Prisoners to the rescue!!

[Hope]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-36746444

[Brownie]

At first glance, I thought the title of this thread was:  "Pensioners to the rescue!!".  "There's hope for me yet", was my next thought.

However, "Prisoners".....
you sure you posted the right link?  I got this:
Parliament must undo Iraq war mistake - ex-MP Adam Price

[Hope]

Whoops!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36757547

My attempt to highlight and copy the link must have missed!!

[Brownie]

A great relief to me Hope!
I read it twice, the second time trying to find a reference to prisoners, and gave up (unless one considers the scenario of Tony Blair being incarcerated under guard overnight to relate to prisoners).  I thought I must have completely misunderstood what it was all about.  Anyway it need not go to waste, would be good on the Chilcott Report thread.

I'll now read the proper link.
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Read it.  Very good, it's a natural human instinct to go to someone's aid if they collapse or are taken ill and it's encouraging to know that people in prison are, most of the time, no different to the general population.  It doesn't surprise me at all but it will some others, who think all people in prison are unfeeling, violent psychopaths.

Always makes me smile when I hear folks say, "I've never met anyone who's been in prison.  Wouldn't know what to do if I did".   They may well have met an ex-prisoner and not known.  Someone is hardly likely to introduce themselves by saying, "I've just been let out of Ford after doing seven months for fraud".  We don't know the history of every person we meet.

[Hope]

Always makes me smile when I hear folks say, "I've never met anyone who's been in prison.  Wouldn't know what to do if I did".   They may well have met an ex-prisoner and not known.  Someone is hardly likely to introduce themselves by saying, "I've just been let out of Ford after doing seven months for fraud".  We don't know the history of every person we meet.

Quite agree.  I've taught young people awaiting court cases and sentencing.  I've taught ex-prisoners.

[Brownie]

OOOh, beware of talking about you have done, Hope  .

Seriously, I'm sure you'd agree most ex prisoners are indistinguishable from the rest of the population (& there are some people where you'd be surprised they haven't been in gaol!).

There but for the grace, etc., at least that's what I always think.

[Bubbles]

I suppose the idea of prisoners in prison,  generates an image of some tough nuts with no empathy for their victims.

It's nice to see something that breaks that image.

Of course people go to prison for a whole variety of reasons.

I know some ex prisoners.

It was a long time ago, they don't appear dishonest or unfeeling. I've not seen them behave in a dishonest  way towards others.

I've also encountered some very dishonest (so called respectable businessmen), who would look through their noses at an ex convict, while legally screwing their customers or taking an advantage against the vunerable. ( as long as the vunerable  can't prove it)

In some ways I think I prefer the ex convicts, at least they did their time and what they did was acknowledged to be wrong.

I think I trust the exconvicts I know, more that I trust some businessmen considered law abiding.

What really shows if someone is honest is if they keep their word to a vunerable person when their dishonesty can't be proven.

If they would manuover things to the disadvantage of the vunerable, because they could, it says it all really.

The awful thing is they don't even realise it's dishonest, or don't care.

I'd rather have an ex convict who had learned, changed his attitude, and didn't take advantage of the vunerable.

It's only the ones that get caught, that wind up in prison.

 

[Brownie]

Excellent attitude Rose, if you don't mind me saying so.
So many people look down their noses at ex-cons - they even act snobbishly towards the spouses and children of people in prison!
Makes me mad.

[Hope]

Excellent attitude Rose, if you don't mind me saying so.
So many people look down their noses at ex-cons - they even act snobbishly towards the spouses and children of people in prison!
Makes me mad.

Brownie, I know I taught such folk because 1) I worked in a Social Services Observation and Assessment Centre in the early 80s for a year, and some of the youngsters were waiting fore trial dates and even sentencing whilst i was there.  Others, on the other hand, were waiting for cases involving parents and guardians to go through various other processes.

2) I have also taught some superb folk who, had I not been made aware of this beforehand, I'd never have thought were ex-cons.

[Brownie]

I know Hope, I was joking  .  Just that I was told off a few weeks ago for talking about what I have done, I mentioned it on that thread about the lynx.  Which reminds me, I must look up the latest on the lynx.

Certainly there are plenty of cons and ex cons who are indistinguishable from anyone else.