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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #100 on: August 10, 2016, 08:10:08 PM »
Ooh I'd rather not thanks, wouldn't sleep for a year  :(.
Yet in a way that typifies what we were saying - people (some of whom would consider themselves to be at least nominally Christian), thinking they are so far above others that they are entitled to sit in judgement and condemn.   I am thankful not to be like them  ;).
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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #101 on: August 10, 2016, 09:48:45 PM »
See under Christianity, burning people.
Not to mention other philosophies, wiggi.  See Under leninism/Stalinism/Maoism/etc.  Oddly enough, though, Christianity makes no mention of burning people, though RC-ism and early Anglicanism did at one stage.
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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #102 on: August 10, 2016, 10:14:47 PM »
Not as bad as your neurosis.
No answer,  just an insult. Still since by your logic I am allowed to judge you from tiny things. It would appear... fill in blank. Indeed take the worst thing you can imagine and ask your cynical friend about it...


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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #103 on: August 10, 2016, 10:17:24 PM »
In my day we had to lick rood cleen with tong before we got a clip round  ear and sent down tu mines....but they were happy days.
Why are you misrepresenting what people have said? 

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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #104 on: August 10, 2016, 10:22:03 PM »
It was more than that. Their response to it was not normal and I got the same feeling every time they were on TV etc. years afterwards.

I'm fine thanks.

What is the normal response for having a child abducted? Present your working. Have you had a child abducted? Have you had a child?
 What is your expertise in judging what is normal? If you had expertise, would you judge people for behaving not as you define normally? Why would you do that? Is there significance to your judgement, or their behaviour? Can you evidence that ?

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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #105 on: August 10, 2016, 10:25:59 PM »
Well they seemed quite calm and composed like psychotics might.
And your qualifications for this professional judgement are?

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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #106 on: August 10, 2016, 10:44:27 PM »
I'm reluctant to discuss this matter on the forum because when previously mentioned (on a couple of occasions) a member has said he is related to the McCanns. So, although said member hasn't posted for sometime they may still be reading comments. In this respect I just feel a sense of sensitivity.
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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #107 on: August 10, 2016, 11:35:02 PM »
Sweet Pea, nice to see you.

You'll find most people on this thread are sympathetic to the McCann family.  I didn't know there was a member of R&E who was related to them and am sure the poster who started the thread didn't.  I'm sorry for them, it's very hard when an issue discussed on a forum is something that affects you personally;  I've known that to happen on forums before on a few occasions. 

If you are reluctant to discuss this matter, no-one is going to say you have to.
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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #108 on: August 11, 2016, 12:06:04 AM »
Oddly enough, though, Christianity makes no mention of burning people, though RC-ism and early Anglicanism did at one stage.
What is Rev 21.8 all about then?
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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #109 on: August 11, 2016, 12:25:27 AM »
When I quoted the Biblical passage earlier in which Jesus chides self righteous hypocrites, I was not preaching.   The sentiment expressed seemed highly appropriate at the time - and would have been equally apt had the same been expressed by Shakespeare (it might have been but I can't think of anything off hand).   So please let's not sidetrack into Christian/non-Christian argument, the gist of the quotation applies to anyone at any time when they encounter folk who are glad to have someone to look down on.

Here's something sobering for me to chew on:

“Some virtues, when they become fashions, also become exaggerated. Just because nobody likes a judgmental attitude does not mean that there isn't a sort of spoiled, self-righteous hypocrisy when one man obsessively commands other men not to judge without knowing the circumstances without himself, too, knowing their circumstances behind their judgments.”
― Criss Jami, Killosophy
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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #110 on: August 11, 2016, 06:51:13 AM »
Frozen with grief or guilty conscience?

I know which I think it is/was!

Very easy to judge people from the outside and to jump to conclusions which can to lead to great distress and issues for the people involved though isn't it.

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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #111 on: August 11, 2016, 07:35:06 AM »
It's depressing how people can be so spiteful and spread gossip.

" No smoke without fire" and all that.

The trouble is things can be completely wrong, total lies from the bottom gutter of some dregs of  people's minds, and the views that the Mcanns disposed of their daughter is malicious gossip of the worst sort.


The poster who used to post here with them as relatives, is aware anyway of what is being posted on R&E

I expect he's read it all before, and probably worse. Pity he can't be here to refute it.

To give a more knowledgable picture of how the McCanns coped privately.

But that's an intrusion on their grief and they owe us nothing, let alone to their private thoughts and griefs.

It's awful how people enjoy spreading malicious untrue gossip.

It's like they enjoy being nasty.

 :o

One website claims Madelaine was a long time victim of Satanic abuse by her parents, really sick stuff.

It shows how some people's minds work and what nastiness lies behind their facade.

Even the milder ones, that think it was an accident, I don't think it's very likely that they disposed of her body with the help of their friends.

Would you hide a child's body because she fell down the stairs?

Because I wouldn't be prepared too.

Not even for a very good friend.

Facing up to the accident would be much easier than spending years looking and pretending.

Why would anyone do that?

It's nonsense!
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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #112 on: August 11, 2016, 08:09:02 AM »
Not everyone is as perceptive as I am, so sadly it can't be utilized.
. How do you manage to get your tongue quite so far up your own arse?

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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #113 on: August 11, 2016, 09:02:30 AM »
Short answer:  he's a short-arse.

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Rose, your post sums it up accurately (imo).
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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #114 on: August 11, 2016, 10:42:45 AM »
It was more than that. Their response to it was not normal
You weren't there when they found out. You have no idea what their response to it was. By the time they were on TV they had had plenty of time to compose themselves.
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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #115 on: August 11, 2016, 11:04:34 AM »
I'm reluctant to discuss this matter on the forum because when previously mentioned (on a couple of occasions) a member has said he is related to the McCanns. So, although said member hasn't posted for sometime they may still be reading comments. In this respect I just feel a sense of sensitivity.
The member in question is currently unable to access the forum and has been unable to access the forum for some time. He is posting in the ex-BBC religion group on Facebook though.
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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #116 on: August 11, 2016, 07:17:12 PM »
No answer,  just an insult. Still since by your logic I am allowed to judge you from tiny things. It would appear... fill in blank. Indeed take the worst thing you can imagine and ask your cynical friend about it...
I see your neurosis is getting worse...

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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #117 on: August 11, 2016, 07:28:18 PM »
What is the normal response for having a child abducted? Present your working. Have you had a child abducted? Have you had a child?
 What is your expertise in judging what is normal? If you had expertise, would you judge people for behaving not as you define normally? Why would you do that? Is there significance to your judgement, or their behaviour? Can you evidence that ?
Well, my neoteric friend, it was just a personal assessment. Reactions to these traumas vary widely but that was not what I was commenting on. I was referring to an underlining disposition which in essence are ineffable to convey fully.

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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #118 on: August 11, 2016, 07:41:28 PM »
And your qualifications for this professional judgement are?
More so than yours.

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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #119 on: August 11, 2016, 07:46:47 PM »
. How do you manage to get your tongue quite so far up your own arse?
Your neurosis has taken a turn for the worst. Real infantile issues here, NS.

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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #120 on: August 11, 2016, 07:55:46 PM »
You weren't there when they found out. You have no idea what their response to it was. By the time they were on TV they had had plenty of time to compose themselves.
I'm not talking about what people see on the 'surface'. We're talking unconscious factor here.

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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #121 on: August 11, 2016, 08:06:47 PM »
Well, my neoteric friend, it was just a personal assessment. Reactions to these traumas vary widely but that was not what I was commenting on. I was referring to an underlining disposition which in essence are ineffable to convey fully.
A number of words which say you have no justification or evidence.

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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #122 on: August 11, 2016, 08:09:25 PM »
JK,

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I'm not talking about what people see on the 'surface'. We're talking unconscious factor here.

You can read people's unconscious minds?

Blimey!
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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #123 on: August 11, 2016, 08:36:58 PM »
Your neurosis has taken a turn for the worst. Real infantile issues here, NS.
so you gave no evidence, ah well.

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Re: Should this not have happened long ago?
« Reply #124 on: August 11, 2016, 08:39:34 PM »
More so than yours.
I'm not making claims as you are. My qualifications are irrelevant, your's are relevant. Do you have any relevant ones?