Red on Red, Labour implode

[Nearly Sane]

I think most of the Brexit camp scared themselves shit-less when they won and are now trying to avoid blame by damage limitation. They will be united behind May for a long as she is succeeding or at least until negotiations totally screw-up. If she succeeds she will be the nations saviour and the Tories will be unassailable.  If she fails it's all bets off.

is that why you have the Dangerous Brothers, Liam and Boris mouthing off?

[L.A.]

is that why you have the Dangerous Brothers, Liam and Boris mouthing off?

What is that saying about keeping your friends close but your enemies closer?

[Nearly Sane]

What is that saying about keeping your friends close but your enemies closer?

and keep your enemies in the position to define Brexit

[Nearly Sane]

I think most of the Brexit camp scared themselves shit-less when they won and are now trying to avoid blame by damage limitation. They will be united behind May for a long as she is succeeding or at least until negotiations totally screw-up. If she succeeds she will be the nations saviour and the Tories will be unassailable.  If she fails it's all bets off.

What do you define as success?

[L.A.]

and keep your enemies in the position to define Brexit

I would imagine that they might make useful pawns to sacrifice if things start to go wrong.

[L.A.]

What do you define as success?

Tariff free access to the single market for all sectors including financial. I suspect that we will have to agree to some free movement of labour but will probably be allowed to exclude criminals. (Lets face it we need most of the migrants)

It almost certainly won't satisfy UKIP but my guess is that most of the country is ready for stability .

[Nearly Sane]

Tariff free access to the single market for all sectors including financial. I suspect that we will have to agree to some free movement of labour but will probably be allowed to exclude criminals. (Lets face it we need most of the migrants)

It almost certainly won't satisfy UKIP but my guess is that most of the country is ready for stability .

Would be good if as PM she said that, or stopped ministers from backing the opposite position, or do you just think she has a cunning plan (one that gives her more power than a PM has)?

[Jack Knave]

It appears no debate on Brexit at the Labour Party Conference, given anything you do will be seen in the light if Brexit, and their one small chance is to take a position that might split the Tories, think this is foolish

Some think that Brexit will get the Tories anyway, so just leave them to bash themselves up.

[Jack Knave]

Because it's 1980 all over again and she's Maggie! (shame about that terrible Brexit mess that needs clearing-up)

The EU debate in the Tories finally brought her down and the Brexit issue may bring May down.

[Jack Knave]

Yes, and he was leader of the opposition! He needed to do a bit more than mutter a few notes. He is on record as saying  that "he had mixed feelings on the EU" so he was never going to campaign passionately. (the phrase 'waste of space' springs to mind)

But the media generally followed the two main groups of for and against. Corbyn refused to be on the same platform as Cameron and co. And rightly so, after Scots referendum effect. He did his bit but the PLP weren't happy that it wasn't with the official Remain term.

[Jack Knave]

If he had been honest, he would have declared himself neutral and let someone else head the Labour campaign - but that would have weakened his leadership so I'm guessing that that might have been at the back of his mind.

He didn't head the Labours campaign! Johnson did.

[Jack Knave]

I would imagine that they might make useful pawns to sacrifice if things start to go wrong.

That's the way to play the game!