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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2050 on: July 29, 2018, 02:41:30 PM »
The problem here is that you have both abandoned righteousness and then profess it as if you have read every detail...This scientific point cannot be rubbished...even though I'm sure you will...

You haven't made a scientific point and as for righteousness, it's not me that's peddling falsehoods and trying to deceive people, it's you. You are pretending to understand science and using its terms with zero understanding.

Another powerful scientific principle is that tyrants and bullies have found it necessary to deceive the masses...

Deceiving "the masses" is what you are trying to do with your pretend science.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2051 on: July 29, 2018, 02:44:37 PM »

There is nothing Christian about your nonsense, it is created by you and has nothing to do with what is actually in the Bible.

You have to read the Holy Bible and study it to know if that is true Littleroses...but...I'm afraid, you have been immersed in the teachings of the bogus Christians and it is their false teachings you are really repulsed over.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2052 on: July 29, 2018, 03:01:11 PM »
You haven't made a scientific point and as for righteousness, it's not me that's peddling falsehoods and trying to deceive people, it's you. You are pretending to understand science and using its terms with zero understanding.

Deceiving "the masses" is what you are trying to do with your pretend science.

I've said before Stranger that dissing everything I say isn't proving a point, it is showing us whose side you are on and it isn't Jesus Christ's.

I think it is quite fantastic to identify, through the Holy Bible, a hidden, invisible, indestructible, superabundant force, which, when linked with the two universal dimensions clearly expressed in the Holy Bible and proven by solid scientific reasoning, offers us 'the science of everything'...a science that Almighty God and his son Jesus Christ have been telling us about for many generations...long before science had any teeth at all.

Here is the beauty of a wonderful universal science...it will not go away. I can go away...but the science won't...so it is  perhaps best to put your chin to the grindstone, repent, and do what is necessary, Stranger, to make your peace with Almighty God and Jesus Christ, before it is too late.

Remember...I only proffer the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ...and it is up to the Christians themselves to decipher exactly what that means...but I can help...it means going back to the original teaching of the seven churches in Asia.




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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2053 on: July 29, 2018, 03:01:57 PM »
You have to read the Holy Bible and study it to know if that is true Littleroses...but...I'm afraid, you have been immersed in the teachings of the bogus Christians and it is their false teachings you are really repulsed over.

I have read that book since I was a child and still do so. Why do you think your interpretation of it is correct and that of others is not? Have you ever stopped to think for one second you might be barking up the wrong tree? Whilst it is possible a god of some sort could exist, I think the Biblical god is a very human creation, but I have enough sense to realise I could be wrong.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2054 on: July 29, 2018, 03:19:54 PM »
I've said before Stranger that dissing everything I say isn't proving a point, it is showing us whose side you are on and it isn't Jesus Christ's.

You really think the Jesus character in the bible you support somebody who spreads falsehoods and pretends to have knowledge that they don't?

I think it is quite fantastic to identify, through the Holy Bible, a hidden, invisible, indestructible, superabundant force, which, when linked with the two universal dimensions clearly expressed in the Holy Bible...

Falsehood. You're not getting your bullshit from the bible (yes, I have read it) any more than from science.

...and proven by solid scientific reasoning, offers us 'the science of everything'...a science that Almighty God and his son Jesus Christ have been telling us about for many generations...

Falsehood.

Here is the beauty of a wonderful universal science...it will not go away.  I can go away...but the science won't...

Yes, something that doesn't exist in the first place can hardly go away.

...so it is  perhaps best to put your chin to the grindstone, repent, and do what is necessary, Stranger, to make your peace with Almighty God and Jesus Christ, before it is too late.

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If you think you have an important message why devalue it by pretending to understand science, when you so obviously don't? Nobody who understands any science is going to be fooled by you, so they will automatically disregard everything else you say.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2055 on: July 29, 2018, 04:55:25 PM »

Littleroses/Stranger...

I feel a bit like John must have felt when he ate the contents of the little scroll...In his mouth it was very sweet but in his belly it was exceedingly bitter. You aren't applying yourselves to my science...which, of course, is really God's science. That has no impact upon me but on you it will, according to the Book you both claim to read but rubbish with great glee.

I have shown you how all the calculations of physics, chemistry, electricity and magnetic force were obtained by showing you that there wasn't a big-bang, as such, but a clever redistribution of energy that required Almighty God, himself, to fathom out, and he, through his son, Jesus Christ has made sure that we have that same knowledge at our disposal so that we can build our lives on solid spiritual laws instead of the accidental and manipulative laws of Satan, who seeks to destroy everything righteous.

Notice how much of today's sciences are built upon the shoulders of Christian scientists who used the grace of God to devote their Christian freedom in finding these things out...yet today, the same sciences are followed and built upon by scurrilous scientists who deny the existence of the God who delivered those sciencess through his adherents in the first place. This is the same with all institutions...devised by right thinkers then bullyingly snatched out of their hands by Satan's cohorts.

But we have all got to reconsider our position now, because these same bullying scientists know that Wormwood isn't so very far off.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2056 on: July 29, 2018, 04:58:24 PM »
There isn't any science in your posts to 'own' and it's definitely you, rather than some god, who's posting falsehoods about science here.

So you extracted this bullshit from the body of someone who died 2000 years ago? Somehow I don't think so.

And this further stream of gibberish justifies you posting plainly false claims about science, does it?


Sorry, have to butt in.
Wormwood comes across as a confused little devil.
Not as  nasty as Screwtape........

Waits for NM to come up with evidence............
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2057 on: July 29, 2018, 05:04:48 PM »
Each of NM's posts is even dafter than the previous one, and that is saying something! ::)
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2058 on: July 29, 2018, 05:10:45 PM »
Sorry, have to butt in.
Wormwood comes across as a confused little devil.
Not as  nasty as Screwtape........

Waits for NM to come up with evidence............

Wormwood is a celestial body which is coming towards us and is thought to cause and is causing massive interference with this planet. It is prophesied in Revelation so you must argue your point directly with Almighty God, Anchorman. The governments around the world appear to be playing it down whist preparing for it with great haste. If you were looking for the signs instead of playing devils advocate you would be seeing these things yourself but fortunately it isn't to late to see your errors...just read and follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ...as he, himself taught us, and the science will blossom within you...as well.

 

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2059 on: July 29, 2018, 05:15:48 PM »
Each of NM's posts is even dafter than the previous one, and that is saying something! ::)

That's just one of the problems when delivering a wonderful righteous truth to a closed mind Littleroses...but, if you allow righteousness to work within you you will realise that it is your closed mind that is at the root of many of your problems...and don't say you have no problems because invalidating our own resurrection is one of our biggest problems at the moment.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2060 on: July 29, 2018, 05:17:46 PM »
Wormwood is a celestial body which is coming towards us and is thought to cause and is causing massive interference with this planet. It is prophesied in Revelation so you must argue your point directly with Almighty God, Anchorman. The governments around the world appear to be playing it down whist preparing for it with great haste. If you were looking for the signs instead of playing devils advocate you would be seeing these things yourself but fortunately it isn't to late to see your errors...just read and follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ...as he, himself taught us, and the science will blossom within you...as well.

 


Oh, dearie me....your ignorance is showing - not for the firat time.
Can I strongly suggest you read the following books:
"The Screwtape letters"
and "Wormwood replies";
both by C.S. Lewis?
And, while you're at it, have a shuftie at "Mere Christianity" while you're at it.
Yes, there may be some flaws in his arguments, but if you want a reasonable, and logical -within its' own sphere - argument for basic apologetics, NM, you can't go far wrong.
Plus the first two are deliciously funny as well as theologically thought provoking.....two qualities, which, alongside your knowledge of science and theology and inability to provide a shred of peer reviewed science to back your ideas up, you demonstrate an extreme scarcity of in posting.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2061 on: July 29, 2018, 05:27:07 PM »
That's just one of the problems when delivering a wonderful righteous truth to a closed mind Littleroses...but, if you allow righteousness to work within you you will realise that it is your closed mind that is at the root of many of your problems...and don't say you have no problems because invalidating our own resurrection is one of our biggest problems at the moment.


Talking of closed minds, it appears yours has the all the hatches battened down. You and Trump seem to come out of the same mould, are you both for real?
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2062 on: July 29, 2018, 05:27:53 PM »
Some alternative views on Wormwood ...... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormwood_(Bible)

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2063 on: July 29, 2018, 05:35:32 PM »
That has no impact upon me but on you it will, according to the Book you both claim to read but rubbish with great glee.

What you are saying has nothing to do with the bible. In this instance I'm rubbishing what you are saying, not the bible. Although the bible is inconsistent, often contradictory, and contains no clear message, it makes a great deal more sense than you do.

I have shown you how all the calculations of physics, chemistry, electricity and magnetic force were obtained...

Falsehood. You haven't even shown how a single such calculation is obtained, let alone all of them.

A calculation (in terms of science) means mathematics. Showing how they are obtained requires exact, numerical evidence, hypothesis construction (equations), predictions and further (exact, numerical) evidence from experiments or observations that confirm the predictions.

Not meaningless bullshit like this:

...by showing you that there wasn't a big-bang, as such, but a clever redistribution of energy that required Almighty God, himself, to fathom out, and he, through his son, Jesus Christ has made sure that we have that same knowledge at our disposal so that we can build our lives on solid spiritual laws instead of the accidental and manipulative laws of Satan, who seeks to destroy everything righteous.

Notice how much of today's sciences are built upon the shoulders of Christian scientists who used the grace of God to devote their Christian freedom in finding these things out...yet today, the same sciences are followed and built upon by scurrilous scientists who deny the existence of the God who delivered those sciencess through his adherents in the first place. This is the same with all institutions...devised by right thinkers then bullyingly snatched out of their hands by Satan's cohorts.

But we have all got to reconsider our position now, because these same bullying scientists know that Wormwood isn't so very far off.
Wormwood is a celestial body which is coming towards us and is thought to cause and is causing massive interference with this planet.

I guess it's pointless asking for some actual evidence of this?

The governments around the world appear to be playing it down whist preparing for it with great haste.

Evidence?         ::)
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2064 on: July 29, 2018, 05:38:39 PM »
Some alternative views on Wormwood ...... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormwood_(Bible)

FYI links ending  in brackets get broken unless you put them in [url]...[/url] tags (select the link and use the globe button, second row on the left).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormwood_(Bible)
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2065 on: July 29, 2018, 05:48:21 PM »
Littleroses/Stranger...

I feel a bit like John must have felt when he ate the contents of the little scroll...In his mouth it was very sweet but in his belly it was exceedingly bitter. You aren't applying yourselves to my science...which, of course, is really God's science. That has no impact upon me but on you it will, according to the Book you both claim to read but rubbish with great glee.

Liar.

It is your ridiculous unscientific unscriptural posturing that people are rubbishing.  Of course you understand that, but to be honest or respectful with people is not a priority with you it seems.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2066 on: July 29, 2018, 05:55:52 PM »
I get the impression that the only book of the Bible which NM has read is Revelation, which nearly didn't get included in it.  It is open to many interpretations, most of which are surreal, but NM's twaddle takes it to an entirely new level of bunkum.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2067 on: July 29, 2018, 07:09:30 PM »

Littleroses/Stranger/Anchorman/ekim/torri...

I know it's hard when your own little bubble bursts...but think of it this way...All those victims in Gosport...all those violated in the Catholic orphanages...all those who have been deceived by unscrupulous dealings...all those who have turned to Jesus Christ for help in their most tragic times...times attributable to men doing devious things against innocent people...they will all be dealt with in one fowl swoop...in the twinkling of an eye...and that moment is recorded in Revelation 21:8.

Now, there is no harm in telling you how to be saved, but it could be greatly harmful if you refuse to listen. This is what Jesus Christ tells us...Though he has been our saviour from the day of his resurrection...he is certainly our saviour now, in our darkest hours...and resurrection with a wonderful science to support it is well worth exploring...but explore it quickly because Wormwood has no brakes.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2068 on: July 29, 2018, 07:45:06 PM »
Littleroses/Stranger/Anchorman/ekim/torri...

I know it's hard when your own little bubble bursts...but think of it this way...All those victims in Gosport...all those violated in the Catholic orphanages...all those who have been deceived by unscrupulous dealings...all those who have turned to Jesus Christ for help in their most tragic times...times attributable to men doing devious things against innocent people...they will all be dealt with in one fowl swoop...in the twinkling of an eye...and that moment is recorded in Revelation 21:8.

Now, there is no harm in telling you how to be saved, but it could be greatly harmful if you refuse to listen. This is what Jesus Christ tells us...Though he has been our saviour from the day of his resurrection...he is certainly our saviour now, in our darkest hours...and resurrection with a wonderful science to support it is well worth exploring...but explore it quickly because Wormwood has no brakes.

Its fell swoop not fowl swoop.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2069 on: July 29, 2018, 07:48:42 PM »
Littleroses/Stranger/Anchorman/ekim/torri...

I know it's hard when your own little bubble bursts...but think of it this way...All those victims in Gosport...all those violated in the Catholic orphanages...all those who have been deceived by unscrupulous dealings...all those who have turned to Jesus Christ for help in their most tragic times...times attributable to men doing devious things against innocent people...they will all be dealt with in one fowl swoop...in the twinkling of an eye...and that moment is recorded in Revelation 21:8.

Now, there is no harm in telling you how to be saved, but it could be greatly harmful if you refuse to listen. This is what Jesus Christ tells us...Though he has been our saviour from the day of his resurrection...he is certainly our saviour now, in our darkest hours...and resurrection with a wonderful science to support it is well worth exploring...but explore it quickly because Wormwood has no brakes.




I'm simply giving you advice, NM.
You mentioned Wormnwood.
Admittedly he's a character in a CS Lewis book, but, hey, seriously; you'd do well to take time and read the stuff - especially "Screwtape" and "Mere Christianity".
Although slightly dated, they are foundation texts for anyoe setting out on apologetics.
In his albiet quirky way, Lewis's books have led thousands to commit to Christ. How many have you, in your pseudoscientific jargon fest witterings led?
Seriouisly?
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2070 on: July 29, 2018, 07:53:46 PM »
I know it's hard when your own little bubble bursts...

Is that why you never allow yourself to learn anything?

Now, there is no harm in telling you how to be saved, but it could be greatly harmful if you refuse to listen.

But you're not telling us how to be saved, you're dishonesty pretending to know something about science, when you obviously don't, spouting meaningless bullshit, blatant falsehoods, and evidence-free claims about this wormwood "celestial body" of yours.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2071 on: July 30, 2018, 06:45:55 AM »

Now, there is no harm in telling you how to be saved, but it could be greatly harmful if you refuse to listen. This is what Jesus Christ tells us...Though he has been our saviour from the day of his resurrection...he is certainly our saviour now, in our darkest hours...and resurrection with a wonderful science to support it is well worth exploring...but explore it quickly because Wormwood has no brakes.

If there is a God then we are OK, a heavenly father will do whatever needs to be done to rescue his children if they are in danger and it will be nothing to do with us trying to believe your scientifically illiterate drivel. 

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2072 on: July 30, 2018, 11:06:44 AM »
If there is a God then we are OK, a heavenly father will do whatever needs to be done to rescue his children if they are in danger and it will be nothing to do with us trying to believe your scientifically illiterate drivel.

That is true, up to a certain point torri, the key word being...his...His children listen to his word and are not guided by wolves in sheep clothing. Revelation 21:8 clearly defines those who Almighty God is at odds with and these he will not save. They can however repent and be saved which means there is sufficient time left to harness a righteous spirit...but...be warned...the no hopers will do everything in their power to prevent you. Taking in the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ is a guarantee devoid of chance...and the science just confirms that fact.




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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2073 on: July 30, 2018, 11:35:36 AM »
...and the science just confirms that fact.

Untrue.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2074 on: July 30, 2018, 11:59:23 AM »
That is true, up to a certain point torri, the key word being...his...His children listen to his word and are not guided by wolves in sheep clothing. Revelation 21:8 clearly defines those who Almighty God is at odds with and these he will not save. They can however repent and be saved which means there is sufficient time left to harness a righteous spirit...but...be warned...the no hopers will do everything in their power to prevent you. Taking in the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ is a guarantee devoid of chance...and the science just confirms that fact.

Evidently you don't believe Revelation 21 or you would not be spending your days posting up unsubstantiated nonsense to try intimidate and belittle people on the Internet.  Your own worst enemy, you are.