Where's Boris?

[jeremyp]

1.25 million more voted to leave than to stay.

Which is only 4% of the people who voted.

What Farage said was for the long term, not weeks later, or even months or a few years down the road.

I don't think he put time scales on it.

Feel free to arrange a vote to join the EU in say 5 to 10 years time.

Oh, if you had the honest eyes of reality you would have seen those gaping holes years ago.

It would be better not to leave at all. We'd have difficulty negotiating to get our rebate back if we left and rejoined.

[Jack Knave]

I don't think he put time scales on it.

It would be better not to leave at all. We'd have difficulty negotiating to get our rebate back if we left and rejoined.

He wouldn't have meant in weeks or even months as the whinging Remainers are doing.

If we had voted to stay we would have lost our rebate in no time as the EU would have taken the vote as a positive sign of the UK's willingness to be part of the full political monty.

[ProfessorDavey]

Which is only 4% of the people who voted.

And under 2% of the population.

[jeremyp]

If we had voted to stay we would have lost our rebate in no time as the EU would have taken the vote as a positive sign of the UK's willingness to be part of the full political monty.

You still can't stop lying can you.

Britain has a veto. Look up what that word means, please.

[Jack Knave]

You still can't stop lying can you.

Britain has a veto. Look up what that word means, please.

On our rebate?

[jeremyp]

On our rebate?

On people taking the rebate away. That's why it hasn't happened.

[Nearly Sane]

Here's Boris

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/19/boris-johnson-grilled-past-outright-lies-uneasy-press-conference-john-kerry

[Brownie]

Quite amusing if it was not so serious.
I'm so glad he didn't become leader of the Cons/PM.

Later:  Just saw him in America on the news.  It was well embarrassing  .

[jeremyp]

Here's Boris

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/19/boris-johnson-grilled-past-outright-lies-uneasy-press-conference-john-kerry

It looks like Michael Gove did us a favour by derailing his leadership campaign.

[Brownie]

I've said it before but I really believe Boris was happy to stand down, he knew he wouldn't be up to the job and no doubt Theresa May promised him a top job if he backed her.  I know I'm leaving Michael Gove out of this scenario but I feel so many deals go on behind the scenes that we don't hear of and Gove was never really a credible candidate, he just seemed to occupy Boris's empty space for a while.  Ralph Fiennes has said something about him today: https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2016/jul/19/ralph-fiennes-michael-gove-is-just-like-richard-iii

But back to Boris - Foreign Affairs indeed!  The UK's representative abroad.  Well, Mrs May will be able to reshuffle in time 

(I don't dislike Boris actually, it's nothing personal.  He is a character, or maybe a caricature.  It's just that I've never been able to take him seriously.  Being Mayor was one thing but the world stage is a different matter.)

[Udayana]

hmm ... but he wasn't backing May, he was supporting Leadsom.

[Udayana]

I think May has appointed the three Brexit leaders as a joke, They all hate each other and being forced to share Chevening, normally reserved for the foreign secretary, will add to the farce.

I hope someone is starting a book on their antics!

[Gonnagle]

Dear Udayana,

Is he a Boris or a de Pfeffel so far he has been fairly quiet, taking his bumps from his fellow journalists with a quiet humility, and from what I have read so far, he is keeping his head down when speaking with his EU counterparts.

In other news, this guy is predicting that de Pfeffel will be our next PM, in the mold of Winston Churchill

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36803206

Gonnagle.

[Brownie]

I was getting a bit confused in my enthusiasm (indeed the other day I was talking to someone about the EU ref and kept saying, "Brexit" when I meant "Remainers";  I knew what I meant and, thankfully, so did the person I was talking to).  Michael Gove backed May, iirc and thought he would have a prominent position in her government;  it seemed so but didn't last long!

The de Pfeffel name suits Boris but I don't think de Pfeffel is his alter ego.  He is what he is regardless of ancestry.  To quote his rich Russian friend:  "Boris is not a man of intrigue. Boris is very loyal."
He's like Marmite, really.

[Jack Knave]

I think May has appointed the three Brexit leaders as a joke, They all hate each other and being forced to share Chevening, normally reserved for the foreign secretary, will add to the farce.

I hope someone is starting a book on their antics!

So you are saying that she hopes they'll get found out by the press and made to look incompatible and incompetent so that she can then appoint some Remainers?

[Udayana]

They will tie themselves in knots.

All the significant decisions will be made by May and Hammond. May has said "Brexit means Brexit" so I don't think she intends to remain or promote remainers. However, I expect that her final choices will depend on how she thinks the electorate balance economic security against immigration.

[jeremyp]

They will tie themselves in knots.

All the significant decisions will be made by May and Hammond. May has said "Brexit means Brexit" so I don't think she intends to remain or promote retainers.

She said "made up word" means "made up word". The statement contained no information. I think, right now, she is doing her level best to find a way out of this mess without leaving the EU. She may succeed, but it will probably be at the cost of her own career.

[Brownie]

I read earlier, on the 'net, that Theresa May, in Germany, has managed to avoid answering the question: 'Why did you appoint BJ as foreign sec?'.  She diverted skilfully in a suitably vague manner.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I read earlier, on the 'net, that Theresa May, in Germany, has managed to avoid answering the question: 'Why did you appoint BJ as foreign sec?'.  She diverted skilfully in a suitably vague manner.

Did it go something like ''Kerwhibbleshibbly dobbledopdopwheeeeeeeeee'' by any chance?

[Brownie]

You saw it too?

[Bubbles]

The more I hear about Boris Johnson the more he grows on me 

During the Conservative Party leadership contest, Mrs May used the water cannon fiasco to mock Mr Johnson’s negotiating skills by saying: “Boris negotiated in Europe. I seem to remember last time he did a deal with the Germans, he came back with three nearly-new water cannon.”

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/uk/boris-johnson-still-trying-find-use-water-cannon/

 

Boris Johnson on heatwave: We have beautiful German water cannon

 

[Jack Knave]

They will tie themselves in knots.

All the significant decisions will be made by May and Hammond. May has said "Brexit means Brexit" so I don't think she intends to remain or promote remainers. However, I expect that her final choices will depend on how she thinks the electorate balance economic security against immigration.

You may be right. The three amigos may be May's puppets, the face of the process for good measure but being heavily guided.

[Jack Knave]

She said "made up word" means "made up word". The statement contained no information. I think, right now, she is doing her level best to find a way out of this mess without leaving the EU. She may succeed, but it will probably be at the cost of her own career.

She's using Brexit the way you are using it i.e. to include the EEA etc. That is as a non Member of the EU.

[floo]

Boris's hair is looking much tidier, I wonder if TM got her scissors out when she gave him the job of Foreign Secretary?

[Jack Knave]

Boris's hair is looking much tidier, I wonder if TM got her scissors out when she gave him the job of Foreign Secretary?

The-razor May!!!