The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ

[NicholasMarks]

Nick you are spinning yourself dizzy in trying to avoid answering very simple questions.

In response to YOU saying that Wormwood is fast approaching, I asked just how fast is it approaching?

Your response (avoidance one might say) was
So, as requested, I did look on youtube but as I found out there are too many different predictions to select accurately from.
The general assumption I must make though is that as you are making the statement  - it is fast approaching - then YOU surely must have some sound evidence to back it up.
YOU suggest that youtube is a source for the answer.

It isn't, unless you have done some 'accurate' filtering to get to the ones which you would stand by if selected.
YOU don't seem to be able to answer that, it looks like YOU have not done any research at all, doesn't it?

Especially, very especially when you done you super slippery Teflon suit and come back with this;

It doesn't really answer the query, does it?

Circular argument Seb...It doesn't bother me...I have reasoned out all the things I will say beforehand but you have a fetish for it.

If I say I believe the Holy Bible then I am saying I believe in that quote...If I refer you to YouTube  then the obvious conclusion I would have thought is that no one really knows but it looks imminent.

I only bother telling you this because others who might read this post might want to know, where as, I am convinced, you don't.

 

[jjohnjil]

There is your first mistake then jjohnjil...you are telling me and the Holy Bible what righteousness is without bothering to read it, or, if you have, reading it wrong.

Ok righteousness embodies good works but mainly it is showing us how to upbuild a righteous spirit so that we can be saved...the good works, providing they are righteous good works help those mechanics but believing in Almighty God and following Jesus Christ, accurately comes first.

There is so much more but you just aren't listening...I put it down to heavy brain-washing.

So it is, as I supposed, merely your way of escaping death and so that you can spend eternity playing your harp on some fluffy cloud.

Have you ever wondered  why God wants you to believe in him, Nick.  With all that power and knowledge, being able to create universes with no trouble at all, he still feels the need of his little minions to believe in him.

Have you ever considered it more likely that the people who were trying to start a religion would be the ones who needed people to believe in it?   Selling London Bridge comes to mind.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Circular reasoning

Circular reasoning (Latin: circulus in probando, "circle in proving"; also known as circular logic) is a logical fallacy in which the reasoner begins with what they are trying to end with.

Example:

“God exists because it says so in a book; the book is accurate because God made it so; God exists because it says so in a book" etc.

Question

A question is a linguistic expression used to make a request for information, or the request made using such an expression. The information requested should be provided in the form of an answer.

Example:

“What do you mean by “soon”?”

[NicholasMarks]

So it is, as I supposed, merely your way of escaping death and so that you can spend eternity playing your harp on some fluffy cloud.

Have you ever wondered  why God wants you to believe in him, Nick.  With all that power and knowledge, being able to create universes with no trouble at all, he still feels the need of his little minions to believe in him.

Have you ever considered it more likely that the people who were trying to start a religion would be the ones who needed people to believe in it?   Selling London Bridge comes to mind.

Jesus didn't escape death, so a follower of Jesus must always be mindful that they wont court harmony from those who despise Jesus. Therefore we have to have faith in his resurrection.

No...what us really at stake here is that, by virtue of a natural event...foretold thousands of years ago, that a terrible catastrophe will hit this planet. It will build up slowly but will come to a mighty climax.

But we can be saved and those that are will be shown how to live forever...without death or ill health. Hence a science that will achieve all this. A science that cannot contradict the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ one iota.

Not only will we (if I am among that number) have everlasting life we will have a science with incredible reach because it will transport to all corners of the universe...a dream that only scientists can yet dream about but through Jesus Christ's accurate teaching will become a reality.

[floo]

I believe in the one Seb that says...No one knows the hour or the day, no, not even the son, only the father who is in Heaven.

You see what I mean about circular argument...you have no desire to know the answer but are happy to ridicule and go round and round in circles like those who believe in atheism and incidentally...those who follow the brain-washing of their manipulators.

But NM it is you who is going round and round in circles; it is obvious you cannot provide any answers as all your statements are based on your own way out assumptions, with nothing to support them. 

[floo]

Jesus didn't escape death, so a follower of Jesus must always be mindful that they wont court harmony from those who despise Jesus. Therefore we have to have faith in his resurrection.

No...what us really at stake here is that, by virtue of a natural event...foretold thousands of years ago, that a terrible catastrophe will hit this planet. It will build up slowly but will come to a mighty climax.

But we can be saved and those that are will be shown how to live forever...without death or ill health. Hence a science that will achieve all this. A science that cannot contradict the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ one iota.

Not only will we (if I am among that number) have everlasting life we will have a science with incredible reach because it will transport to all corners of the universe...a dream that only scientists can yet dream about but through Jesus Christ's accurate teaching will become a reality.

There is no evidence Jesus escaped death, if he did why didn't he stay around on Earth?

As for the rest, instead of looking for some calamity to strike humanity why don't you try to enjoy the life you have here as best as you can, letting any after death life, if there is one, take care of itself? If there isn't any afterlife you are a long time dead.

[NicholasMarks]

Circular reasoning

Circular reasoning (Latin: circulus in probando, "circle in proving"; also known as circular logic) is a logical fallacy in which the reasoner begins with what they are trying to end with.

Example:

“God exists because it says so in a book; the book is accurate because God made it so; God exists because it says so in a book" etc.

Question

A question is a linguistic expression used to make a request for information, or the request made using such an expression. The information requested should be provided in the form of an answer.

Example:

“What do you mean by “soon”?”

Soon is an undetermined time that is gauged by the parameters you measure time by...therefore...if you are travelling at the speed of light soon could be a very long way away. If in your time range a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years a day...then soon could mean, soon for us, or soon for the one controlling that soon...and it isn't me.

If, after 4000 years, a body of a number of planets are heading our way which will, like a pregnant women going into labour, cause slow mayhem which will increase into a terrible event, then preparation for that event should start immediately and not wait for what may happen soon. But the source of that knowledge says there is only one way to prepare for it and I suggest you start pretty soon...depending on which clock you are gauging soon by.

   

[NicholasMarks]

There is no evidence Jesus escaped death, if he did why didn't he stay around on Earth?

As for the rest, instead of looking for some calamity to strike humanity why don't you try to enjoy the life you have here as best as you can, letting any after death life, if there is one, take care of itself? If there isn't any afterlife you are a long time dead.

Remember Floo...I want to be part of that after-life...in the flesh, in good health and happiness for all eternity whilst on the other hand I don't like the idea of swirling around a fiery lake of sulphur for all eternity.

The choice is ours, up to a point...and I fear that point will arrive soon...(soon here meaning an indeterminate time that isn't far off but that no one knows just how long but Almighty God).

[Khatru]

While we are on mathematics, here's one for the atheists...

1+1=10. True, or false?

True if two have two fingers.

[floo]

Remember Floo...I want to be part of that after-life...in the flesh, in good health and happiness for all eternity whilst on the other hand I don't like the idea of swirling around a fiery lake of sulphur for all eternity.

The choice is ours, up to a point...and I fear that point will arrive soon...(soon here meaning an indeterminate time that isn't far off but that no one knows just how long but Almighty God).

You have no idea if an afterlife exists, and if it does what it is like. The Bible is not the fount of all knowledge at all as it  a very human creation, imo.  I think the idea of the paradise you think heaven is would get very boring after a while. I am hoping that when I die I cease to be.

[Sebastian Toe]

Soon is an undetermined time that is gauged by the parameters you measure time by...therefore...if you are travelling at the speed of light soon could be a very long way away. If in your time range a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years a day...then soon could mean, soon for us, or soon for the one controlling that soon...and it isn't me.

If, after 4000 years, a body of a number of planets are heading our way which will, like a pregnant women going into labour, cause slow mayhem which will increase into a terrible event, then preparation for that event should start immediately and not wait for what may happen soon. But the source of that knowledge says there is only one way to prepare for it and I suggest you start pretty soon...depending on which clock you are gauging soon by.

 

The question is - which clock are you guaging it by?

[Sebastian Toe]

Circular argument Seb...It doesn't bother me...I have reasoned out all the things I will say beforehand but you have a fetish for it.

If I say I believe the Holy Bible then I am saying I believe in that quote...If I refer you to YouTube  then the obvious conclusion I would have thought is that no one really knows but it looks imminent.

I only bother telling you this because others who might read this post might want to know, where as, I am convinced, you don't.

Are you using the word 'imminent' in the same way that you are torturing the English language by your use of the word 'soon'?

[Sebastian Toe]

If, after 4000 years, a body of a number of planets are heading our way which will, like a pregnant women going into labour, cause slow mayhem which will increase into a terrible event, then preparation for that event should start immediately

 

But if it is a thousand years away then you don't have to do anything 'immediately'!
Unless when you say immediately you have invented a new meaning for that word in the same way as you have invented a new meaning for 'soon'.
Which is it?

[jjohnjil]

Jesus didn't escape death, so a follower of Jesus must always be mindful that they wont court harmony from those who despise Jesus. Therefore we have to have faith in his resurrection.

No...what us really at stake here is that, by virtue of a natural event...foretold thousands of years ago, that a terrible catastrophe will hit this planet. It will build up slowly but will come to a mighty climax.

But we can be saved and those that are will be shown how to live forever...without death or ill health. Hence a science that will achieve all this. A science that cannot contradict the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ one iota.

Not only will we (if I am among that number) have everlasting life we will have a science with incredible reach because it will transport to all corners of the universe...a dream that only scientists can yet dream about but through Jesus Christ's accurate teaching will become a reality.

Nick, you're incorrigible!   Your posts remind me of an old Perry Com song ...

http://www.metrolyrics.com/a-dreamers-holiday-lyrics-perry-como.html

You're wicked - but I like you!

[NicholasMarks]

You have no idea if an afterlife exists, and if it does what it is like. The Bible is not the fount of all knowledge at all as it  a very human creation, imo.  I think the idea of the paradise you think heaven is would get very boring after a while. I am hoping that when I die I cease to be.

That is part of the teaching Floo...paradise, in the form of that static dimension I am alluding to,  where time stands still and where we can feel the peace that passeth all understanding is achievable for us to reach. Biblically in the first instance but scientifically in the second instance...we simply have to follow Jesus Christ accurately, upbuild a righteous spirit from that indestructible source that created stars and atoms...believe in the righteousness of Almighty God...follow their righteous path and be saved...really...it is as simple as that.

In the Holy Bible it is called repentance and we have a little time left...I think.

[floo]

That is part of the teaching Floo...paradise, in the form of that static dimension I am alluding to,  where time stands still and where we can feel the peace that passeth all understanding is achievable for us to reach. Biblically in the first instance but scientifically in the second instance...we simply have to follow Jesus Christ accurately, upbuild a righteous spirit from that indestructible source that created stars and atoms...believe in the righteousness of Almighty God...follow their righteous path and be saved...really...it is as simple as that.

In the Holy Bible it is called repentance and we have a little time left...I think.

None of that makes one iota of sense to me, NM!

[NicholasMarks]

None of that makes one iota of sense to me, NM!

That is because you prefer arguing your point instead of listening to Jesus and getting the gist of his teaching.

[floo]

That is because you prefer arguing your point instead of listening to Jesus and getting the gist of his teaching.

As I have said before I don't believe Jesus was any sort of god, he comes over as very human to me with faults and failing just like the rest of us. Yes he is reputed as saying some sensible things, and some with which I would disagree.

[NicholasMarks]

While we are on mathematics, here's one for the atheists...

1+1=10. True, or false?

I've worked out that 1+1 =2 and 2 is represented in binary as 10. Am I close.

Oh...so the function would be true as against false and would open the switch.

[NicholasMarks]

As I have said before I don't believe Jesus was any sort of god, he comes over as very human to me with faults and failing just like the rest of us. Yes he is reputed as saying some sensible things, and some with which I would disagree.

In matters of salvation Floo it doesn't really matter what you have decided. If Wormwood is going to effect our lives in a horrible way and Jesus warned us about it and told us how to safeguard ourselves then it is up to you to decide whether righteousness is too high a price to pay.

I have pointed out that Jesus was very advanced and was operating from a scientific base far ahead of us...what more do you need to know...other than...Wormwood is getting closer every day.

[ippy]

As I understand it the guy who came out with the big-bang idea simply recognised that the galaxies were hurtling away from a central point and deduced that if you reversed this process they would all merge at a single point in space. To try and get the energy conservation principle embodied into it they declared a singularity where all these trillions upon trillions of megatons of energy were compressed into a tiny dot smaller than a pin-prick...and that is what science believed. Some of those scientists are now saying that it can't possibly be true but it has taken a long time. I have come up with a better idea drawn from the Holy Bible and if correct offers a cure-all for all our mistakes...the biggest mistake being that Wormwood is fast approaching and we should be considering how to save ourselves whilst those reading and implementing the Holy Bible have assurances which are well worth reading about.

The science is to help those who might be a little more stubborn than others...because Almighty God, nor Jesus Christ will bend their righteous laws to allow those who are unrepentant into their new heavens and new Earth.

Ignorance is no defence in the eyes of Wormwood.

Like I said in my P S to you in that last post of mine on this thread:

  "P S I'll bet you don't give a straight answer to this post of mine, mind it'll be interesting to see how you avoid answering these types of questions again, this time", true to form Nick.

Why don't you answer any post that asks for evidence that would support/supply evidence for your bible's claim to be the words of this god thing of yours.

It couldn't be that you haven't got any supportive evidence that would prove the existence of this god of yours, electric or dynamic will do if you can find any? 

I suspect if you do answer this post, the answers you might provide will have nothing to do with the question asked.

ippy   

[Sebastian Toe]

Wormwood is getting closer every day.

How much closer?

[jjohnjil]

How much closer?

LOOK BEHIND YOU!!!!! OOOOOOO!

[jjohnjil]

I was gonna say you couldn't make it up ...  but obviously you can!

[bluehillside Retd.]

Seb,

How much closer?

Oh for...

...look, it's clearly going to be somewhere between bigger than a gnat's lunchbox and smaller than the universe. You know, just like "soon" means some time between tomorrow lunchtime and eternity. Can't you just focus on the "dynamic" this and "wonderful" that of the cheap salesman - er, of the true prophet to get the big picture here?

Sheesh!