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Were Out!
« on: June 24, 2016, 05:57:46 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2016, 06:15:15 AM »
Technically, we are not out - yet.

Article 50 has to be invoked and then a period of negotiation ....

What, I think, can be said is that David Cameron is the least competent prime minister since Anthony Eden. Not only has he triggered the departure of the UK from the EU but also the dissolution of the United Kingdom - all by putting the interests of the Conservative Party before those of the country.
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2016, 06:53:37 AM »
It's very difficult to see a 'good' way out of this mess that we have created. Probably a Norway style deal would be the 'least bad' option - but that wouldn't really satisfy anyone.
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2016, 06:56:40 AM »
Already the pound has fallen dramatically.

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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2016, 06:57:54 AM »
It's very difficult to see a 'good' way out of this mess that we have created. Probably a Norway style deal would be the 'least bad' option - but that wouldn't really satisfy anyone.
We won't get a deal that good. Everybody else in the EU is shitting themselves about their own population so we cannot be seen to do well out of this.
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2016, 08:40:54 AM »
We won't get a deal that good. Everybody else in the EU is shitting themselves about their own population so we cannot be seen to do well out of this.

If we can't settle some kind of deal PDQ, we are likely to be in recession with rising unemployment, rising taxes and a falling pound, that mean rising prices and inflation, which all adds up to the kind of stagflation we saw in the 60's.

Not a good prospect!
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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2016, 08:55:03 AM »
Rule Britannia, Britannia waves the rules.  Perhaps there will be enough 'glass half full' people left in the country to see opportunities where others only see gloom and doom.  All we need now is a Brexit from the European Championships and the depression should be complete for many.

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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2016, 09:04:09 AM »
And on a purely pedantic note it should be:

We're out.

Listen I know it's picky but I'm feeling royally pissed off at the stupidity of the 'Great British' public - so let me work it out of my system the way I want to.
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2016, 09:21:41 AM »
Rule Britannia, Britannia waves the rules.  Perhaps there will be enough 'glass half full' people left in the country to see opportunities where others only see gloom and doom.  All we need now is a Brexit from the European Championships and the depression should be complete for many.

Difficult to see the 'glass half full', when some silly buggers have just emptied it down the drain!
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2016, 09:35:36 AM »
A 'glass totally empty' person then.

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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2016, 09:40:31 AM »
A 'glass totally empty' person then.

No, it looks like the glass is smashed!
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2016, 09:54:28 AM »

David Cameron and the Remain team must be really proud of you lot!

NO-ONE can be certain of what happens now -niot even you lot, certainly not me, but, true to Operation Fear you are continuing it even in defeat. Try standing up and trying to make it work - we lost - accept that and work to get the best we can out of it, instead of sitting back and expecting everyone else to do the work for you!

You are acting just like the Labour supporters and Trade Unionists rioting after Labour lost the last election - this is supposed to be a democracy - the will of the majority as shown via the Ballot Box!
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2016, 10:06:39 AM »
And on a purely pedantic note it should be:

We're out.

Listen I know it's picky but I'm feeling royally pissed off at the stupidity of the 'Great British' public - so let me work it out of my system the way I want to.

I am gutted, Trentvoyager.  I honestly didn't think the UK would be leaving.  A victory for the ill educated, ignorant, xenophobic.  It is rare that I care so much about a political issue.
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2016, 10:18:12 AM »
My husband and Baby daughter, like myself, are feeling extremely depressed today. I haven't spoken to our other two girls, but as I know they voted to remain, they will no doubt be feeling that way too.

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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2016, 10:21:45 AM »
Dear Brownie,

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A victory for the ill educated, ignorant, xenophobic.

Well em!!  :o :o

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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2016, 10:27:52 AM »
I am gutted, Trentvoyager.  I honestly didn't think the UK would be leaving.  A victory for the ill educated, ignorant, xenophobic.  It is rare that I care so much about a political issue.

It's sweeping generalisations like this during campaigning that only fuelled the fire of divisiveness - an attempt to scare people off from voting leave for fear of being labelled as such. It clearly didn't work.

What's done is done now, and while I understand how aggrieved some remain voters feel, it's time to stop slinging the mud and find away to pull together.

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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2016, 10:30:59 AM »
In order to get out of the mess the BREXIT lot have created!

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« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2016, 10:41:29 AM »
Dear Andy,

A voice of reason, but we are Brits, lets us have our little whinge, it's what we do best ::)

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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2016, 10:44:06 AM »
. . .

What's done is done now, and while I understand how aggrieved some remain voters feel, it's time to stop slinging the mud and find away to pull together.

I think there is still the question of which direction we should be pulling.
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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2016, 10:51:14 AM »
I think there is still the question of which direction we should be pulling.

Unless something drastic happens, we're pulling out of the EU whether we like it or not. For remainers at least, it's now about finding a way of turning a negative into a positive, or as small a negative as possible.

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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2016, 10:53:53 AM »
Unless something drastic happens, we're pulling out of the EU whether we like it or not. For remainers at least, it's now about finding a way of turning a negative into a positive, or as small a negative as possible.

But the big question is whether we go for a Norway type deal of just stick our necks right out and try for some kind of 'free trade' arrangement.
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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2016, 11:14:37 AM »
Dear Andy,

A voice of reason, but we are Brits, lets us have our little whinge, it's what we do best ::)

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I know, we like a piss and moan, just can't be doing with divisiveness. It happens on both sides, though. Farage was no better last night with his premature victory speech.

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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2016, 11:25:59 AM »
I am gutted, Trentvoyager.  I honestly didn't think the UK would be leaving.  A victory for the ill educated, ignorant, xenophobic.  It is rare that I care so much about a political issue.

That's right - when you lose because of your policies resort to name calling - that will really get people on your side - how many voted Leave because they were labeled racist by Remain!
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2016, 11:29:57 AM »

I know, we like a piss and moan, just can't be doing with divisiveness. It happens on both sides, though. Farage was no better last night with his premature victory speech.


Effectively this was a battle that neither side could effectively win! As for Farage I hope to Hell and gone that he has no part in trying to sort out what happens next. IT would be like putting an arsonist in charge of a fuel dump!
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2016, 11:40:13 AM »
I am gutted, Trentvoyager.  I honestly didn't think the UK would be leaving.  A victory for the ill educated, ignorant, xenophobic.  It is rare that I care so much about a political issue.

I am disappointed myself, but perhaps it is just this sort of approach to (some of) the people who voted out that made them do it. I would expect it from the right, but the left were great at not paying attention to the people they were supposed to represent, labelling them as bigots and racists where concerns were raised again and again. Full of self importance politicians too full of "we know what's good for you" and now the chickens have well and truly come home to roost. Fertile ground created, ripe for exploitation by Boris et al.
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