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Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: Things that move you
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2016, 04:34:38 PM »
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Re: Things that move you
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2016, 04:38:15 PM »
SteveH,

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Robert Bloch, the horror story writer, was quoted in the blurb on one of his books as saying (quoting from memory) "People think I'm some kind of monster, but I have the heart of a child: I keep it in a jar on my desk".

Did I mention that I have the heart of a lion?

I also have a lifetime ban from London Zoo...
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Re: Things that move you
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2016, 04:42:24 PM »
SteveH,

Did I mention that I have the heart of a lion?
And the breath of a rhino?

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Re: Things that move you
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2016, 04:54:36 PM »
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Re: Things that move you
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2016, 06:53:12 PM »
We were in the garden this afternoon taking tea by our pond when a chime of gold finches descended on us. One landing on the coffee table and looking meaningfully at my cherry bakewell. We held our breath for a good long time and admired one of the best looking birds to be found in an English garden. Beautiful.
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Re: Things that move you
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2016, 06:55:49 PM »
That's very nice.  Yesterday, I spent 10 minutes watching a wood pigeon eating baked beans on the table in a cafe.   It sounds weird, but it was fascinating, watching it shift between fear of us (we were at the same table), and greed I suppose.  Greed won.
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Re: Things that move you
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2016, 07:01:02 PM »
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We were in the garden this afternoon taking tea by our pond when a chime of gold finches descended on us. One landing on the coffee table and looking meaningfully at my cherry bakewell. We held our breath for a good long time and admired one of the best looking birds to be found in an English garden. Beautiful.

Very impressed at your use of “charm” as the collective noun there. Shame they weren’t godwits mind - an omniscience of godwits would have been quite something!
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Re: Things that move you
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2016, 10:09:45 PM »
I don't like music so it didn't move me. I can't think of anything which does as I am not particularly sentimental.
You don't have to be sentimental to be moved by some things in art and life, but you do have to be emotionally healthy.  Sentimentality in literature is represented by, for instance, Patience Strong and Barbara Cartland, in music by the Carpenters, and in visual art by Tetchy Cough's Green Lady.  They are all facile and emotionally manipulative.  Real art is represented by, for instance, Carol Ann Duffy and Elizabeth Gaskell in literature, Beethoven in music, and Michelangelo in visual art.  They can be genuinely moving, not by manipulating the emotions, but often by what they don't say, as much as by what they do - less is more.  Sentimentality is bad, emotional frigidity is also bad, emotional balance is good - and it is only the emotionally balanced who can be genuinely moved by great art.
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Re: Things that move you
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2016, 08:21:17 AM »
I am quite happy as I am, thanks! :D 

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« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2016, 08:53:30 AM »
Won't have that about the Carpenters - listen to their recording of Leon Russell's 'This Masquerade'. Exquisite.
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« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2016, 10:15:30 AM »
And the breath of a rhino?

Oh Vlad... you are  awful, but in a delectable funny way... :)
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« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2016, 10:21:03 AM »
What things really move you?

https://youtu.be/aHJRBpIZm1o

I found that very moving.

Every so often I come across something that brings a lump to my throat.

What moves you?

Depends which way you mean move...

Watching Children/people suffer needlessly brings all the other things which move me to count for nothing. When I see others in need it makes me want to do so much for others like bring the Government ministers to see what poverty they have created.

What moves me is that man has lost his humanity to be able to ignore the suffering by the evil notion they wanted and chose their circumstances.

What moves me is the blatant disregard for those suffering because our Government have brainwashed Britain into believing people live on the streets with their children because they are lazy and don't want to work.

Mans love has grown cold. This moves me... :'(
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« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2016, 11:36:11 AM »
An old black guy sitting on a rocking chair, playing a harmonica and a guitar whilst at the same time interspurseing with some singing, not very adept at singing or playing the instruments but somehow the overall sound of this type of the Blues certainly moves me; the thought of this kind of music moves me even when I'm thinking and writing about it here.

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« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2016, 08:30:13 PM »
Nice  A fellow blues lover.
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Re: Things that move you
« Reply #39 on: July 26, 2016, 08:41:30 PM »
I love The Carpenters and Beethoven. I don't worry about real art. People love to dress their subjectivity with faux raiments of claimed objectivity.
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Re: Things that move you
« Reply #40 on: July 26, 2016, 11:12:47 PM »
I love The Carpenters and Beethoven. I don't worry about real art. People love to dress their subjectivity with faux raiments of claimed objectivity.

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« Reply #41 on: July 26, 2016, 11:16:05 PM »
I love The Carpenters and Beethoven. I don't worry about real art. People love to dress their subjectivity with faux raiments of claimed objectivity.

Couldn't agree more. My music teacher at school stunned the class I was in, who mostly thought he was a weirdo for liking classical music with a liking for the already mentioned Carpenters and Free. Music is either good or it isn't, and even then it is so much down to personal taste that I'm not sure you can ever totally "judge" a piece objectively. For example, I know Mahler was a great composer, I know the reasons why he was considered so, but he leaves me untouched and unmoved. Unlike my (already mentioned in the past) favourite Shostakovich, or indeed The Mamas and the Papas both of which transport me out of the mundane, humdrum aspects of my life into another place - if only for a short while before I have to come back and do the washing up.
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Re: Things that move you
« Reply #42 on: July 27, 2016, 06:22:57 AM »
Couldn't agree more. My music teacher at school stunned the class I was in, who mostly thought he was a weirdo for liking classical music with a liking for the already mentioned Carpenters and Free. Music is either good or it isn't, and even then it is so much down to personal taste that I'm not sure you can ever totally "judge" a piece objectively. For example, I know Mahler was a great composer, I know the reasons why he was considered so, but he leaves me untouched and unmoved. Unlike my (already mentioned in the past) favourite Shostakovich, or indeed The Mamas and the Papas both of which transport me out of the mundane, humdrum aspects of my life into another place - if only for a short while before I have to come back and do the washing up.

That just shows how people react differently; I cannot imagine being unmoved by Mahler 2; for me I find it a rollercoaster of emotion without compare right from the opening chords to the conclusion, sometimes rivetting, sometimes sublime, always engaging, it inevitably reduces me to tears where few other things can.

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Re: Things that move you
« Reply #43 on: July 28, 2016, 02:35:12 PM »
I love The Carpenters and Beethoven. I don't worry about real art. People love to dress their subjectivity with faux raiments of claimed objectivity.

N S, Ever heard that old cockney saying "Toffee nosed old git'" closely aligned to "Up your own"; just wondered if you knew of them, but then of course, you wouldn't have the slightest idea of what it is I'm talking about.

Beethoven's Third piano concerto is my most favourite piece of music ever, ever, ever, I like to hear the various artists playing this piece just to hear the differing ways they interpret it, John Lill  is showing a lot of  promise on this one, I 'm sure he'll master it in the end.

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Re: Things that move you
« Reply #44 on: July 28, 2016, 02:41:02 PM »
N S, Ever heard that old cockney saying "Toffee nosed old git'" closely aligned to "Up your own"; just wondered if you knew of them, but then of course, you wouldn't have the slightest idea of what it is I'm talking about.

Beethoven's Third piano concerto is my most favourite piece of music ever, ever, ever, I like to hear the various artists playing this piece just to hear the differing ways they interpret it, John Lill  is showing a lot of  promise on this on I 'm sure he'll master it in the end.

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What a darling little chap you are! I do find your posts most awfully amusing. I was just telling Aloysius, my bear, what a simply super blighter, you are!

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« Reply #45 on: July 28, 2016, 03:27:24 PM »
What a darling little chap you are! I do find your posts most awfully amusing. I was just telling Aloysius, my bear, what a simply super blighter, you are!

Glad you liked my post bear it in mind.

All sorts of people are bright in numerous directions, not all of them necessarily in the acadmic direction but bright never the less.

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« Reply #46 on: July 28, 2016, 03:34:40 PM »
Glad you liked my post bear it in mind.

All sorts of people are bright in numerous directions, not all of them necessarily in the acadmic direction but bright never the less.

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Re: Things that move you
« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2016, 04:18:23 PM »


Beethoven's Third piano concerto is my most favourite piece of music ever, ever, ever, I like to hear the various artists playing this piece just to hear the differing ways they interpret it, John Lill  is showing a lot of  promise on this one, I 'm sure he'll master it in the end.

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John Lill is a wonderful pianist (I have several of his recordings). But it is ironic that you of all people, ippy, should single him out. Did you not know that he claims to have met the spirit of Beethoven - literally? This happened the night before he was to perform in the Tchaikovsky International Piano Competition in Moscow, at the beginning of Lill's career. He was preparing to go to bed, in a state of mild apprehension, because of what he had to deliver the following day, and into his hotel room walked Beethoven. "I knew it was Beethoven" said Lill. "He told me that I would perform superbly the next day, and that, what's more, I was going to win".
Lill did win; and his international career was launched.

Lill has further spoken further of his overt "spiritualist" beliefs. He states that his rehearsal methods are to practise intensely, giving every due attention to the technical niceties, but at the performance itself, he puts himself in a trance-like state, and "allows the spirits to guide him, giving him the help he knows will always be there".

Now, please don't take this as any endorsement on my part of such supernatural claims - I take all this sort of thing with a very large pinch of salt these days. But it is curious that such a militant atheist as yourself should cite such a committed believer in the supernatural as one of your musical stars :)
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Re: Things that move you
« Reply #48 on: August 02, 2016, 05:35:19 PM »
John Lill is a wonderful pianist (I have several of his recordings). But it is ironic that you of all people, ippy, should single him out. Did you not know that he claims to have met the spirit of Beethoven - literally? This happened the night before he was to perform in the Tchaikovsky International Piano Competition in Moscow, at the beginning of Lill's career. He was preparing to go to bed, in a state of mild apprehension, because of what he had to deliver the following day, and into his hotel room walked Beethoven. "I knew it was Beethoven" said Lill. "He told me that I would perform superbly the next day, and that, what's more, I was going to win".
Lill did win; and his international career was launched.

Lill has further spoken further of his overt "spiritualist" beliefs. He states that his rehearsal methods are to practise intensely, giving every due attention to the technical niceties, but at the performance itself, he puts himself in a trance-like state, and "allows the spirits to guide him, giving him the help he knows will always be there".

Now, please don't take this as any endorsement on my part of such supernatural claims - I take all this sort of thing with a very large pinch of salt these days. But it is curious that such a militant atheist as yourself should cite such a committed believer in the supernatural as one of your musical stars :)

I've seen Lill up close and live in recital numerous times and I'd be happy to forgive him any amount of wacko beliefs for his wonderful muscular reading of late Beethoven sonatas; no doubt those beliefs contribute to and are part of a unique relationship between composer and interpreter.

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Re: Things that move you
« Reply #49 on: August 02, 2016, 06:26:54 PM »
Had this topic come up a year or so ago, I'd be pretty clear about what moves me, but since my stroke I find myself welling up at some of the most unexpected things.  Generally, they are either good new stories, of which we don't have many, or the tragic ones.  Oddly enough, they no longer have to be as serious as they used to be - so obviously I find things like the breathtaking beauty of New Zealand in the current BBC series very moving, or the events of Nice, Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Germany.  However, I am increasingly finding myself doing the same when seemingly minor (in the bigger picture) events - a suicide attempt at Cardiff Central Rail Station last week, local and national situations that cause pain of whatever sort, etc., ... hit the news, or even Facebook!
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