The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ

[bluehillside Retd.]

Sparky,

Isn't it funny when you keep going round and round in circles.Still someone has to break the chain.

Yes, you. That's why you keep being asked why you think any of your claims and assertions to be facts. Just repeating those claims and assertions doesn't even get its trousers off as a reply to that question.

Remember, I am saying, with Biblical support, that a superabundant electric/spiritual force created all the stars...they could only do this if they created all the atoms as well. You might be happy with a 'singularity' but it is the height of insult to the conservation laws of energy which scientists also proclaim. We must also go behind the big-bang because that also has cob-webs all over it. We now have a universe that is static...nothing is moving as it is today, only the drifting of this raw material...dark matter, if you prefer...but 'God's dynamic energy' if we quote Isaiah. It was drifting around building up into huge,dense clouds, of light year proportions, and each cloud represented the spawning ground of the galaxy it would produce, so that as much of this raw material was in each cloud that was to create the galaxies that we see today.

Remember, you are being asked why you think these claims and assertions are true given the lack of reason or evidence for them.

I'd better do this slowly because I know you are brain-washed to believe God didn't do it.

No, the only person here who's "brain washed" to use your term is you. You can go as slowly as you like, but idiocies said slowly are no less idiocies than they are if they're expressed quickly.

You make claims about what the Bible says when it doesn't say these things. That's dishonest.

Even if it did say these things, you have no interest whatever in telling us why you think claims written in a particular book are true. That's evasion.

You make up your own facts ("Nemesis", increasing earthquakes etc) and completely misunderstand the actual findings of whichever branches of science you attempt to plagiarise. That's dishonest.

You've told us that your mind is closed to any reasoning or evidence that could show you to be wrong. That's what "bigotry" means.

Whenever you're confronted with reasoning that undoes you, you ignore it and play the persecution card. That's dishonest.

Can you think of even one reason for the rest of us not to think you to be an idiot, and a dishonest one at that?

Anything?

[floo]

No BeRational...I believe Almighty God exists. He gives us many clues to the nature of this raw material that offers repair, resurrection, and everlasting life. And he tells us plainly that in the beginning was the 'word' which I interpret as the scientific understanding of all the sciences in the universe...many recently discovered by us and many yet to be discovered. So...we know this raw material has always been and always will be...we know that it is better described in the first instance as like water rather than like particles and we know that all scientific laws,of which Almighty God is the highest authority are embodied within the correct interpretation of this raw material.

But of course he had to introduce this knowledge slowly because...well...many prefer to believe foolish things rather than the advanced knowledge of Almighty God.

(Fingers in ears now so carry on).

As I have asked many times if god exists why doesn't it make its presence beyond all doubt, even to the most sceptical?

[Gonnagle]

Dear Nicholas,
 
Ah! It's like old times my friend, watching a thread weave by the magic of NicholasMarks, a very civilised, dry sense of humour type magic, this forum gives you the title of Hero but I think you should be awarded the title Superhero, simply for the joy you spread.

Gonnagle, President and high heid yin of the NicholasMarks fan club.

[jjohnjil]

Dear Nicholas,
 
Ah! It's like old times my friend, watching a thread weave by the magic of NicholasMarks, a very civilised, dry sense of humour type magic, this forum gives you the title of Hero but I think you should be awarded the title Superhero, simply for the joy you spread.

Gonnagle, President and high heid yin of the NicholasMarks fan club.

Maybe you can tell us where all these theories are written in the ''good' book, Gonners?  As President, the buck stops with you!

[Gonnagle]

Dear jj,

You want me!! Little old me to explain the Science of Righteousness, I am but a pupil at the feet of the Master, but I think you start with "The accurate teachings of Our Lord Jesus Christ" "I am the Way the Truth and the Life" although I to find difficulty with that one, I think there are many paths to God, I have no problem with Hindu, Sikh, Muslim, Jewish etc etc etc teachings, they all lead to the Father.

Gonnagle.

[jjohnjil]

Dear jj,

You want me!! Little old me to explain the Science of Righteousness, I am but a pupil at the feet of the Master, but I think you start with "The accurate teachings of Our Lord Jesus Christ" "I am the Way the Truth and the Life" although I to find difficulty with that one, I think there are many paths to God, I have no problem with Hindu, Sikh, Muslim, Jewish etc etc etc teachings, they all lead to the Father.

Gonnagle.

The truth?  That seems to be the issue here, Mr President.

[bluehillside Retd.]

jj,

The truth?  That seems to be the issue here, Mr President.

The truth?

"You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!"

PS Putting "science" and "righteousness" together is an oxymoron.

[jjohnjil]

jj,

The truth?

"You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!"

PS Putting "science" and "righteousness" together is an oxymoron.

That's all that's being asked here, Blue, but there seems to be very few good men about.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Blue and jj,

The man captures you and then pulls you in

Gonnagle.

[NicholasMarks]

Dear Nicholas,
 
Ah! It's like old times my friend, watching a thread weave by the magic of NicholasMarks, a very civilised, dry sense of humour type magic, this forum gives you the title of Hero but I think you should be awarded the title Superhero, simply for the joy you spread.

Gonnagle, President and high heid yin of the NicholasMarks fan club.

Thank you Gonnagle but I must insist, that I am a humble cog in an enormous wheel.

As you say...Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life. Some see this as fancy poetry worthy of a pat on the back others know it means something wonderful but not sure what it means...the science of righteousness says it is the way to re-attach ourselves to God's fountain of living waters...the same material that is the spiritual person of Almighty God, himself, for which he speaks and over which he has all authority. Righteousness is following the laws of good order that upbuilds within us a righteous spirit...holds on to it, refreshes and repairs our genetic health whilst offering us an indestructible claim to the electric/spiritual nature of the universe....just like Jesus and Almighty God themselves.

Not because I say so but because Jesus says so.

I trust this is useful.

[Dicky Underpants]

Dear Blue and jj,

The man captures you and then pulls you in

Gonnagle.

My arse!

[bluehillside Retd.]

Sparky,

Not because I say so but because Jesus says so.

Which you expect us to believe just on your say so.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Dicky,

My arse!

Eloquently put!

[bluehillside Retd.]

Sparky,

Thank you Gonnagle but I must insist, that I am a humble cog...

Given your patronising tone even as you spout your fantasies and dishonesties you don't seem very humble to me.

[Nearly Sane]

Sparky,

Given your patronising tone even as you spout your fantasies and dishonesties you don't seem very humble to me.

surely if they are fantasies then they are not dishonesties?

[bluehillside Retd.]

NS,

surely if they are fantasies then they are not dishonesties?

I said fantasies and dishonesties. You can have both, as Sparky often does. 

[Walt Zingmatilder]

surely if they are fantasies then they are not dishonesties?

Yes but Blue loves a bit of alliteration.

[Nearly Sane]

NS,

I said fantasies and dishonesties. You can have both, as Sparky often does.

How can you tell? If you accuse him of 'fantasies' how do you work out when they might stop and the 'dishonesties' begin?

[Nearly Sane]

Yes but Blue loves a bit of alliteration.

that's consonance, not alliteration

[NicholasMarks]

All:

Clearly many of you strongly object to the Holy Bible...that isn't my fault...further more you are prepared to argue till you are blue in the face against it even though it is obvious you have no understanding what is in it.

I have listed a science that springs out of the Holy Bible to me and which modern science has no grounds to condemn because it unifies what they can't...even though they have spent millions of pounds/dollars trying. This just goes over your heads except for snorts, snarls, abuse, ridicule and condemnation.

I have even introduced you to an imminent danger that is looming and suggested how you might be saved from it...and shown how this too is referred to in Revelation. More abuse...still all part of the mission.

[Nearly Sane]

All:

Clearly many of you strongly object to the Holy Bible...that isn't my fault...further more you are prepared to argue till you are blue in the face against it even though it is obvious you have no understanding what is in it.

I have listed a science that springs out of the Holy Bible to me and which modern science has no grounds to condemn because it unifies what they can't...even though they have spent millions of pounds/dollars trying. This just goes over your heads except for snorts, snarls, abuse, ridicule and condemnation.

I have even introduced you to an imminent danger that is looming and suggested how you might be saved from it...and shown how this too is referred to in Revelation. More abuse...still all part of the mission.

You still don't engage with what people say. If you really want to work for faith and have an effect, then it would be better surely if you did that rather than blamed your opponents for you not addressing what they actually say?


To take one small point do you accept that your point about increasing earthquakes is not backed up by the evidence? If not please cite some evidence, not make another assertion.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

that's consonance, not alliteration

Oh, Fucking Fiddlesticks....

[jeremyp]

Oh, Fucking Fiddlesticks....

An Anthony Averse Alliteration.

[NicholasMarks]

You still don't engage with what people say. If you really want to work for faith and have an effect, then it would be better surely if you did that rather than blamed your opponents for you not addressing what they actually say?


To take one small point do you accept that your point about increasing earthquakes is not backed up by the evidence? If not please cite some evidence, not make another assertion.

I'm certainly not aware of discussing the amount of earthquakes with bluehillside or any one else on this  site and positively not in this current life on R&E. He did make an assumption that he had and had proven to me previously that earthquakes weren't increasing but as the Bible position says they will I let it pass.

Here is a YouTube of an Iris Earthquake Browser that shows that since 1970 global earthquakes have increased substantially starting with 4 majors in the 70's but no great earthquakes. In 80's 59 majors 1 great earthquake. The 90's 121 majors and 7 greats...in the decade 2000 126 majors, 12 greats and 1 megathrust...2010 to 2015, 95 majors, 6 greats and 1 megathrust with only half the decade passed.

I know that currently there is an even more threating picture emerging...but I think this video is sufficient to make my point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngwho1EPHMI

As regards making contact with respondents I am sure that you can see that the abuse and hostility comes from them whilst I just plod on as politely as they allow me to be.

Perhaps a Christian forum isn't the best place to make informative Christian comments especially as truth is an absolute imperative which I earnestly abide with.

 

[Sebastian Toe]

I know that currently there is an even more threating picture emerging...but I think this video is sufficient to make my point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngwho1EPHMI

Great, now maybe you can post a video which supports your 'wormwood is coming' assertion?
A point by the way which was absent from your earthquake link. Any reason?