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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #300 on: September 19, 2016, 12:11:53 PM »
Good morning to you L.A.

Small businesses are the back-bone of our economy.  At present they are being stifled by EU red tape, being subject to the same restrictions as big business, which is so much better placed to cope.  Once free of the EU these small businesses will be free to expand, to all the world;  and yes it will benefit them, of course, but more to the point, it will benefit us all by strengthening the economy.  It is very simple economics.

I'm certainly not anti-business, quite the reverse, but a 'hard' Brexit would be catastrophic for all those small businesses who are sub-contractors for the likes of Nissan. Also unrestrained freedom to trade with countries such as India would produce a flood of cheap imports that would finish many businesses and the jobs that go with them.
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #301 on: September 19, 2016, 12:14:35 PM »
I'm certainly not anti-business, quite the reverse, but a 'hard' Brexit would be catastrophic for all those small businesses who are sub-contractors for the likes of Nissan. Also unrestrained freedom to trade with countries such as India would produce a flood of cheap imports that would finish many businesses and the jobs that go with them.

I'm sure that those in charge will be well aware of your points, and will act accordingly.  I don't think we are about to do ourselves down!
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #302 on: September 19, 2016, 12:27:54 PM »
I'm sure that those in charge will be well aware of your points, and will act accordingly.  I don't think we are about to do ourselves down!

That assumes that everyone 'in charge' has our best interests at heart.
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« Reply #303 on: September 19, 2016, 12:38:49 PM »
That assumes that everyone 'in charge' has our best interests at heart.

I am pretty sure they will be; why not?
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« Reply #304 on: September 19, 2016, 12:45:14 PM »
I am pretty sure they will be; why not?

Because MPs have other interests and I'm sure that there would be a lot of money to be made from certain deals that would be detrimental to the majority of us.
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« Reply #305 on: September 19, 2016, 12:55:26 PM »
Because MPs have other interests and I'm sure that there would be a lot of money to be made from certain deals that would be detrimental to the majority of us.

But they won't be making our plans.  I have a regard for Liam Fox, and David Davies, in particular, and I trust them.
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« Reply #306 on: September 19, 2016, 01:00:23 PM »
But they won't be making our plans.  I have a regard for Liam Fox, and David Davies, in particular, and I trust them.

Those are two of the names that I have less than 100% confidence in.
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« Reply #307 on: September 19, 2016, 01:15:30 PM »
But they won't be making our plans.  I have a regard for Liam Fox, and David Davies, in particular, and I trust them.
That's the Liam Fox that resigned in disgrace?

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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #308 on: September 19, 2016, 01:23:44 PM »
That's the Liam Fox that resigned in disgrace?

What's that got to do with his role in the Brexit plans?
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #309 on: September 19, 2016, 01:26:21 PM »
What's that got to do with his role in the Brexit plans?
it's a question of trust, given that the whole issue was about access and donations

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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #310 on: September 19, 2016, 01:28:53 PM »
What's that got to do with his role in the Brexit plans?

Well he doesn't seem overly trustworthy does he. Largest expense claimant and the hoo-ha at the MOD. Shouldn't really be let anywhere near a cabinet post.

David Davis (even tho I don't agree with him) is imo more trustworthy.
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #311 on: September 19, 2016, 02:03:40 PM »
Well he doesn't seem overly trustworthy does he. Largest expense claimant and the hoo-ha at the MOD. Shouldn't really be let anywhere near a cabinet post.

David Davis (even tho I don't agree with him) is imo more trustworthy.

That would be the David Davis who appeared to forget his speech in a leadership election then later went through the rather pointless exercise of forcing a bi election in his own seat as a civil liberties protest . (possibly well motivated but an utter waste of everyone's time and money)

He might be trustworthy, but what a Wally!
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #312 on: September 19, 2016, 02:28:27 PM »
That would be the David Davis who appeared to forget his speech in a leadership election then later went through the rather pointless exercise of forcing a bi election in his own seat as a civil liberties protest . (possibly well motivated but an utter waste of everyone's time and money)

He might be trustworthy, but what a Wally!

Yes - I was only comparing trustworthiness. In any case they are Tories....... ;)
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #313 on: September 19, 2016, 02:39:34 PM »
That would be the David Davis who appeared to forget his speech in a leadership election then later went through the rather pointless exercise of forcing a bi election in his own seat as a civil liberties protest . (possibly well motivated but an utter waste of everyone's time and money)

He might be trustworthy, but what a Wally!

He may be a wally in some matters, L.A., NS, but if Theresa May and her advisors think he is the right man for the job, I'll go along with their judgement.
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #314 on: September 19, 2016, 02:41:42 PM »
Well he doesn't seem overly trustworthy does he. Largest expense claimant and the hoo-ha at the MOD. Shouldn't really be let anywhere near a cabinet post.

David Davis (even tho I don't agree with him) is imo more trustworthy.

Though I am well aware of your expertise in political judgement, I think I prefer Theresa May's.  No offence.
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #315 on: September 19, 2016, 02:44:34 PM »
Though I am well aware of your expertise in political judgement, I think I prefer Theresa May's.  No offence.

None taken. Your putting your trust in Teresa May's judgement shows you for the politically naïve waif you are. No offence.
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #316 on: September 19, 2016, 02:53:59 PM »
None taken. Your putting your trust in Teresa May's judgement shows you for the politically naïve waif you are. No offence.

A rather cheap attempt at scoring a point at my expense; but I have to say, comparing your judgement of me with Theresa May's judgment of anything is akin to comparing Ann Widdicombe's dancing with Darcy Bussells!  No offence! 
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #317 on: September 19, 2016, 02:59:27 PM »
A rather cheap attempt at scoring a point at my expense; but I have to say, comparing your judgement of me with Theresa May's judgment of anything is akin to comparing Ann Widdicombe's dancing with Darcy Bussells!  No offence!

Well I love a little bit of condescension in the afternoon.

If you think May is going to get us out of this in any decent shape you are even more deluded than your posts suggest.

May is to politics what you are to respect. Very distant cousins. No offence.
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #318 on: September 19, 2016, 03:27:53 PM »
Though I am well aware of your expertise in political judgement, I think I prefer Theresa May's.  No offence.
Political Judgement?
Boris Johnson, Foreign Secretary!
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #319 on: September 19, 2016, 04:03:39 PM »
Political Judgement?
Boris Johnson, Foreign Secretary!
No offence.


You know better, of course.  Shouldn't you be offering the Government the benefit of your higher judgement? 
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #320 on: September 19, 2016, 04:06:26 PM »
He may be a wally in some matters, L.A., NS, but if Theresa May and her advisors think he is the right man for the job, I'll go along with their judgement.

Maybe, I suppose the Pope did make her a saint didn't he . . . . (or was that a dream)
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« Reply #321 on: September 19, 2016, 04:08:10 PM »
Maybe, I suppose the Pope did make her a saint didn't he . . . . (or was that a dream)

Who knows, in the fullness of time?
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #322 on: September 19, 2016, 04:14:37 PM »
Well I love a little bit of condescension in the afternoon.

If you think May is going to get us out of this in any decent shape you are even more deluded than your posts suggest.

May is to politics what you are to respect. Very distant cousins. No offence.

I have to say that judging by your posts, you are to politics what John Prescott is to ice-dancing. Hope that's not too harsh!!!
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #323 on: September 19, 2016, 04:19:43 PM »
Those are two of the names that I have less than 100% confidence in.

What do you know of their political and negotiating skills, L.A.,
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« Reply #324 on: September 19, 2016, 04:39:08 PM »
What do you know of their political and negotiating skills, L.A.,

I gather Fox has been quite adept at negotiation deals in the defence industry:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2049356/Liam-Fox-resignation-The-experts-doubled-profits-Defence-Minister.html

. . . though I'm not sure the taxpayers were the beneficiaries.


As for Davis, I wouldn't consider him capable of negotiating a McDonald's Meal Deal!
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