Where's Boris?

[floo]

When I was looking Boris up on Wiki, I came across the names of his kids, poor souls!

[L.A.]

I read a comment this morning on Facebook that makes the case that Cameron has thoroughly stitched up his successor and the fact that Johnson is moping around like a man who realizes he has just shat himself shows that he knows it.

If the next PM presses the article 50 button they will go down in history as the person who destroyed the UK (as in Scotland leaves not as in economic armageddon). None of the Leavers want that, ironically. If they don't press the button, they will be destroyed for going against the will of the people.

And a great number of those people who voted for Brexit already feel that they were gravely misled by the Brexiteers - now that they realise that 'Project Fear' was simply stating the facts.

And I suspect a most of the rest of them will be feeling pretty bitter once they realise that there will be no significant change in EU migration.

[Brownie]

When I was looking Boris up on Wiki, I came across the names of his kids, poor souls!

I shall have to look those up floo, I've not heard them.  People often do give their kids funny names, or they seem funny to us.  Sarah Palin's are called Trig, Track and Willow from what I remember!  Maybe in the world that Boris's children inhabit, their names are not considered so bizarre.

Later:  I looked them up!   Milo Arthur Johnson, Lara Lettice Johnson, Theodore Apollo Johnson, Cassia Peaches Johnson.

I think they are charming names!  Milo, Lara, Theo and Cass sound fine.  Lettice, Apollo and Peaches are middle names.  I didn't know he had four kids.

[Nearly Sane]

And a great number of those people who voted for Brexit already feel that they were gravely misled by the Brexiteers - now that they realise that 'Project Fear' was simply stating the facts.

And I suspect a most of the rest of them will be feeling pretty bitter once they realise that there will be no significant change in EU migration.

facts like I won't resign immediately and will activate Article 50 immediately from Cameron? Or i'll have an emergency budget from Osborne?

[Gonnagle]

Dear Forum,

Just for the record and I will post this on all the threads concerning Brexit, why? It has to be shouted loud and clear.

This whole debacle, this absolute mess, this catastrophe lies at the feet of the Conservative Party, this EU Referendum was a party political stunt, it never had the thoughts and wishes of the people of Great Britain uppermost.

We now have a nation divided, the Scots are shouting Independence, Northern Ireland are also talking about joining the Republic and both those countries are now wondering about border controls.

Our Capital city ( London ) voted overwhelmingly to remain the rest of England voted to exit, we now have a nation totally divided, our nation is in turmoil because of Tory infighting.

Our Prime Minister ( a Tory ) has washed his hands of the whole mess, we are now left with Tories who don’t have a clue about a way forward.

I have often said that ( long before we even considered a EU Referendum )  the Tory party is the most unchristian, unBritish party we have.

Time for the Conservative Party to disband, give them their marching orders, we a fed up with a party that plays politics, that plays with the life’s of every citizen of Great Britain, they have forfeited the right to stand in our House of Commons, the only thing that mattered to a Tory was the Conservative Party the rights of a British citizen came second, they are a boil on the backside of Great Britain, time to lance that boil.

Gonnagle.

[L.A.]

facts like I won't resign immediately and will activate Article 50 immediately from Cameron? Or i'll have an emergency budget from Osborne?

Was 'resigning' ever considered a threat?

I wouldn't put money on there not being an emergency budget - he didn't rule it out.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Anybody got a Hansard Handy? Was Boris DePfeffel in the house today? If not where's Boretc.

[Jack Knave]

I'm afraid it was tax avoidance which stuffed Greece so in a way self inflicted.
But not as self inflicted as the UK being richer than France at 10 o'clock PM
and poorer than it 12 hours later.

Again Jack, What's the plan?

What did Greece was joining the Euro.

Teething problems, Vlad, we'll be richer than France soon enough.

Plan? You want a plan. I think they are banking on serendipity and just winging it. 

[Jack Knave]

I suspect that several of the 'Leavers' may decide to leave the party, leaving it to those who wanted to remain in the EU.

I think if a pro-EU Tory became PM I think that would really put the cat amongst the pigeons. But generally I think they will stay.

I notice that the petition for a re-run has passed 2.4 million in little over 36 hours.  What would happen if the number signing it reached more than the number of voters who voted for Brexit?   

Just bad losers. I can't see the point of it.

[Jack Knave]

I was out with friends last night and we got to discussing politics, and we realised that the left wing of the Tory party (largely remainders) and the right wing of Labour had more in common with each other than either had with the rest of their own party, in fact on paper, they would be the largest party.

Interesting thought.

That's obvious, Blair won by being Tory in Red clothes.

[Jack Knave]

My guess is Boris is shitting himself right now because in his heart of hearts he never expected this to happen. He wanted a close enough contest to destabilise Cameron and then for him to take over. His plan never included leaving.

And just to echo the currently rather wonderful Vlad on this issue.

What is the fucking plan?

Unforeseen consequence - Cameron calls referendum to save his party and PM-ship, hoping next government will be a coalition so blocking the referendum vote. Boris wins referendum but only needing to lose to get his hands on the PM-ship. Power hungry people going in where only greedy fools jump in.

[Jack Knave]

Dear World, ( because I think the world wants to know )

Vlad is asking, Trent is asking, Gonnagle is asking,

What is the fucking plan? I made it purple, the colour I associate with rage.

And just as a aside, old Blue and his Leprechauns, everytime I look at Andrew Neil

Gonnagle.

PS: I think Trent is right about Boris.

And there's your answer - purple is the colour of UKIP!!!!

[Walt Zingmatilder]

What did Greece was joining the Euro.

Teething problems, Vlad, we'll be richer than France soon enough.

Let's hope it's sooner than later since the argument that ''they have to remember they are trading with the fifth largest economy'' is yet another Brexit promise which has unravelled.

[Jack Knave]

Let's hope it's sooner than later since the argument that ''they have to remember they are trading with the fifth largest economy'' is yet another Brexit promise which has unravelled.

Well no it's not, the markets are calming down and things will generally do so as they see not much has changed.

Countries world wide are starting to queue up to make trade deals with us.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Well no it's not, the markets are calming down and things will generally do so as they see not much has changed.

Countries world wide are starting to queue up to make trade deals with us.

For what? Financial services?

[wigginhall]

For what? Financial services?

Better brothels.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Better brothels.

Yes....I think the ultimate aim of the Right Wing project is cheap labour and cheap shags.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

My understanding is that Boris DePfeffel Johnson is now so absent they are using library pictures of him.

[Jack Knave]

For what? Financial services?

I don't know ask them. What ever we have and they need and what ever they have and we need. That's trade.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

....Boris been in?

[Hope]

Let's hope it's sooner than later since the argument that ''they have to remember they are trading with the fifth largest economy'' is yet another Brexit promise which has unravelled.

And to what extent is Britain's having 'the fifth largest economy' something to do with our being members of the EU?

[Hope]

Unforeseen consequence - Cameron calls referendum to save his party and PM-ship, hoping next government will be a coalition so blocking the referendum vote. Boris wins referendum but only needing to lose to get his hands on the PM-ship. Power hungry people going in where only greedy fools jump in.

I think the f'g plan is the extricate ourselves from the EU.  Just what that will involve is an unknown quantity as nothing like this has happened before.  The Vote Leave campaign don't appear to have done their homework for the result they wanted - whilst Cameron seems to have had a plan for his purposes.  As for the oft-repeated accusations about Conservative in-fighting, it seems to me that the fault lies no less at the feet of Labour who have purposefully ignored and avoided the split on the EU within their membership.

[Gordon]

Seems like Boris might have a competitor that he thought of as being his side-kick.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36671336

[L.A.]

Seems like Boris might have a competitor that he thought of as being his side-kick.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36671336

The loathsome Gove, that's all we need!

[jeremyp]

What did Greece was joining the Euro.

No, what did Greece was joining the Euro and cooking the books. The fundamental problem was massive tax avoidance and lying to themselves about the state of their economy. Once this was found out, the fact of being in the Euro prevented them from doing anything to about it.

Please stop conflating the EU with the Euro. The latter was definitely a bad idea. The former is not.

Teething problems, Vlad, we'll be richer than France soon enough.

We already were richer than France.