Being forcibly divorce by a third party?

[Bubbles]

Due to a system of guardianship of women in Saudi Arabia, relatives, including uncles, are able to get a woman divorced on the grounds that they have have married "outside their lineage". Last April, a woman claimed in a video that she was forcibly divorced from her Saudi husband on that basis. Although the Saudi authorities later denied this, saying that incompatibility in lineage is not enough reason to grant a divorce.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-36448328

 

The more I hear about life in Saudi Arabia the less I like it 

[Bubbles]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/11/17/saudi-groom-demands-divorce-bride-veil_n_6171674.html

How awful!

Mind you, I reckon this one knew what she was doing 

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/03/09/camel-love-divorce-saudi-arabia_n_6830032.html

[Brownie]

The more I hear about life in Saudi Arabia the less I like it 

I agree with you Rose, wouldn't fancy it one bit though there was a time when I considered applying for a job there, on contract.  I knew a couple of people who did that and they made quite a lot of money with great tax concessions.  They lived in compounds, must have been quite claustrophobic and boring.  Anyway I was talked out of it which wasn't difficult as it was only a thought, needs must etc, when we were particularly hard up.

A lot of Saudis, whilst loving their country in many ways, aren't all that keen on the way of life there which is why so many spend months out of every year in other countries.  I met loads of them (including some of the royal family, which isn't a big deal as it is a huge extended family), when I worked in town.  The women were always beautifully turned out, well groomed, coiffured and fashionably dressed.  A lot of families had their daughters educated in England with the hope that they would mix socially and eventually marry someone living here, as well as pursuing a career.

I have doubts about the authenticity of the story in your first link but the second one:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/03/09/camel-love-divorce-saudi-arabia_n_6830032.html

...made me laugh!  Camels are lovely, they have such character.

[ippy]

I agree with you Rose, wouldn't fancy it one bit though there was a time when I considered applying for a job there, on contract.  I knew a couple of people who did that and they made quite a lot of money with great tax concessions.  They lived in compounds, must have been quite claustrophobic and boring.  Anyway I was talked out of it which wasn't difficult as it was only a thought, needs must etc, when we were particularly hard up.

A lot of Saudis, whilst loving their country in many ways, aren't all that keen on the way of life there which is why so many spend months out of every year in other countries.  I met loads of them (including some of the royal family, which isn't a big deal as it is a huge extended family), when I worked in town.  The women were always beautifully turned out, well groomed, coiffured and fashionably dressed.  A lot of families had their daughters educated in England with the hope that they would mix socially and eventually marry someone living here, as well as pursuing a career.

I have doubts about the authenticity of the story in your first link but the second one:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/03/09/camel-love-divorce-saudi-arabia_n_6830032.html

...made me laugh!  Camels are lovely, they have such character.

Nothing surprising here Brownie when you remember that country is still living by rules set about 500 years behind the times; I don't think even the fabled Salomon would be able to sort out that lot.

ippy   

[Brownie]

Very weird indeed ipster.  I don't blame any of them for wanting to live elsewhere, at least some of the time, and a better future for their children.  They have so much money they can afford to do that.

[Hope]

Nothing surprising here Brownie when you remember that country is still living by rules set about 500 years behind the times; I don't think even the fabled Salomon would be able to sort out that lot.

I think the problem is, at least in part - that the 'rules set about 500 years behind the times' were 1) probably quite advanced when they were set a 1000+ years ago, 2) are only truly applicable to part of the country's citizens as they are specific to a particular Islamic sect and 3) have fallen foul of the Islamic belief in the sacredness of the word - hence the shortage of 'official' versions of the Qu'ran in any language other than Arabic.

[ippy]

I think the problem is, at least in part - that the 'rules set about 500 years behind the times' were 1) probably quite advanced when they were set a 1000+ years ago, 2) are only truly applicable to part of the country's citizens as they are specific to a particular Islamic sect and 3) have fallen foul of the Islamic belief in the sacredness of the word - hence the shortage of 'official' versions of the Qu'ran in any language other than Arabic.

Error, the word 'advanced' used when referring to religion in any time frame?

ippy

[Brownie]

Oh ippy they definitely were advanced for their time, remember it was a time when practically everyone had a religion so we cannot judge them by 'our times'.   Saudi is definitely behind 'all times' though in most respects, certainly by Western standards.  Culturally as well as religion-wise.  It's a very interesting society from an observer's point of view, quite fascinating, but I doubt any of us would want to live there (except of course for people on contract, living in compounds, and that's only short term).

[ippy]

Oh ippy they definitely were advanced for their time, remember it was a time when practically everyone had a religion so we cannot judge them by 'our times'.   Saudi is definitely behind 'all times' though in most respects, certainly by Western standards.  Culturally as well as religion-wise.  It's a very interesting society from an observer's point of view, quite fascinating, but I doubt any of us would want to live there (except of course for people on contract, living in compounds, and that's only short term).

"they definitely were advanced for their time", oh dear Brownie?

Not a lot of hope for you then.

Have a look into the 'Cargo Cult', it's probably available on Wikki, it's more or less the blueprint for any religious belief, pardon the expression but words belief or bollocks in these cases are interchangeable.

No one has ever found any evidence that would take the belief in god or gods out of the fantasy zone and as you must be aware that's a fact.

ippy

[Dicky Underpants]

A lot of Saudis, whilst loving their country in many ways, aren't all that keen on the way of life there which is why so many spend months out of every year in other countries.  I met loads of them (including some of the royal family, which isn't a big deal as it is a huge extended family), when I worked in town.  The women were always beautifully turned out, well groomed, coiffured and fashionably dressed.  A lot of families had their daughters educated in England with the hope that they would mix socially and eventually marry someone living here, as well as pursuing a career.

Whilst the male members of Saudi royalty regularly visited European capital cities and used their considerable wealth to indulge in debauchery of all kinds, out of sight of Muslim religious censure. Or am I wrong?

[Brownie]

You are right there Dicky. They drink too. A law unto themselves.  I wonder sometimes, where people are defined by an established religion, how much individuals actually believe in it.