Human Rights Act

[Nearly Sane]

Bit busy herding the grandchildren around just at the moment, but I haven't heard anything on the news or seen anything in the headlines.

Possibly because it's govt minister says govt at some point  will carry out govt policy. It was covered in the run up to the GE as well.

[L.A.]

Possibly because it's govt minister says goat some point they will carry out govt policy. It was covered in the run up to the GE as well.

I know that the idea has been 'kicked-around' for some time, but it never sounded as if the government ware actually going to do anything about it. Maybe May has resurrected it as a concession to the Brexiteers?

[Nearly Sane]

I know that the idea has been 'kicked-around' for some time, but it never sounded as if the government ware actually going to do anything about it. Maybe May has resurrected it as a concession to the Brexiteers?

Given that some talked of the ECHR as if it was to do with the EU, who knows.

[L.A.]

Given that some talked of the ECHR as if it was to do with the EU, who knows.

It was certainly 'bound-up' with the EU in the minds of many.

[Nearly Sane]

It was certainly 'bound-up' with the EU in the minds of many.

indeed, people are often wrong, but I think the confusion by some on Brexit side was deliberate.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Trent,

Thank you for highlighting this, I have signed the petition, more smoke and mirrors from the Tories, I hope it reaches its target and that it will be debated in the HoC.

Gonnagle.

[Hope]

I know that the idea has been 'kicked-around' for some time, but it never sounded as if the government ware actually going to do anything about it. Maybe May has resurrected it as a concession to the Brexiteers?

But it hasn't been resurrected in the last few months.  It's been being discussed at various levels for over a year now, and long before the term 'Brexit' was coined, LA.

[Nearly Sane]

But it hasn't been resurrected in the last few months.  It's been being discussed at various levels for over a year now, and long before the term 'Brexit' was coined, LA.

And nothing to do with Brexit. We were signatories before the EEC existed.

[Hope]

And nothing to do with Brexit. We were signatories before the EEC existed.

Seconded, NS.  The sooner that people get out of the habit of 'blaming' the EU for the European Human Rights Act or the ECHR the better.  Yes, it has been respoonsible for some pretty hairy situations and things - such as nigh-on 20-years' of unsigned-off annual accounts, but ...

[Bubbles]

I am surprised and angered that there has not been more of an outcry about this in the media and from the public about this:

http://www.thecanary.co/2016/08/25/this-is-the-bombshell-dropped-by-theresa-mays-government-while-the-media-whined-on-about-traingate/

Have we become so apathetic that we are willing not to simply give away our freedoms but to even not realise it is happening.

There is a petition to sign if you do care here:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/125604

This isn't something created by Brexit, this has been suggested at least three years ago that the gov wanted to ditch the human rights act.

I remember feeling appalled at the time.

This is something from 2015

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3220763/Scrapping-Human-Rights-Act-Britain-level-Putin-s-Russia-claims-European-Union.html

[jeremyp]

I know that the idea has been 'kicked-around' for some time, but it never sounded as if the government ware actually going to do anything about it. Maybe May has resurrected it as a concession to the Brexiteers?

It occurs to me that nothing will be done about it because Parliament is going to be spending the next twenty years unwinding all the EU legislation.

[L.A.]

But it hasn't been resurrected in the last few months.  It's been being discussed at various levels for over a year now, and long before the term 'Brexit' was coined, LA.

I am perfectly well aware that it has been discussed for some time but the government seemed to acknowledge that there were problems and seemed reluctant to act. However, the two issues became 'entwined' by the tabloids and opportunistic Brexit politicians.  There was an argument that we could never repeal the UK Human Rights Act as long as we were members of the EU. Obviously, if we leave the EU that problem disappears.

[Hope]

There was an argument that we could never repeal the UK Human Rights Act as long as we were members of the EU.

Have to admit to having never seen or heard that argument, LA.

[L.A.]

Have to admit to having never seen or heard that argument, LA.

I'm afraid I can't give you a source at this minute, but I have a distinct memory of it coming-up in a discussion on Radio 4.

[L.A.]

Have to admit to having never seen or heard that argument, LA.

Good old Google, I think this is the one I had in mind:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04ykd7m


It seems quite a balanced debate on the issue that is still quite valid today.

[Hope]

Good old Google, I think this is the one I had in mind:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04ykd7m


It seems quite a balanced debate on the issue that is still quite valid today.

Thanks for that, L.A.  Can't say that i was taking much interest in things political at that point in time (mid- to late-January 2015)  I was too busy recovering from my heart problems.  I'll give it a listen later.