a bit of fun, I think the people involved in the project will be disappointed that they can't teach those who aren't already initiated.  What a lot of money!  Not public money though so that doesn't matter.
I wonder if there are sound effects?

Not public money?

Yes it was, it was all collected from the public!

From some of the gullible 30plus % of Americans who believe that Genesis is fact!
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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #122 on: July 08, 2016, 11:42:13 AM »
I missed that bit Owlswing.  Idiots.  However I was thinking more of government money, grants etc.
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Re: Answers to prayers?
« Reply #123 on: July 08, 2016, 12:09:11 PM »
Brownie,

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Most won't take this seriously.  Those that do are people who already believe in a literal Noah's Ark and we can't do much about them.  It just looks like a bit of fun, I think the people involved in the project will be disappointed that they can't teach those who aren't already initiated.  What a lot of money!  Not public money though so that doesn't matter.
I wonder if there are sound effects?

I'm not so sanguine about it. Families will go there, school kids will be bussed in etc and the scale and impressiveness of the facility will only help legitimise the lies it's peddling. Picture the poor biology teacher trying to teach the science only to have a pupil put her hand up with a, "But Miss, I know you're wrong because I've been to a museum where they told us the proper facts. They had dinosaurs and everything!"

OK, so it makes Kentucky a laughing stock and maybe it'll encourage investment to go elsewhere but it's still bad news I think.

 
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« Reply #124 on: July 08, 2016, 12:32:29 PM »
Brownie,

I'm not so sanguine about it. Families will go there, school kids will be bussed in etc and the scale and impressiveness of the facility will only help legitimise the lies it's peddling. Picture the poor biology teacher trying to teach the science only to have a pupil put her hand up with a, "But Miss, I know you're wrong because I've been to a museum where they told us the proper facts. They had dinosaurs and everything!"

OK, so it makes Kentucky a laughing stock and maybe it'll encourage investment to go elsewhere but it's still bad news I think.


The Americans seemed more gullible that most of us Brits where religion is concerned!