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BashfulAnthony

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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #375 on: September 22, 2016, 10:38:41 AM »
Hi B.A.

I think I'm being very realistic, the situation could go either way and at the moment there are not really any indicators give us a clue.

There are indicators:  first and foremost that the doom-mongers are already being proved wrong.  I think we are well capable of sustaining a viable economy and negotiating deals that will be beneficial to the UK.
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #376 on: September 22, 2016, 10:43:56 AM »
The Economy is in for a rough ride because if people have no money they cannot buy.
A piece of bread could buy a bag of Gold. The poor in our Country have had their benefits cut and the Government lie in their  false claims of what people actually receive.

If God suddenly decided to remove the food chain where would they be?

We are being undermined by the Government. As a believer God owns everything.

Typo and the fact my keyboard sticks sometimes so letters do not post though they have been hit on the keyboard.

I am sure those who know the Christian teaching " A piece of bread could buy a bag of Gold."  It comes from a well known song... I wish we'd all been ready.
Such times as now is the time when these things can and will eventually become possible.
Our own Government leave God out of the picture and act without Gods truth or even the fact they become answerable. If our Country goes through disastrous times then they should of heeded the truth.


He that oppresseth the poor to increase his riches, and he that giveth to the rich, shall surely come to want.

Too often, and for far too long, the Conservatives have sought to give to the rich by oppressing/taking from the poor. It leads to want by all. I do believe in the last days that as God provided for his people in the wilderness and barren place he will provide for those he loves. But what about those who ignore the truth.

Our Government cares very little for truth or the real people in poverty in our own Country.
They give to others outside our country in need, whilst denying aid to their own. Not the way of God. You want watch and look and know that if you support welfare cuts because of lies that you place yourself in with those who themselves will become financially hard up. Remove the support from the bottom of the pile and the rest of the pile falls even harder.

Sometimes all Christians have to do is to tell those in power. Write to their MP and the PM because once warned their not get out clause and it requires only one of us to make that happen. I wrote to the PM yesterday... to warn those who oppress the poor lose everything themselves.

Our Government has turned the rich and not so rich against our poorest with lies.
How can a country divided stand? They insult God in what they do.



Peace of mind makes the body healthy, but jealousy is like a cancer. If you oppress poor people, you insult the God who made them; but kindness shown to the poor is an act of worship. Wicked people bring about their own downfall by their evil deeds, but good people are protected by their integrity. Wisdom is in every thought of intelligent people; fools know nothing about wisdom. Righteousness makes a nation great; sin is a disgrace to any nation. Kings are pleased with competent officials, but they punish those who fail them.


Does anyone think of what would have become of our Queen and Country if we had entered the EU. No truer words than man may make all the plans he wants but God has the last word.

I have just been able to share freely what is probably the true cause of any problems with our economy. It is enough to ask you to ponder and think on how if you lose your jobs;  the benefits you took away from those in a lesser position are the same as you will reap?
How man becomes caught in his own traps and his own treatment of others. But those who brought it about will feel it more keenly than the innocent victims who have suffered because of it.
Note to ponder very seriously about what we decided to impose on others .
How many people have committed suicide and have died whilst being left without benefits or financial help. You can have blood on your hands of innocent people simply by supporting the powers that caused their cruel treatment. The Government did not get it right to follow the cruelty of the USA against their own benefit people. Kids live on the streets in America and soon it will be happening here if the Government are not made to face the reality of their actions.
We know we have to work together to abolish war and terrorism to create a compassionate  world in which Justice and peace prevail. Love ;D   Einstein
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #377 on: September 22, 2016, 10:53:39 AM »
There are indicators:  first and foremost that the doom-mongers are already being proved wrong.  I think we are well capable of sustaining a viable economy and negotiating deals that will be beneficial to the UK.

The 'doom-mongers' have most certainly not been proved wrong, the government have been extremely guarded in their announcements, but we can be pretty certain that some elements would be prepared to lose the single market, and that is very worrying.

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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #378 on: September 22, 2016, 10:58:58 AM »
The 'doom-mongers' have most certainly not been proved wrong, the government have been extremely guarded in their announcements, but we can be pretty certain that some elements would be prepared to lose the single market, and that is very worrying.

In what  ways are the doom-mongers correct?  And what specific Government announcements are you referring to?
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #379 on: September 22, 2016, 11:36:22 AM »
In what  ways are the doom-mongers correct?  And what specific Government announcements are you referring to?

As I said earlier, we are still in the 'phoney war' - apart from the exchange rate, nothing has actually changed yet and this state could potentially go on for some time, but in the end we will have to face the consequences of Brexit - and that could still be very unpleasant.

It's the lack of government information that I was referring to.
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #380 on: September 23, 2016, 08:28:17 AM »
Or indeed information that it is then denied, but don't worry, they are all exceedingly worthy and trustworthy according to BA.


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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #381 on: September 23, 2016, 08:36:13 AM »
Or indeed information that it is then denied, but don't worry, they are all exceedingly worthy and trustworthy according to BA.


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You are in the minority yet again, NS.  A survey by Radio5Live today shows that 62% are happy with the way things are going, and feel positive about it.  So, it's just the minority who are doom merchants!
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #382 on: September 23, 2016, 08:42:05 AM »
You are in the minority yet again, NS.  A survey by Radio5Live today shows that 62% are happy with the way things are going, and feel positive about it.  So, it's just the minority who are doom merchants!
Ah argumentum ad populum. Try and deal with the fact that the foreign secretary doesn't know what's going on

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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #383 on: September 23, 2016, 08:56:58 AM »
Ah argumentum ad populum. Try and deal with the fact that the foreign secretary doesn't know what's going on

Try looking at the news!  This morning Boris was on, saying that he thought that Article 50 would be invoked early in 2017, and that he didn't think the exit would take as long as two years.  At this, still early, stage nobody can expect a lot more.
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #384 on: September 23, 2016, 08:59:55 AM »
Try looking at the news!  This morning Boris was on, saying that he thought that Article 50 would be invoked early in 2017, and that he didn't think the exit would take as long as two years.  At this, still early, stage nobody can expect a lot more.

I did look at the news.

Apparently his boss wasn't too happy that he had spoken out of turn.
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #385 on: September 23, 2016, 09:03:54 AM »
I did look at the news.

Apparently his boss wasn't too happy that he had spoken out of turn.

Really?  I missed that bit.  Could you enlighten me as to what she said?  Whatever, it doesn't alter the fact that when you said Boris didn't know what was going on, you were wrong.
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #386 on: September 23, 2016, 09:04:21 AM »
Try looking at the news!  This morning Boris was on, saying that he thought that Article 50 would be invoked early in 2017, and that he didn't think the exit would take as long as two years.  At this, still early, stage nobody can expect a lot more.
I take it you didn't read the articke then?

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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #387 on: September 23, 2016, 09:06:39 AM »
I take it you didn't read the articke then?

No, I didn't.  So tell me what she said.
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #388 on: September 23, 2016, 09:10:43 AM »
No, I didn't.  So tell me what she said.
Ah so you commented on something and now admit you hadn't any sense of what you were commenting on. Do you intentionally try to make yourself look ridiculous?

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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #389 on: September 23, 2016, 09:21:45 AM »
Ah so you commented on something and now admit you hadn't any sense of what you were commenting on. Do you intentionally try to make yourself look ridiculous?

What the heck are you talking about?  I said that Boris had spoken on the news:  I never said anything about reading any article.. I mentioned Article 50, if that's what your muddled mind is mixing up!  I think it's someone else who is looking rather ridiculous this morning!
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #390 on: September 23, 2016, 09:31:52 AM »
What the heck are you talking about?  I said that Boris had spoken on the news:  I never said anything about reading any article.. I mentioned Article 50, if that's what your muddled mind is mixing up!  I think it's someone else who is looking rather ridiculous this morning!
I posted a link to an article in #380, you commented on it. Your reply in #383 indicated that you had not read the article. I asked about whether you had read it in #386, and you replied that you had not in #387.

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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #391 on: September 23, 2016, 09:40:03 AM »
I posted a link to an article in #380, you commented on it. Your reply in #383 indicated that you had not read the article. I asked about whether you had read it in #386, and you replied that you had not in #387.

What on earth are you on about?  I didn't read any article, nor did I say I had.  I asked that I might be enlightened as to what it said.  All I have done is say that I had heard Boris on the news.  You seem totally muddled and completely off the ball.
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #392 on: September 23, 2016, 09:42:37 AM »
What on earth are you on about?  I didn't read any article, nor did I say I had.  I asked that I might be enlightened as to what it said.  All I have done is say that I had heard Boris on the news.  You seem totally muddled and completely off the ball.
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #393 on: September 23, 2016, 09:52:00 AM »
I have given you the list of posts, not really sure how to get any further. Read the numbered posts and get back to me

I have read the posts, and I never said I had read any article.  I asked to be enlightened as to what it said, ie what was in it.  That's all.  So what are you on about?  There really is no more to say about this, and it's getting bizarre, going round in circles.
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #394 on: October 10, 2016, 07:06:57 PM »
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #396 on: October 11, 2016, 09:59:42 AM »
That is frightening! :o
And also today a leaked cabinet document has revealed that hard Breixt would result in a loss of revenue to the treasury of up to 」66billion a year - to put that in context that is 65% of the total budget of the NHS.

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« Reply #397 on: October 11, 2016, 12:23:27 PM »
And also today a leaked cabinet document has revealed that hard Breixt would result in a loss of revenue to the treasury of up to 」66billion a year - to put that in context that is 65% of the total budget of the NHS.

I reckon if Brexit starts hitting people where it hurts most, in the pocket, there will be a public outcry against it!

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« Reply #398 on: October 11, 2016, 01:18:09 PM »
And also today a leaked cabinet document has revealed that hard Breixt would result in a loss of revenue to the treasury of up to 」66billion a year - to put that in context that is 65% of the total budget of the NHS.
Don't worry, it'll come out of the fictional 」350 million per week we are paying to the EU.
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Re: The Economy is in for a rough ride
« Reply #399 on: October 11, 2016, 06:51:14 PM »
I reckon if Brexit starts hitting people where it hurts most, in the pocket, there will be a public outcry against it!

With the pound down by a fifth from it's value on the 23rd of June - it is already hitting us in the pocket - try buying your holiday currency!

But that is almost trivial compared to what is in the pipeline - . We don't necessarily get the full effect at once because many companies use currency hedging, but there will be no escaping the effects - all our imports are going to cost us that much more and with a resurgent OPEC fuel prices are also starting to rise.

All this translates into a rise in the cost of living and inflation.

When the Philip Hammond warned of "a post-Brexit 'rollercoaster' ride" he was guilty of a massive understatement.
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