The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ

[Sebastian Toe]

.It appears that most of you are Wormwood fodder...but at least I tried.

Nichluless, is this an accurate sighting of part of the Wormwood system?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l1Y5z1z2Tc

[BeRational]

All:

Vicious circle arguments, every one of them. You accuse me of closed mindedness whilst you all seem to be a in pact with each other...blast, offend, drag into annihilation any mention of the wonderful teaching of  Jesus Christ.  People need to be aware that when approaching such a bullying group of people that logic and reasoning is the last thing on your mind.

Jesus Christ lived died and was resurrected so we have a wonderful science to explore...it is all down to the righteousness of his spirit...born from the same material stars and atoms are made from. Via this spirit he sunk to the depths of the ether that has charge over each and everyone of us when we die...but he snatched the keys out of your bosses hand and showed those with a more righteous attitude that resurrection and everlasting life is available to us if we follow him accurately...It appears that most of you are Wormwood fodder...but at least I tried.

How do you know that Jesus lived, died and came back to life other than words in a book.

WHY DO YOU BELIEVE WHAT IS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE?

Do you believe ALL holy books, or just this one?

[NicholasMarks]

How do you know that Jesus lived, died and came back to life other than words in a book.

WHY DO YOU BELIEVE WHAT IS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE?

Do you believe ALL holy books, or just this one?

You might get a grasp of what vicous circle argument is BeRational...you asked the self same question a couple of posts ago...it was answered...you snarled...and now you are asking it again.

[Sebastian Toe]

You might get a grasp of what vicous circle argument is BeRational...you asked the self same question a couple of posts ago...it was answered...you snarled...and now you are asking it again.

Cheese and pickle sandwich.

Cheese and pickle sandwich.

Cheese and pickle sandwich.

[Sebastian Toe]

it was answered..

This wasn't


Nichluless, is this an accurate sighting of part of the Wormwood system?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l1Y5z1z2Tc

[floo]

There is a theme that runs throughout the Holy Bible...God is a spirit...his superabundant 'dynamic energy' built all the stars...he is the owner of all science and all accurate knowledge...he sent his son to bring his teaching into sharp focus.

So what Jesus has to tell us is very important indeed. It is best to read it yourself and realise that there is a science involved in his teaching. That science revolves around us upbuilding a righteous spirit which can, besides offer us resurrection, can interact with our energy starved genetics and give them a new lease of life...oops...I'm moving too fast.

 

That is how you see it NM, but I see no science whatsoever in what Jesus is reputed to have said, nor do many others I suspect..

[NicholasMarks]

Nichluless, is this an accurate sighting of part of the Wormwood system?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l1Y5z1z2Tc

I couldn't be bothered to look Seb...you haven't inspired me to believe that you have any interest in saving yourself. There are many accounts of this Wormwood phenomenon on YouTube...some fake but many real...it is up to you to discover the truth because it appears that the truth is being suppressed. But it doesn't really matter to you...does it??

It is the electric/spiritual nature of the universe that will save you...but only if you can comply with a few simple righteous laws...but we now know you can't.

[NicholasMarks]

That is how you see it NM, but I see no science whatsoever in what Jesus is reputed have said, nor do many others I suspect..

Floo...if we are told that the invisible things of God are seen by those things that are visible...it means that every atom and every star must be made from an invisible material...an energy he calls his mighty power...his fountain of living waters...his superabundant dynamic energy. Now you might have preferred Isaiah to have started to tell you about nuclear fusion and fast-breeder reactions 4000 years ago but Almighty God saw it differently...but that doesn't mean that we can't come to those conclusions when we take his accurate word seriously.

[floo]

Floo...if we are told that the invisible things of God are seen by those things that are visible...it means that every atom and every star must be made from an invisible material...an energy he calls his mighty power...his fountain of living waters...his superabundant dynamic energy. Now you might have preferred Isaiah to have started to tell you about nuclear fusion and fast-breeder reactions 4000 years ago but Almighty God saw it differently...but that doesn't mean that we can't come to those conclusions when we take his accurate word seriously.

Ehhhhhhhhhhh what does any of that actually mean?

[bluehillside Retd.]

Sparky,

Vicious circle arguments, every one of them. You accuse me of closed mindedness whilst you all seem to be a in pact with each other...blast, offend, drag into annihilation any mention of the wonderful teaching of  Jesus Christ.  People need to be aware that when approaching such a bullying group of people that logic and reasoning is the last thing on your mind.

No, it's the first thing and using it to falsify your efforts isn't "bullying" at all - it's just falsifying your efforts. Stop playing the persecution complex card and try engaging with the logic that undoes you. 

Jesus Christ lived died and was resurrected so we have a wonderful science to explore...

No, a book says that - which is why you've been asked why you think that book is accurate. You can duck and dive all you like, but the question remains nonetheless.
 

...it is all down to the righteousness of his spirit...born from the same material stars and atoms are made from. Via this spirit he sunk to the depths of the ether that has charge over each and everyone of us when we die...but he snatched the keys out of your bosses hand and showed those with a more righteous attitude that resurrection and everlasting life is available to us if we follow him accurately...It appears that most of you are Wormwood fodder...but at least I tried.

Cheese and pickle sandwiches.

Chee...

"What" and "why" have different meanings. Try at least to understand that and then perhaps you can begin the journey to seeing where you're going wrong.

[NicholasMarks]

Sparky,

No, it's the first thing and using it to falsify your efforts isn't "bullying" at all - it's just falsifying your efforts. Stop playing the persecution complex card and try engaging with the logic that undoes you. 

No, a book says that - which is why you've asked why you think that book is accurate. You can duck and dive all you like, but the question remains nonetheless.
 
Cheese and pickle sandwiches.

Chee...

"What" and "why" have different meanings. Try at least to understand that and then perhaps you can begin the journey to seeing where you're going wrong.

Just vicious circle arguments for arguments sake bluehillside. There is so much to tell those who will listen but you will not let go of your key doctrine to assassinate any mention of Jesus Christ.  That's no problem for me but a terrific problem for you.

[floo]

Just vicious circle arguments for arguments sake bluehillside. There is so much to tell those who will listen but you will not let go of your key doctrine to assassinate any mention of Jesus Christ.  That's no problem for me but a terrific problem for you.

Whilst it all might make sense to you NM it certainly doesn't to others, including other Christians.

[BeRational]

Just vicious circle arguments for arguments sake bluehillside. There is so much to tell those who will listen but you will not let go of your key doctrine to assassinate any mention of Jesus Christ.  That's no problem for me but a terrific problem for you.

Why do not discuss and simply keep asserting nonsense?

Explain WHY you believe what you do.
Do not say because it is in the bible as this is evasion. I want to know WHY you believe what is written in the bible.

[NicholasMarks]

Whilst it all might make sense to you NM it certainly doesn't to others, including other Christians.

You say you have read the Holy Bible Floo but you are certainly missing key points...I suggest you read it again...especially the bit about Wormwood and the fiery lake of sulphur.

God is a spirit...Jesus showed us the spiritual laws that will enable us to succeed against all our woes...especially the great woe of death...promising resurrection at the appointed time. It's all possible because it is an electric/spiritual universe that obeys different laws than what you might think...laws that equate to the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ...still....if you don't want a part in it it's no skin off my nose.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Sparky,

Just vicious circle arguments for arguments sake bluehillside.

Logic can't be "vicious" - just sound or not. If the pupil who says "2+2=5" is corrected by his friends they're not being vicious, they're just providing the correct answer.

And you don't understand the term "circular argument" by the way. To be circular, an argument must start with its conclusion. This is what you do with your, "the Bible says Jesus was resurrected/I know Jesus was resurrected because the Bible says so/therefore the Bible is accurate/the Bible says Jesus was resurrected" etc effort, and to break it you keep being asked the "why" question that you just avoid.

Asking "why" isn't circular; your assertion is.   

There is so much to tell those who will listen but you will not let go of your key doctrine to assassinate any mention of Jesus Christ.  That's no problem for me but a terrific problem for you.

What "doctrine" do you think I won't let go of exactly?

If you genuinely think you have something to say that's worth hearing why not at least try to make an argument for it that isn't idiotic?

[NicholasMarks]

Why do not discuss and simply keep asserting nonsense?

Explain WHY you believe what you do.
Do not say because it is in the bible as this is evasion. I want to know WHY you believe what is written in the bible.

If the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ is nonsense to you BeRational  then what hope have you got. You ignore solid scientific points that there must be a material behind the foundation of the universe which has got thousands of scientists blasting at the tiniest of atomic particles at great expense with few results yet are prepared to totally blast a Biblical explanation which comes to you from the highest authority in the universe. An authority that sent his only begotten son to show you exactly what he means. More Wormwood fodder I am afraid...but at least you too were offered the opportunity to repent.

Now it will take you 2 seconds to scribble out a snarl whilst I am giving your points serious consideration. But I now know the score...slam everything that is written about Jesus Christ.

[BeRational]

If the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ is nonsense to you BeRational  then what hope have you got. You ignore solid scientific points that there must be a material behind the foundation of the universe which has got thousands of scientists blasting at the tiniest of atomic particles at great expense with few results yet are prepared to totally blast a Biblical explanation which comes to you from the highest authority in the universe. An authority that sent his only begotten son to show you exactly what he means. More Wormwood fodder I am afraid...but at least you too were offered the opportunity to repent.

Now it will take you 2 seconds to scribble out a snarl whilst I am giving your points serious consideration. But I now know the score...slam everything that is written about Jesus Christ.

STOP repeating assertions no one is interested.

Explain WHY you believe the bible is accurate or that Jesus even existed.

[Sebastian Toe]

I couldn't be bothered to look Seb...you haven't inspired me to believe that you have any interest in saving yourself. There are many accounts of this Wormwood phenomenon on YouTube...some fake but many real..

Can you do the good Christian thing and help me by pointing at a real one?
I mean, you must have seen a real one, haven't you Sparky?

If only you could show me a real one, then that would surely help me to salvation wouldn't it?
Do you want me to be saved?
Do you, because that would be the best way to do it.

So, do you?

Any avoidance and side tracking and dodging would show me that you are not really interested in saving me.

So what is it to be, the truth or more cheese and pickle sandwiches?

[bluehillside Retd.]

BR,

STOP repeating assertions no one is interested.

Explain WHY you believe the bible is accurate or that Jesus even existed.

Sparky never will. The closest he's come to it is to tell us that lots of people have found "comfort" in the stories, though why he thinks that has anything to do with their supposed truth is anyone's guess. As a method it's also pretty much the antithesis of the scientific method he keeps falsely claiming.

Essentially he just repeats the mantra ad nauseam and hopes no-one notices that it's entirely vapid.   

[NicholasMarks]

STOP repeating assertions no one is interested.

Explain WHY you believe the bible is accurate or that Jesus even existed.

That is precisely what I am trying to tell you but it is a bit off putting when you know the return will be a snarl and a put down. Still...the mission comes first.

Jesus Christ is written about in the Holy Bible...there is no mistaking that some wonderful things are said about him within its pages. Millions of people have followed his teaching and found great hope, faith and comfort in his words, usually when at their lowest hour.

Now...anyone is entitled to study his word and look for truth in it...I have and have found a huge amount of truth. Jesus Christ's teaching is the front for a wonderful science...the science of righteousness which teaches you how to harness the same force that is freely available, and all around us, all the time. The problem is that as children we all have access to this energy. It is our innocence which, like righteousness, induces it to work within us but as we become clever in the ways of the world we lose that power. We turn our back on righteousness...which is a shame because it is then we become blinkered, hard headed, snarly, and suffering from many complicated illnesses which the science says could be avoided.

It's all in the Holy Bible, it just requires you to be a lot nicer and more able to listen than you appear to want to be.

   

[jjohnjil]

Nick
If you just stuck to the teaching Jesus is reputed to have done -  the helping your neighbour, doing good where you can, try to help the down-trodden, right laws that are wrong - these are all worth while and you would indeed be doing Jesus's work for him.

Instead, you try to say he was talking scientifically, which we all know he was not capable of, living in those times..

You obviously have been convinced by something or someone that to even question any of the Bible will have God condemning you.  You're convinced that anyone who tries to show you that you're mistaken is doing the work of the Devil.  It is sad but unfortunately for you, almost impossible to get round.

You are frightened of dying.  Instead of oblivion, you've been convinced by someone that you'll spend eternity in this mythical lake of sulphur.

I can't see how you are ever going to change that, it is the reason a lot of us are against teaching little kids that the Bible stories are real.

If you think having all these posters are bullying you by asking you for more than mere assertion, I'd advise you to stick to  your little group of like-minded believers and stay away from forums on the Internet.

[BeRational]

That is precisely what I am trying to tell you but it is a bit off putting when you know the return will be a snarl and a put down. Still...the mission comes first.

Jesus Christ is written about in the Holy Bible...there is no mistaking that some wonderful things are said about him within its pages. Millions of people have followed his teaching and found great hope, faith and comfort in his words, usually when at their lowest hour.

Now...anyone is entitled to study his word and look for truth in it...I have and have found a huge amount of truth. Jesus Christ's teaching is the front for a wonderful science...the science of righteousness which teaches you how to harness the same force that is freely available, and all around us, all the time. The problem is that as children we all have access to this energy. It is our innocence which, like righteousness, induces it to work within us but as we become clever in the ways of the world we lose that power. We turn our back on righteousness...which is a shame because it is then we become blinkered, hard headed, snarly, and suffering from many complicated illnesses which the science says could be avoided.

It's all in the Holy Bible, it just requires you to be a lot nicer and more able to listen than you appear to want to be.

 

WHY do you believe what is in the bible?

That was the question, but you never answer.

[NicholasMarks]

Nick
If you just stuck to the teaching Jesus is reputed to have done -  the helping your neighbour, doing good where you can, try to help the down-trodden, right laws that are wrong - these are all worth while and you would indeed be doing Jesus's work for him.

Instead, you try to say he was talking scientifically, which we all know he was not capable of, living in those times..

You obviously have been convinced by something or someone that to even question any of the Bible will have God condemning you.  You're convinced that anyone who tries to show you that you're mistaken is doing the work of the Devil.  It is sad but unfortunately for you, almost impossible to get round.

You are frightened of dying.  Instead of oblivion, you've been convinced by someone that you'll spend eternity in this mythical lake of sulphur.

I can't see how you are ever going to change that, it is the reason a lot of us are against teaching little kids that the Bible stories are real.

If you think having all these posters are bullying you by asking you for more than mere assertion, I'd advise you to stick to  your little group of like-minded believers and stay away from forums on the Internet.

Thank you johnjil for your input. I recognised instantly that is was sincere even though it wasn't expressing any interest in my stance on Jesus Christ. Unfortunately, though I have high regard for those who try to follow righteousness there are those who will snarl and ridicule everything that is said in its support. Those who follow righteousness have no problems with the fiery lake of brimstone but it is in the Holy Bible and it is part of the end times and it is a part of the punishment for those who cannot grasp righteousness. It's all in the Holy Bible.

I would love to just come on this site and enjoy the pleasantness that righteousness promises but I am afraid that doesn't appear possible at the moment.

Now...if millions of pounds/dollars are being spent to unearth sciences that are already taught from within the Holy Bible don't you think it is a duty to high-light that point to those who might benefit from it. Anyone who cannot see that the spiritual teaching in the Holy Bible is filled with statements about the true nature of the universe and how it can help mankind when obedience to righteous laws is demanded by it, will have trouble with God's Judgement.

[floo]

You say you have read the Holy Bible Floo but you are certainly missing key points...I suggest you read it again...especially the bit about Wormwood and the fiery lake of sulphur.

God is a spirit...Jesus showed us the spiritual laws that will enable us to succeed against all our woes...especially the great woe of death...promising resurrection at the appointed time. It's all possible because it is an electric/spiritual universe that obeys different laws than what you might think...laws that equate to the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ...still....if you don't want a part in it it's no skin off my nose.

There is a lot in the Bible which isn't credible fiery lakes and wormwood, for instance. You like to put your own interpretation on the verses, which seems to be the product of a very overactive imagination. As I have said before you are entitled to your POV, but have to accept that others cannot see it your way at all.

[NicholasMarks]

WHY do you believe what is in the bible?

That was the question, but you never answer.

Because of Jesus Christ.