Brexit Brands

[jeremyp]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-36970535

It's just a fluff piece, but it seems ironic that the top brand of Brexit: "an iconic brand representing a powerful image of British democracy" is made in Holland.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-36970535

It's just a fluff piece, but it seems ironic that the top brand of Brexit: "an iconic brand representing a powerful image of British democracy" is made in Holland.

Preferred Brexit Brands
Twat soup
C***flakes
Arse jet
Wan***s sauce
McNumpty's oven chips

[Harrowby Hall]

Preferred Brexit Brands
Twat soup
C***flakes
Arse jet
Wan***s sauce
McNumpty's oven chips

Does Nurse Ratched know that you've been at the computer again?

Although I broadly agree with your viewpoint, infantile outbursts like this do nothing to advance discussion.

[Harrowby Hall]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-36970535

It's just a fluff piece, but it seems ironic that the top brand of Brexit: "an iconic brand representing a powerful image of British democracy" is made in Holland.

It reflects a view, espoused by the Conservatives, that "Britain is up for sale" - a view that might horrify Brexiteers. And the appropriate number, in this case, is ... 57.

[SqueakyVoice]

The last episode of series 3 of Dave Gorman's Modern Life is Goddish looked at yougov polls and whether they mean much.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Gorman:_Modern_Life_is_Goodish

That said, I'm more intrigued by the top two remain brands both being the BBC, whereas leave voters seem to be trying to extract news from ITV and Sky. Which seems like trying to get blood out of a stone that's just been attacked by a cloud of mosquitoes and a vampire.

[ippy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-36970535

It's just a fluff piece, but it seems ironic that the top brand of Brexit: "an iconic brand representing a powerful image of British democracy" is made in Holland.

Had a look at the list of brands and wondered how many of them are still British owned, I can't quite remember but I think you'll find HP sauce is no longer British owned.

ippy   

[Harrowby Hall]

Had a look at the list of brands and wondered how many of them are still British owned, I can't quite remember but I think you'll find HP sauce is no longer British owned.

ippy

As I said above. The magic number is 57. HP sauce is owned by Heinz.

[Hope]

It reflects a view, espoused by the Conservatives, that "Britain is up for sale" - a view that might horrify Brexiteers. And the appropriate number, in this case, is ... 57.

If I remember correctly, at least as many British firms have been sold abroad on Labour's watch as anyone else's.

[jeremyp]

Had a look at the list of brands and wondered how many of them are still British owned, I can't quite remember but I think you'll find HP sauce is no longer British owned.

ippy

Yep, I think you'll find that the fact that Heinz owns it was mentioned up thread and also, of course, I said it is made in Holland.

[jeremyp]

It reflects a view, espoused by the Conservatives, that "Britain is up for sale"

Cab you give me a link to a Conservative espousing that Britain is up for sale?

[SteveH]

I doubt if this survey proveas anything, but it's interesting that most of the Brexit brands are physical things that you can buy in shops, whereas all the Remainers' brands are services.

[jeremyp]

I doubt if this survey proveas anything, but it's interesting that most of the Brexit brands are physical things that you can buy in shops, whereas all the Remainers' brands are services.

ITV and Sky are physical things?

[ippy]

ITV and Sky are physical things?

All the time Sky is in the hands of the Murdock's, however you spell this name, I won't knowingly be having anything to do with it.

ippy 

[Aruntraveller]

All the time Sky is in the hands of the Murdock's, however you spell this name, I won't knowingly be having anything to do with it.

ippy

And yet interestingly you sit on the same side of the fence when it comes to the EU. Strange bedfellows it maketh of us all.

[Harrowby Hall]

Cab you give me a link to a Conservative espousing that Britain is up for sale?

It actually goes back a long way to the time when much of our infrastructure was sold off. A Spanish company bought BAA and so now owns Heathrow. Most of power generation and distribution as well as water supply is in the hands of foreign companies, as is railway operation.

Foreign "investors" were not prevented from buying Cadbury shares when Kraft made its bid. These "investors" made substantial capital gains as the Cadbury price increased and then willingly sold to Kraft - thereby removing another British asset from British control.

Motley Fool says Britain is up for sale.

[jeremyp]

It actually goes back a long way to the time when much of our infrastructure was sold off. A Spanish company bought BAA and so now owns Heathrow.

In 2006 when Labour was in charge.

Most of power generation and distribution as well as water supply is in the hands of foreign companies, as is railway operation.

Foreign "investors" were not prevented from buying Cadbury shares when Kraft made its bid. These "investors" made substantial capital gains as the Cadbury price increased and then willingly sold to Kraft - thereby removing another British asset from British control.

Motley Fool says Britain is up for sale.

All very well but when did the Tories espouse sell off Britain?

[Harrowby Hall]

It started in 1969 when Geoffrey Howe removed restrictions on foreign ownership.

You might like to read the following, even though it comes from the dreadful Daily Mail I see no reason to doubt the accuracy of its content. It possibly puts Mrs May's concerns about Chinese involvement with Hinckley Point into some context.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2129507

[Gonnagle]

Dear Jeremyp,

All very well but when did the Tories espouse sell off Britain?

It's in their DNA old son, the Tories will sell yer Granny if it means no more government involvement, they call it monetarism or little government, and guess what! it doesn't work, why! two things, greed and short term profit.

Dear Harrowby,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2129507

Still, the outlook isn’t all bleak: bankers and foreign shareholders are doing just fine.

Interesting article, puts quite a lot of Jack Knaves arguments into perspective ( I am still against brexit ) and one of his arguments is that banks are running the world, there might be some truth in that.

Gonnagle.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Harrowby,

You might like to read the following, even though it comes from the dreadful Daily Mail I see no reason to doubt the accuracy of its content. It possibly puts Mrs May's concerns about Chinese involvement with Hinckley Point into some context.

Just a bit of info, there was a expert on all things Chinese on Radio Scotland this morning, the reason that the Chinese want to invest in Hinckley is so that they can get a foothold, the Chinese don't want our exports ( according to this expert, we have nothing they want ) but they do want to invest in this country and build more nuclear power stations ( something they are supposedly very good at ) she also said that the consensus of opinion in China is that GB is a small backwater country, no longer a big player in the world market.

If this lady is halfway right then leaving the EU is one of the worst moves we ever did, who wants to trade with a little island nation when they have the whole of the EU to trade with.

Gonnagle.

[jeremyp]

So I see lots of accusations that the Tories espoused "sell off Britain" but no actual evidence.

[Harrowby Hall]

So I see lots of accusations that the Tories espoused "sell off Britain" but no actual evidence.

As I say to the JWs when they knock on my door: "We'd be wasting each other's time." Sometimes, they even get the hint.

[Harrowby Hall]

If this lady is halfway right then leaving the EU is one of the worst moves we ever did, who wants to trade with a little island nation when they have the whole of the EU to trade with.

Dear Gonners

This is precisely my concern. We could well end up as the Argentina of Europe.

[ippy]

And yet interestingly you sit on the same side of the fence when it comes to the EU. Strange bedfellows it maketh of us all.

I dare say there's quite a few things Murdock and I would agree about, but that doesn't excuse his lack of decent ethics or morals.

Although Hitler built his motorways, I dare say, mainly for troop movements etc, I still think they were a very good idea, does that maketh me a good bedfellow with Hitler?

I found your comment a little off, but there if it pleases you.

ippy

[Aruntraveller]

I dare say there's quite a few things Murdock and I would agree about, but that doesn't excuse his lack of decent ethics or morals.

Although Hitler built his motorways, I dare say, mainly for troop movements etc, I still think they were a very good idea, does that maketh me a good bedfellow with Hitler?

I found your comment a little off, but there if it pleases you.

ippy

Apologies if it sounded off - it was just a random thought. I, for example, find It uncomfortable that I have Jeremy Clarkson and the ex-chancellor agreeing with me.

[ippy]

Apologies if it sounded off - it was just a random thought. I, for example, find It uncomfortable that I have Jeremy Clarkson and the ex-chancellor agreeing with me.

Not a problem, sorry but I can't help being delighted with the ref result, I can't see why we can't still be close friends with the rest of Europe whatever they wish to call themselves and I'm sure we will still be able to swap citizens, all be it selectivly, which I see as being sensible for one, amongst lots of other reasons for not being federated with them.

I do wish Europe well and we're not exactly renown for not being able to survive on our own, we'll gradually pull around as the dust settles.

I must admit I might have voted for stay if they all swaped over to driving on the left.

ippy