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Pistorius - is this man sane
« on: June 23, 2016, 09:16:06 PM »

Oscar Pistorius has, in a TV interview, said Reeva Steenkamp, the girlfriend he killed, would not want him to spend his life in jail.


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Re: Pistorius - is this man sane
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2016, 09:36:14 PM »
Oscar Pistorius has, in a TV interview, said Reeva Steenkamp, the girlfriend he killed, would not want him to spend his life in jail.


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If he believes he made a genuine mistake he would probably think that she would believe him and so wouldn't want him to spend his life in jail for a mistake.

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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2016, 09:37:40 PM »
What weight does his opinion have - whether he's sane or not?
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Re: Pistorius - is this man sane
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2016, 10:35:27 PM »
What weight does his opinion have - whether he's sane or not?

No weight but can explain what he said.

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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2016, 10:53:44 PM »

This from the man who refuses to address the Court but will do a TV interview
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2016, 12:26:04 AM »
He was advised not to address the court, he had to get permission to do the TV interview which he wanted to do in the hope of getting his story across.  I will watch the interview.

It's never occurred to me that he is insane.  Only he knows the truth of what happened on that night but it's highly possible that he believed there was an intruder and shot into the bathroom, not knowing Reeva was there.  Especially if he was not long awake.
In that case it was an accident therefore it's not unreasonable for him to say that Reeva would want him to be free, by all accounts she loved him after all and he loved her.

But who knows?
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Re: Pistorius - is this man sane
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2016, 01:48:21 AM »
Oscar Pistorius has, in a TV interview, said Reeva Steenkamp, the girlfriend he killed, would not want him to spend his life in jail.


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If she was still in a position to express an opinion, he would not be a murderer.
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Re: Pistorius - is this man sane
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2016, 07:15:02 AM »

If she was still in a position to express an opinion, he would not be a murderer.


Very good point, and he is hardly likely to tell the world that what she really wanted was for him to burn in Hell, now is he?
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2016, 08:19:47 AM »
That nasty turd should be locked up for a very long time.

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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2016, 09:46:27 AM »

That nasty turd should be locked up for a very long time.


. . . and what about the "look at poor me" by taking off his legs and WALKING across the court!

Pathetic as well as murderous!
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2016, 10:27:18 AM »
. . . and what about the "look at poor me" by taking off his legs and WALKING across the court!

Pathetic as well as murderous!

He is sane enough to try to win sympathy, which he certainly doesn't deserve, as he is an evil murderer.

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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2016, 10:59:17 AM »
. . . and what about the "look at poor me" by taking off his legs and WALKING across the court!

Pathetic as well as murderous!

Come on young Owl, he was advised to do that by his defence;  we frequently see and hear of pathetic defence in all sorts of cases.  He is on trial for murder, you can't get any more serious than that, so all the stops will be pulled out, he is hardly going to be shy about it.
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2016, 11:00:18 AM »
He is sane enough to try to win sympathy, which he certainly doesn't deserve, as he is an evil murderer.

You've obviously made your mind up floo  ;D.
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2016, 11:06:04 AM »
You've obviously made your mind up floo  ;D.

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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2016, 11:37:06 AM »

Come on young Owl, he was advised to do that by his defence;  we frequently see and hear of pathetic defence in all sorts of cases.  He is on trial for murder, you can't get any more serious than that, so all the stops will be pulled out, he is hardly going to be shy about it.


He is lucky tghat, even if found guilty, he is not facing a death sentence! even if he is in prision he has a chance of being released.

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YES, it is something about which I am really touchy ALL the time not just once in a while.
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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2016, 11:45:50 AM »
I do apologise for calling you ''Young'', Owl and promise I won't do it again.  I honestly didn't mean it in a patronising way, I respect you.  It's a term often used and not thought about but not something I'll do again in a hurry.  Really sorry.
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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2016, 11:53:54 AM »
I wish someone would call me 'young' instead of, 'senile old bat', my Baby Sister's term of endearment! :D

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« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2016, 12:50:41 PM »
. . . and what about the "look at poor me" by taking off his legs and WALKING across the court!

Pathetic as well as murderous!

Or if it was a genuine mistake on his behalf he was trying to show how his disability effects him to support his defence case.

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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2016, 01:17:12 PM »
Or if it was a genuine mistake on his behalf he was trying to show how his disability effects him to support his defence case.

That guy has used guns before in anger, he actually managed to shoot someone in a restaurant once, I believe, but didn't kill them!

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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2016, 04:21:04 PM »
I intend to watch the interview with him on ITV tonight at 9pm, to see if I can get the measure of the man and have a better idea.  At the moment, I really don't know.
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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2016, 04:35:36 PM »
That guy has used guns before in anger, he actually managed to shoot someone in a restaurant once, I believe, but didn't kill them!

He certainly has issues - and was diagnosed with GAD - but that doesn't necessarily make him an 'evil murderer'. He may be, or could have genuinely believed an intruder was behind the toilet door and over reacted due to those issues. If the later is true, or iof he truely now believes it to me true, then his comments make sense and do not make him insane.

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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2016, 04:39:15 PM »
He certainly has issues - and was diagnosed with GAD - but that doesn't necessarily make him an 'evil murderer'. He may be, or could have genuinely believed an intruder was behind the toilet door and over reacted due to those issues. If the later is true, or iof he truely now believes it to me true, then his comments make sense and do not make him insane.

Oh dear poor man,  NOT!

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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2016, 05:19:22 PM »
Oh dear poor man,  NOT!

You clearly have formed your opinion and have no doubt about his guilt and so are happy to call him an evil murderer. I don't have that certainty when it being murder rather than culpable homicide/manslaughter and am surprised that anyone does who isn't involved in the case and doesn't know the man.

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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2016, 06:58:56 PM »
Isn't it murder whoever he thought was behind the door?
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2016, 07:11:29 PM »
I wouldn't have thought so if he believed there was an intruder who might well have shot him first.  Also as he shot through the door, he wasn't necessarily shooting to kill.

It's difficult for us to judge that point as we don't allow everyone to have guns in this country.  This case makes me all the more glad that we don't!
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