The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ

[Nearly Sane]

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[bluehillside Retd.]

Sparky,

I would have thought it obvious bluehillside that I was talking about a naturally induced collider and used the Hadron name to empathise that the mechanics were similar...that is, two dense energy sources hurtling towards each other at high-speed...colliding with each other and creating the things that science is searching for in their $2 billion mock up of it.

I'm sorry if you couldn't stretch your mind round this but I am sorrier that you don't find the Biblical comfort I do from such a wonderful teaching as the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ.

As your approach is to make grandiose claims about what all of science has apparently missed while fundamentally misrepresenting what science actually does and says, to tell us all the while what a "worthless sinner" you are, to patronise your unworthy interlocutors by telling us that you mustn't "go too fast" for our puny brains, and to play the persecution card whenever your mistakes are pointed out because "the Bible said that people would mock" I see no way meaningfully to engage with you.

I wish you well, and hope you stay wrapped up warm for winter.   

[NicholasMarks]

NM: "...realised something that many others seem to have missed...and that is that behind all Biblical teaching is a knowledge that passeth all understanding. ..."

I have a sense of the knowledge being something that transcends Biblical study;  the things we worry and argue about here would occupy a far smaller proportion of our lives than they do now.   Do you believe everyone can achieve that?  Whilst I know one must be open, I can't help feeling that many will be, sincerely, worrying until Kingdom Come because it is in their God-given nature.  In which case, they cannot be ascribed blame.

 

It is my belief Brownie...that Jesus Christ's teaching is very profound. That it takes an energy source that is invisible and largely undetectable but is involved in our health, welfare, and emotions, in either a damaging way or in an upbuilding, repairing way, dependant upon how we respond to its rules.

The rules aren't obvious but they are caring and uplifting...but...and here is the snag...they must be followed accurately.

The laws are all written down in the Holy Bible...and the science of the Holy Bible is so powerful that when we come to harness that strength on offer we will certainly come to realise why prayer is so important...It is the way we absorb God's fountain of living waters into our health...into our spirit...and into our daily lives.

[NicholasMarks]

Hi NM,

As Christ said that all the Laws and teachings of the Prophets were based on his two commandments... how, do you, propose that those who do not believe actually follow the commandment to love God with all their heart?

If you hear about Christ and reject him how can anyone follow his teachings?

Almighty God, himself, said, he wasn't slow as we consider slowness but so that all those who can be saved are saved. This means that many who are now outside the faith can be saved...but Jesus wont alter his righteous stance to provide for them. They must come to the truth of the faith. There is a  time limit and that isn't far off if we are reading the Biblical signs correctly.

For my part, I see a wonderful science outlined from Jesus' teaching and think that by explaining this science might encourage atheists to see the error of their ways...but the science will prove itself...and millions have seen some of that logic without my help.

[Sebastian Toe]

the whole world might repent...especially if a wonderful science were to emerge which stated that righteousness is the only way to go forward..

What are the chances of that wonderful science emerging Nick?

[Sebastian Toe]

There is a  time limit and that isn't far off if we are reading the Biblical signs correctly.

How far off is that then?
Weeks, months, years?
Only answer if you are reading the signs correctly though!

[NicholasMarks]

Did we miss the bit where Jesus taught science?
Not sure NM that we can really make a fire with this type of teaching.
Surely the creation nature would be rub two sticks together... but the truth for the bible have always been the fire which comes from the presence of the  Holy Spirit meeting with persons?

The accurate teaching of Jesus Christ and/or Almighty God doesn't need my help but there are positive guidelines which say that their teaching is the  front to a wonderful science...

...Look into the heavens...who made these things...with the superabundance of his dynamic energy (mighty power)...not one is missing.

If that isn't the introduction to a wonderful science I don't know what is.

There are many clues in the Holy Bible which suggests that this same material...God's mighty power (dynamic energy) is the creative force behind everything in the universe (including science)...is owned by Almighty God and is the driving force behind all of science and on the strength of this I have explored the possibility that encased within Jesus Christ's accurate teaching is a science...a wonderful science that defies the wisdom of intellects who otherwise prefer their own reasoning which excludes God.

Everything I say usually ends with the rider...follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ and, thereby follow a wonderful science...but, it seems...not many want to do this even though their salvation depends on it.

[NicholasMarks]

What are the chances of that wonderful science emerging Nick?

I would say very strong indeed...but then I would...wouldn't I??

[bluehillside Retd.]

Sparky,

If that isn't the introduction to a wonderful science I don't know what is.

Clearly.

[NicholasMarks]

How far off is that then?
Weeks, months, years?
Only answer if you are reading the signs correctly though!

No one knows the hour or the day Seb...except Almighty God who is in Heaven...else like a thief in the night if the owner knew when he was coming he would be prepared...it's all in the Holy Bible.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Seb,

How far off is that then?
Weeks, months, years?
Only answer if you are reading the signs correctly though!

You really aren't paying attention are you? Haven't you heard him - it'll be "soon" ("soon" apparently meaning any time between next Wednesday half day closing and infinity).

Hope that narrows it down for you.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Sparky,

As you are clearly lost to reason, I'm going to leave you to your fantasising.

Just before I do though, consider for a moment the Large Hadron Collider - the world's most powerful particle accelerator designed to conduct a suite of experiments to answer some of the fundamental open questions in physics concerning the basic laws governing the interactions and forces among the elementary objects, the deep structure of space and time, and the interrelation between quantum mechanics and general relativity. Fundamental information about the way the universe actually works.

Did you know that:

1. It cost £2.6bn to build.

2. The protons, when the machine is at full power, travel at a 99.9999991% of the speed of light.

3. The collisions generate temperatures more than 100,000 times hotter than the centre of the Sun.

4. Around 10,000 scientists and engineers from more than 60 countries work on LHC, supported by many more from universities and research facilities around the world.

5. The most powerful supercomputer system in the world was built to analyse the data generated by the LHC. It’s called the Grid and is formed from tens of thousands of interconnected computers scattered around the world. The data recorded by each of the big experiments at the LHC would fill around 100,000 dual-layer DVDs every year.

And then there's you. Little old you, who turns up on an internet message board to tell us that what all these people have "missed" is your grandiose conjectures about a "wonderful" this and a "dynamic" that. And you know this - really, really know this - because you've chosen to interpret a book you think to be "holy" in a particular way and because of a few YouTube videos. And what happens when you're challenged on your mistakes? You play the persecution card.

At some point surely something of this must penetrate the ignorant certainties you so relentlessly parade and jealously guard here mustn't it?

Mustn't it?

Couldn't all of that money have been better spent on the arts which a lot more people could have benefitted from.........for instance?

[Nearly Sane]

Couldn't all of that money have been better spent on the arts which a lot more people could have benefitted from.........for instance?

As perhaps an interpretation of your posts in the medium of dance?

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlad,

Couldn't all of that money have been better spent on the arts which a lot more people could have benefitted from.........for instance?

No, and here's why:

http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2008-09/defense-lhc

Incidentally, you do realise that "all that money" isn't put on a rocket and sent into space or something don't you? It actually pays for wages, for goods and services (whose providers pay the wages of their staff) and for all sorts of other things that enter the "real" economy. And guess what - many of those people who have their wages paid spend some of it on supporting the arts!

Funny old world innit?   

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Vlad,

No, and here's why:

http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2008-09/defense-lhc

Incidentally, you do realise that "all that money" isn't put on a rocket and sent into space or something don't you? It actually pays for wages, for goods and services (whose providers pay the wages of their staff) and for all sorts of other things that enter the "real" economy. And guess what - many of those people who have their wages paid spend some of it on supporting the arts!

Funny old world innit?   

Yes and spending it elsewhere could also have contributed to the economy.

On the other hand the money could have been squandered on string theorists.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlad,

Yes and spending it elsewhere could also have contributed to the economy.

On the other hand the money could have been squandered on string theorists.

And would the spending "elsewhere" also have promised the remarkable track record of economic and social benefits that science has always provided? Read the article for more info.

[Nearly Sane]

Yes and spending it elsewhere could also have contributed to the economy.

On the other hand the money could have been squandered on string theorists.

ok, please outline your plans for investment of money and explain why you think investment in mime will save the human race

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Vlad,

And would the spending "elsewhere" also have promised the remarkable track record of economic and social benefits that science has always provided? Read the article for more info.

£2.6 bn ..............do you realise how many cathedrals you can get for that?

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlad,

£2.6 bn ..............do you realise how many cathedrals you can get for that?

About one and a half?

Congrats though - that's the first time you've ever made me laugh!

[Walt Zingmatilder]

ok, please outline your plans for investment of money and explain why you think investment in mime will save the human race

I didn't say mime I said the arts. Don't be such a philistine.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Vlad,

About one and a half?

Congrats though - that's the first time you've ever made me laugh!

Really..........I find you endlessly entertaining.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlad,

I didn't say mime I said the arts. Don't be such a philistine.

Puppetry then.

One of the things about the arts (of which I'm a fan by the way) is that they tend to need people to support them - to pay for the music, buy the books, visit the galleries etc. And to do that, those people need to have jobs to provide some money. And money comes from economic activity. And successful economies rely heavily of the fruits of science...

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlad,

Really..........I find you endlessly entertaining.

In the same way that my goldfish will be "entertained" by the late Beethoven Quartets presumably.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Vlad,

Puppetry then.

One of the things about the arts (of which I'm a fan by the way) is that they tend to need people to support them - to pay for the music, buy the books, visit the galleries etc. And to do that, those people need to have jobs to provide some money. And money comes from economic activity. And successful economies rely heavily of the fruits of science...

The arts are part of the economy too.
Was the LHC completely privately funded?
Wasn't handing over the cheque, handing the money to a latter day priesthood?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Vlad,

In the same way that my goldfish will be "entertained" by the late Beethoven Quartets presumably.

Yes...........when you're on bubbles come out of my arse.