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NicholasMarks

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #925 on: October 05, 2016, 10:10:10 PM »

Seb Toe...

Just for you Seb...I've only watched 20 mins so far but towards the end of that period he starts to tell you of the latest concept of physics that I have been flogging here, much to your ridicule...but I got my version directly from the Holy Bible whilst this engineer, scientist, astronomer, mathematician, does it using science....bringing into the equation calculations of Biblical proofs.

Now I know you wont bother watching it the same as you don't bother reading the Holy Bible but you will certainly want to share your ridicule for this one with us as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6ftTm34xfk


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #926 on: October 05, 2016, 10:23:41 PM »
Blah blah blah
The astronauts who were witness to actually visiting the moon. Some of them Christians, we're they telling lies about their experiences?
OOH did the truth hurt you on the other thread?

Not the same thing at all. Do you often clutch straws in desperation.
Because you are looking desperate right now.  :o
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #927 on: October 05, 2016, 10:33:11 PM »
That's not quite right.  Theism is a fairly modern belief system and the notion of a single god dates only from the Bronze Age.  For the most part, humans have been animists, belief in spirits, not quite the same thing.

The oldest monotheist religion is over 1 millions years old. It is a Chinese religion.
Need to do your homework.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #928 on: October 05, 2016, 10:51:19 PM »
The oldest monotheist religion is over 1 millions years old. It is a Chinese religion.
Need to do your homework.

Humans have not existed for a million years!
I see gullible people, everywhere!

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #929 on: October 05, 2016, 11:26:14 PM »
Humans have not existed for a million years!

WELL! I didn't set the time limit or decide at what specific time in history they used certain metals to make objects for every day usage.

It is like so many things they tell you in these ages that you have no way of knowing if true.
But we start with who we are and what we have now. Doesn't make much difference because it is all faith, isn't it.  You choose what to believe.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #930 on: October 06, 2016, 12:00:12 AM »
OOH did the truth hurt you on the other thread?

Not the same thing at all. Do you often clutch straws in desperation.
Because you are looking desperate right now.  :o
And you are looking even more stupid than usual!  ::)
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #931 on: October 06, 2016, 12:01:00 AM »
WELL! I didn't set the time limit or decide at what specific time in history they used certain metals to make objects for every day usage.

It is like so many things they tell you in these ages that you have no way of knowing if true.
But we start with who we are and what we have now. Doesn't make much difference because it is all faith, isn't it.  You choose what to believe.

No. You do not choose what to believe you cannot do that.

I think you have been told that before?
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #932 on: October 06, 2016, 02:44:37 AM »
The word 'electric' is definitely not to be found in the Bible!

Faith can be electrifying though, floo.

Is that the same book that instructs us to kill women who aren't virgins on their nights?

Never heard that one  :o, I'll look it up.  Didn't know there were special nights for virgins either, are they like : 'Over twenty-one's' and 'Grab a granny' nights?
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #933 on: October 06, 2016, 03:27:25 AM »
Faith can be electrifying though, floo.

Never heard that one  :o, I'll look it up.  Didn't know there were special nights for virgins either, are they like : 'Over twenty-one's' and 'Grab a granny' nights?
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #934 on: October 06, 2016, 06:42:58 AM »
The oldest monotheist religion is over 1 millions years old. It is a Chinese religion.
Need to do your homework.

No you need to do your homework Sassernach. Humans have not been fully modern human for that long, mostly a figure of 200,000 years is now widely accepted, and even so we haven't been in China that long, the migrations out of Africa into Asia were around 50,000 years ago.  The oldest monotheist religion developed out of earlier forms of Judaism around 6th century BC, although others hold that Zoroastrianism or Akhenaten's Sun God have valid claims to be the oldest. The start of the drift away from polytheism and animism is probably marked by the agricultural revolution when we humans began to lose our intimate and wide connections with nature, becoming separate from it by living in villages.  Hence mythologies like the Garden of Eden that might reference ancient folk memories of the halcyon days when our hunter gatherer ancestors simply went and found food in the forest, and were not tied to the land labouring all year round to grow it.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #935 on: October 06, 2016, 08:32:04 AM »
Electric is used by me to denote a deeper, more modern meaning to our spiritual nature...Floo and I think I have justified this point by showing how the universe is a by product of that electric/spiritual nature which Jesus tells us about and by which he states clearly...God is a Spirit.

So spiritual laws require special spiritual observance if we want to follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ...you don't want to Floo...your  choice but I feel that is sad for reasons mentioned elsewhere in other posts.

All you have done NM is to state how you see things from your perspective. I see it differently due to my experiences,. Until there is evidence to support any faith position, or lack of it, such matters can only be a matter of opinion.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #936 on: October 06, 2016, 09:10:00 AM »
All you have done NM is to state how you see things from your perspective. I see it differently due to my experiences,. Until there is evidence to support any faith position, or lack of it, such matters can only be a matter of opinion.

The evidence is already in front of you Floo but you have made yourself unreceptive to it. That will always be a shame for reasons mentioned elsewhere.

Remember, truth is always truth wherher you believe it or not.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #937 on: October 06, 2016, 09:33:29 AM »
The evidence is already in front of you Floo but you have made yourself unreceptive to it. That will always be a shame for reasons mentioned elsewhere.

Remember, truth is always truth wherher you believe it or not.

NM, your 'truth' is not my truth. There is NO verifiable evidence, what you regard as evidence cannot be substantiated.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #938 on: October 06, 2016, 09:54:46 AM »
The evidence is already in front of you Floo but you have made yourself unreceptive to it. That will always be a shame for reasons mentioned elsewhere.

Remember, truth is always truth wherher you believe it or not.

I doubt you have a monopoly on truth Nick; maybe you have a habit of disregarding the testimony of people whose experience does not chime with yours.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #939 on: October 06, 2016, 10:09:18 AM »
NM, your 'truth' is not my truth. There is NO verifiable evidence, what you regard as evidence cannot be substantiated.

The evidence is indisputeable. If you wiggle your big toe you fire many electric impulses through your body...that energy has to come from somewhere. Now, you can follow the chemical route which will lead to the atomic route, which will lead you to the solar pathway to find the original  source for that energy...but, first Jesus Christ and now modern physics are saying that that energy is all around us all the time. A free energy which science wants to harness to make more useless things whilst Jesus, 2000 years ago taught us how to harness it for our own health and welfare....under the auspices  of his father.

Clearly then, if you have a blockage against Jesus Christ you have a blockage against modern science because they are both saying the same thing from their own  different perspectives. But Jesus got their first and seems to have a much wider depth of knowledge on the subject.



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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #940 on: October 06, 2016, 10:43:43 AM »
The evidence is indisputeable. If you wiggle your big toe you fire many electric impulses through your body...that energy has to come from somewhere. Now, you can follow the chemical route which will lead to the atomic route, which will lead you to the solar pathway to find the original  source for that energy...but, first Jesus Christ and now modern physics are saying that that energy is all around us all the time. A free energy which science wants to harness to make more useless things whilst Jesus, 2000 years ago taught us how to harness it for our own health and welfare....under the auspices  of his father.

Clearly then, if you have a blockage against Jesus Christ you have a blockage against modern science because they are both saying the same thing from their own  different perspectives. But Jesus got their first and seems to have a much wider depth of knowledge on the subject.

What has wiggling my big toe got to do with Jesus? Your mind seems to make connections where there are none, imo!

I will say this though, although I disagree with almost everything you say where matters of faith are concerned, I regard you as one of the good guys. :) You don't lose it when others disagree with you like some others would do. Oh and you really liven up this forum. :)

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #941 on: October 06, 2016, 11:01:27 AM »
The evidence is indisputeable. If you wiggle your big toe you fire many electric impulses through your body...that energy has to come from somewhere. Now, you can follow the chemical route which will lead to the atomic route, which will lead you to the solar pathway to find the original  source for that energy...but, first Jesus Christ and now modern physics are saying that that energy is all around us all the time. A free energy which science wants to harness to make more useless things whilst Jesus, 2000 years ago taught us how to harness it for our own health and welfare....under the auspices  of his father.

Clearly then, if you have a blockage against Jesus Christ you have a blockage against modern science because they are both saying the same thing from their own  different perspectives. But Jesus got their first and seems to have a much wider depth of knowledge on the subject.

No he didn't Nick, there is no scriptural evidence that Jesus knew anything at all about electromagnetism.  All this 'indisputable' stuff is just the colourfulness in your interpretation.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #942 on: October 06, 2016, 11:03:51 AM »
The evidence is indisputable. If you wiggle your big toe you fire many electric impulses through your body...that energy has to come from somewhere. Now, you can follow the chemical route which will lead to the atomic route, which will lead you to the solar pathway to find the original  source for that energy...but, first Jesus Christ and now modern physics are saying that that energy is all around us all the time. A free energy which science wants to harness to make more useless things whilst Jesus, 2000 years ago taught us how to harness it for our own health and welfare....under the auspices  of his father.

Clearly then, if you have a blockage against Jesus Christ you have a blockage against modern science because they are both saying the same thing from their own  different perspectives. But Jesus got their first and seems to have a much wider depth of knowledge on the subject.

It's a shame that you can't see how ludicrous the majority of your posts are, like this one, one of the more senseless meaningless ones you keep on posting; no wonder your nick name's Sparky.

The only answers you give are meaningless babble that are hardly answers that have any connection to the questions asked of you and are usually uninterpretable.

The majority of people that post here understand the workings of science enough to know, what a lot of, made up in your imagination, rot you keep coming out with.

Have you ever thought of descending from your place on planet Zog and trying to give everybody, not just me, sensible answers to the questions asked of you, questions that come from mostly sensible people?

You don't have to answer this post of mine just the same as any other question but if you do why not at the least try to be sensible and not answer with your usual unintelligible pseudo science where you don't even know yourself what it is you're saying.

ippy

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #943 on: October 06, 2016, 11:22:24 AM »


Floo/torri/ippy...

You all know very little about science else you would see the line of logic I'm following marries up well with modern science, and you know even less about Jesus Christ who you condemn mercilessly.. You slam and slur his name as if the millions who have found great store from his words are of no consequence and just don't matter.

Jesus faced the same dilemma and went to his disgraceful slaughter knowing he was doing it just for them.

Now...as I see it...there are those, today, who openly confess to be on the side of the crucifiers and those who totally object to them...This might be the key feature in Almighty God's, not so far off, Judgement.

Repentance costs very little except a little humble pie and humbleness is the way to tapping into that free energy...God's Fountain of Living Waters.

I feel I have outstayed my welcome so I'll leave you to your own devices...perhaps if I see Bashful Anthony posting back on here in the future I might be tempted to return...but I don't hold much hope.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #944 on: October 06, 2016, 11:23:47 AM »

You forgot to mention the Holy Bible Khatru. You can't say it doesn't exist and if it does that could be good reason why millions take it seriously...and perhaps why you should as well.

Now...one thing that Jesus tells us about is the spiritual nature of Almighty God, the spiritual nature of you and I then he tops it all by showing us that even in the worst case scenario, death is obsolete...providing we follow...guess what...his righteous spiritual laws. Obviously this is of no interest to you but it is now becoming obvious that there is an invisible, superabundant material pervading space...it offers free energy we are told and if we read it into our Biblical studies we find that it is a material worthy of a lot more study because it sounds as though all mass in the universe is made from it.

Everlasting life...courtesy of an indestructible energy...but hang on, don't get too excited...we have got to get through these great tribulations first and they are proving to be as serious as the Holy Bible told us they will be.

 

Sorry, that wasn't me you were replying to and neither was it Rose.

However, for the avoidance of doubt, I agree with Ippy and disagree with you.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #945 on: October 06, 2016, 11:29:34 AM »

Floo/torri/ippy...

You all know very little about science else you would see the line of logic I'm following marries up well with modern science, and you know even less about Jesus Christ who you condemn mercilessly.. You slam and slur his name as if the millions who have found great store from his words are of no consequence and just don't matter.

Jesus faced the same dilemma and went to his disgraceful slaughter knowing he was doing it just for them.

Now...as I see it...there are those, today, who openly confess to be on the side of the crucifiers and those who totally object to them...This might be the key feature in Almighty God's, not so far off, Judgement.

Repentance costs very little except a little humble pie and humbleness is the way to tapping into that free energy...God's Fountain of Living Waters.

I feel I have outstayed my welcome so I'll leave you to your own devices...perhaps if I see Bashful Anthony posting back on here in the future I might be tempted to return...but I don't hold much hope.

Thanks for stopping by.

I'm afraid your book of myths has no place on the science shelf but over there with books on Zeus, Odin, Osiris, etc.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #946 on: October 06, 2016, 11:31:04 AM »

Floo/torri/ippy...

You all know very little about science else you would see the line of logic I'm following marries up well with modern science, and you know even less about Jesus Christ who you condemn mercilessly.. You slam and slur his name as if the millions who have found great store from his words are of no consequence and just don't matter.

Jesus faced the same dilemma and went to his disgraceful slaughter knowing he was doing it just for them.

Now...as I see it...there are those, today, who openly confess to be on the side of the crucifiers and those who totally object to them...This might be the key feature in Almighty God's, not so far off, Judgement.

Repentance costs very little except a little humble pie and humbleness is the way to tapping into that free energy...God's Fountain of Living Waters.

I feel I have outstayed my welcome so I'll leave you to your own devices...perhaps if I see Bashful Anthony posting back on here in the future I might be tempted to return...but I don't hold much hope.
Bashful Anthony is banned permanently as per the post in the Banned Posters thread, link below.


http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=6939.50

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #947 on: October 06, 2016, 01:25:27 PM »

You all know very little about science............
Those words should keep the Acme Irony-meter Co in business until and if you ever return!  ::)
We could maybe run a sweep to see if we can guess which crackpot ' science' you come up with next?
Been fun chatting to you this time Nick. I wish you luck in your future attempts at convincing the wicked bullies to convert /repent.
Maybe one day 'soon' you will get that total up to 1.  ;)

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is finally complete and I will buy a copy.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #948 on: October 06, 2016, 01:47:17 PM »

Floo/torri/ippy...

You all know very little about science else you would see the line of logic I'm following marries up well with modern science, and you know even less about Jesus Christ who you condemn mercilessly.. You slam and slur his name as if the millions who have found great store from his words are of no consequence and just don't matter.

Jesus faced the same dilemma and went to his disgraceful slaughter knowing he was doing it just for them.

Now...as I see it...there are those, today, who openly confess to be on the side of the crucifiers and those who totally object to them...This might be the key feature in Almighty God's, not so far off, Judgement.

Repentance costs very little except a little humble pie and humbleness is the way to tapping into that free energy...God's Fountain of Living Waters.

I feel I have outstayed my welcome so I'll leave you to your own devices...perhaps if I see Bashful Anthony posting back on here in the future I might be tempted to return...but I don't hold much hope.

I don't think any of us what you to leave the forum NM. :(

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #949 on: October 06, 2016, 02:50:31 PM »
I don't think any of us what you to leave the forum NM. :(

I'll second Floo's plea you're a decent bloke Nick; all we would like to have from you Nick is just on the the odd occasion a sensible answer to a question one or  the other posters has asked of you.

Ippy

PS Nick, just take a minute of your time and step back, have a good look at the title of this thread? Have a think about it.