The Economy is in for a rough ride

[Nearly Sane]

Stop being a wum. Bremainers bremoaners.

your empathy for people losing jobs is quite extraordinary. You really don't want to accept the consequences of your action .

[~TW~]

When are you people going to realise the EU is finished we have brexit just a matter of time before more follow you remaniacs are just a minority.

                                          http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/696760/british-no-regret-Brexit-majority-support-Leave-theresa-may-national-stats-poll-EU


                                                ~TW~

[jakswan]

your empathy for people losing jobs is quite extraordinary. You really don't want to accept the consequences of your action .

I voted a certain way because you failed to come up with an effective argument to persuade my to vote the other way. In the debate on this forum apart from your normal little occasional sneer you didn't come up with much, in fact I'm not even sure you even actually made your voting intentions known.

[Nearly Sane]

I voted a certain way because you failed to come up with an effective argument to persuade my to vote the other way. In the debate on this forum apart from your normal little occasional sneer you didn't come up with much, in fact I'm not even sure you even actually made your voting intentions known.

Looks like the realisation that your vote actually has an effect on people has caused you to just resort to insult. Let's remember you were voting Leave even though you wanted to Stay.

[jakswan]

Looks like the realisation that your vote actually has an effect on people has caused you to just resort to insult. Let's remember you were voting Leave even though you wanted to Stay.

No idea what you are wittering on about.

[Nearly Sane]

No idea what you are wittering on about.

you don't remember suggesting that you wanted a better deal and stay in the EU? I note you now cannot deal with this civilly now.

[jakswan]

you don't remember suggesting that you wanted a better deal and stay in the EU? I note you now cannot deal with this civilly now.

What I said was if you want to stay in a reformed Eu then vote leave as it will offer reforms for us to stay. I'm dealing with it civilly just not biting to your wind uppery, if you have lost your job as result of leave I feel sorry for you.

I would politely suggest maybe you could have come up with better arguments, but to be honest I don't recall you making any. Davey might a concerted effort and apart from the name calling he did make me think a few times.

Are you done with the baiting now?

[SusanDoris]

I still think we will be better off in the long term.

Why? How? I still have not heard one positive, even minimally convincing argument for leaving the EU.

[floo]

Why? How? I still have not heard one positive, even minimally convincing argument for leaving the EU.

Nor have I.

[Harrowby Hall]

What I said was if you want to stay in a reformed Eu then vote leave as it will offer reforms for us to stay.

What conceivable misperception of the situation encouraged you to have this fantasy?

There was a prime minister, Cameron, whose only concern was management of the Conservative Party. There was a near-demagogic popular politician who preached about the Promised Land. There was a group of minor political figures in the Conservative Party who each believed they could hijack their own way into Downing Street. There was a group of Neanderthal throwbacks on the Conservative back benches for whom nostalgia isn't what it used to be.

How on earth could you imagine any concept of reform might emerge? What illegal substance were you imbibing?

[jeremyp]

Where is the evidence to say Nissan exiting the UK is happening, and would be utterly and solely to do with Brexit.

No. It would be due to economic conditions changing in general. EU tariffs might be countered by cheaper British labour caused by a recession or augmented by rises in the prices of imported raw materials caused by the collapse in the pound. It's a complex equation but Brexit is certainly not going to help and tariffs might be the tipping point.

Tarrifs on British made cars could be countered with tarrifs on cars made in France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Czechoslovakia

This isn't the school playground. Every tariff applied reduces World prosperity by inhibiting trade. Tariffs are bad. That's why people do trade deals. That's why the single market exists.

And if you think BMW are going to be hurt by us applying tariffs to their cars in the same way as Nissan workers in Washington when the factory moves to France, you are seriously deluded.

[jeremyp]

Also with the lower pound Nissan are doing even better being based in UK.

The raw materials they import will be more expensive. The EU tariffs will be a killer.

Give it two or three years, they'll be leaving.

And you can take pride in the fact that you personally take a share in the blame for those lost jobs.

[jeremyp]

Stop being a wum. Bremainers bremoaners.

Why can't you accept that people are losing their jobs over this? Even if things improve in the long term there are going to be lots of cases like NS's in the short term. Be a man and own up to your responsibility.

Also, stop blaming NS for your inability to correctly parse the arguments.

[jakswan]

Why can't you accept that people are losing their jobs over this? Even if things improve in the long term there are going to be lots of cases like NS's in the short term. Be a man and own up to your responsibility.

Also, stop blaming NS for your inability to correctly parse the arguments.

In a democracy it is your responsibility to come up with convincing arguments for the position you want to prevail. This is going in circles, if you want to remain then Owen Smith \ Liberals will get it done for you. Sneering from the sidelines on an internet forum and calling peoples names failed to work for you in the referendum and it won't help your cause now.

[jeremyp]

In a democracy it is your responsibility to come up with convincing arguments for the position you want to prevail. This is going in circles, if you want to remain then Owen Smith \ Liberals will get it done for you. Sneering from the sidelines on an internet forum and calling peoples names failed to work for you in the referendum and it won't help your cause now.

I see you still have nothing to say on your responsibility for NS's loss. You seem to be in total denial.

[jeremyp]

calling peoples names

It is a fact that you are a coward. You are simply ignoring the consequences of your vote. Maybe that is calling you names, but they are true names.

[JP]

How is this tariff thing going to work then. Are the EU just going to slap tariffs on everything and we are just going to bend over and take it, or will there be negotiations.

In addition from what I read and hear Nissan are going nowhere. 

[Nearly Sane]

Have done 9 interviews today with people's whose contracts will end early in part becuase of Brexit. and I 've had to tell them that  - if I had the energy to call someone names, I might well do

[Bubbles]

I see you still have nothing to say on your responsibility for NS's loss. You seem to be in total denial.

He isn't any more responsible than you are.

No matter that he voted for Brexit.

This sounds like something that was going to happen Brexit or no, because it's only in part, according to NS.

[Bubbles]

It is a fact that you are a coward. You are simply ignoring the consequences of your vote. Maybe that is calling you names, but they are true names.

Did you get out of bed the wrong side, Jeremy?

I don't really find your post acceptable, when aimed at another poster who just happened to vote differently than you.

He is no more to blame for the loss of jobs than anyone else here.

[Nearly Sane]

He isn't any more responsible than you are.

No matter that he voted for Brexit.

This sounds like something that was going to happen Brexit or no, because it's only in part, according to NS.

If it hadn't happened I wouldn't have been doing what I did this morning. It's not all down to Brexit, but that and its outcomes are the specific straw that broke this specific camel's back. The outcome is in that part down to that choice,

[jakswan]

It is a fact that you are a coward. You are simply ignoring the consequences of your vote. Maybe that is calling you names, but they are true names.

I think me and you are done.

[jeremyp]

He isn't any more responsible than you are.

That's the beauty of the referendum. Everybody who voted leave has a share of the responsibility. So, yes, he is more responsible than me.

[jeremyp]

Did you get out of bed the wrong side, Jeremy?

I don't really find your post acceptable, when aimed at another poster who just happened to vote differently than you.

He is no more to blame for the loss of jobs than anyone else here.

Yes he is. As a leave voter, he is directly responsible. And he hasn't even so much as acknowledged the fact.

And please stop telling me what to think.

[jeremyp]

I think me and you are done.

Still unable to confront the consequences of your actions, I see.