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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #425 on: September 20, 2016, 06:40:47 PM »

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The invisible things of God are seen by those things that are visible. I am showing you those invisible things by reason and kogic...Somehow you cannot get your heads round it so may I suggest you simply try to follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ else resign yourselves to your fate.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #426 on: September 20, 2016, 06:56:55 PM »
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The invisible things of God are seen by those things that are visible. I am showing you thos invisible things by reasoncand kogic...Somehow you cannot get your heads round it so may I suggest you simply try to follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ else resign yourselves to your fate.

Hello, is that IT Support? It is? Good. Look, I've got a SparkyBot 2000 and the - what's that? - yes, we do still have on of those. Stop laughing will you - this is serious. Anyways, the language chip seems to be on the Fritz, so - say again? Yes, I have tried switching him off and on again, and yes I have turned down the Hyberbole Setting function from "wonderful" to "quite good". It's still happening though - just jumbles of words with no logic architecture to support them. What should I do?

Yeah yeah - I know, "they stopped making the parts for that model back when Noah was a sea scout". Very droll. So anyways, about this malfunctioning...

...Oh, OK - the random gibberish function kicks in when it overheats does it? Right. So I should - say what now? - "I should take him back to the Radio Rentals shop he came from and..." Yeah, could be a bit tricky that one.

Any other suggestions? "See whether Argos will swap him for a toaster on their electrical goods scrappage scheme?" Well, I do like a bit of toast, and if a piece pops out with an image of Mother Theresa on it it would make more theological sense that I'm getting just now I guess...

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #427 on: September 20, 2016, 07:11:31 PM »
Look, I've got a SparkyBot..................
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #428 on: September 20, 2016, 09:17:35 PM »
Hello, is that IT Support? It is? ..........
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #429 on: September 21, 2016, 08:16:45 AM »
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The invisible things of God are seen by those things that are visible. I am showing you those invisible things by reason and kogic...Somehow you cannot get your heads round it so may I suggest you simply try to follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ else resign yourselves to your fate.

NM your reason and logic doesn't seem reasonable or logical to most of us!

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #430 on: September 21, 2016, 08:29:23 AM »
All...

Later today, when I have more time, I will introduce the fundamenral forces into my science...all of which are the product of Almighty God's written word which offers the primary clue, which is, that he is the highest authority in the universe and over all science which all hinge from his superabundant dynamic energy.

This topic will then be complete and I will at least know why disbelievers will fail God's Judgement...it is because their minds have locked out righteousness and, thereby, they have no chance of righteous repair.



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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #431 on: September 21, 2016, 08:31:30 AM »
All...

Later today, when I have more time, I will introduce the fundamenral forces into my science...all of which are the product of Almighty God's written word which offers the primary clue, whch is, that he is the highest authority in the universe and over all science which all hinge from his superabundant dynamic energy.

Ths topic will then be complete and I will at least know why disbelievers will fail God's Judgement...it is because their minds have locked out righteousness and, thereby, they have no chance of righteous repair.

I wouldn't bother if I were you!

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #432 on: September 21, 2016, 09:13:51 AM »
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All...

Later today, when I have more time, I will introduce the fundamenral forces into my science...all of which are the product of Almighty God's written word which offers the primary clue, whch is, that he is the highest authority in the universe and over all science which all hinge from his superabundant dynamic energy.

This topic will then be complete and I will at least know why disbelievers will fail God's Judgement...it is because their minds have locked out righteousness and, thereby, they have no chance of righteous repair.

Hello? IT Support? Yeah look, it's me again...you know, the poor schmuck who still has a SparkyBot 2000 - we spoke yesterd...yeah that's it, the one that's spewing out random gibberish about "science" and "logic" when there's neither. Yeah yeah, if you could at least try to stop laughing that'd be great...

...anyways, I just threw it in a carrier bag to take down to Argos and this faint red light came on and it wheezed out "righteous repair" so I thought I'd just check back with you in case there's any life in it still.

What's that? "Do you think we should use the spiritual soldering iron on it then?" Oh, very witty I'm sure. Say what now...? "Or how about the virtuous voltmeter, or maybe the peerless pliers. We might have some dynamic diodes somewhere." Oh stop it now, look my sides have spilt and my internal organs are falling out. All you had to say was that was that the gibberish setting was irreversible. Glad I amused you so much though. 

OK, Argos it is then. Thanks for nothing guys."
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #433 on: September 21, 2016, 10:40:06 AM »
All…

Moving on with the science behind Jesus Christ’ electric/spiritual universe…we should now know that in the beginning, represented here by the righteous ‘word’ of Almighty God…we now have the entire universe responding to some powerful shock-waves created by the very first radio signals, amplifying outwards, the product of the collision force of two, dense cores, themselves the centres of two dynamic clouds of indestructible dynamic energy, of which there were already trillions that had been drifting around the great void of space for all eternity.

The consequences of this, was, that all of these mass-less clouds were hurtling outward at the speed of the expanding universe and all spinning up into terrible hurricane storms. Some clouds crashed into other clouds creating a galaxy with a slightly different footprint but the norm would lead to spiral-galaxies with a massive black-hole at their centre…representing the surviving remnant of the power-house that created all the stars that were to be processed by it.

Something very strange was taking place because lying on top of that static pre-big-bang dimension of the universe was now a high-speed dimension and laws that had never existed previously were about to be born.

All…

The 4 fundamental forces of nature are the product of modern sciences reasoning. Every behaviour and activity in the universe must equate into one of these forces which are…

Gravity: The Strong Nuclear Force: The Weaker Atomic Force: and, Electromagnetic Force.

I like to include the living cell here as well because the invisible, electric nature of the living cell was also carved from these same mechanics…though that topic deserves its own thread…and, perhaps,  a more righteous audience.

You see…if by following the above post #371…there is an expanding universe with dense mass-less  clouds of galaxy proportions, spinning up into hurricane storm forces all over the place, then those tornadoes within those clouds would dig a hole, deep within that galaxy cloud. It is all happening very quickly when the eye of a tornado hovering over the dense core of that material sucks in huge amounts of that material. There are perhaps many tornadoes imitating the same behaviour and as a consequence huge dense balls of concentrated energy are being swirled up the tornadoes column as mass-less stars, which are themselves swirling masses of dense electric energy.

These stars are using similar mechanics as the galaxy cloud whereby the swirling, crashing forces are making tiny holes in their fabric…the slightest hint of such a hole would be sufficient…and so the powerful nuclear force is being created on the micro-level of this fundamental science…sucking in their own atomic material in the way that atoms display in science today. Now we have dense atomic material that was once an invisible dynamic energy but is now particles but could also be waves of electromagnetic force.

Gravity is the remnant of the imploding force that is behind the construction of all mass and it is all possible because of the two clashing dimensions of the universe…the original static dimension of the universe and the high-speed dimension that we live in.

Now…this post is getting a little longer than intended…so I will leave you with this thought…it is all built on top of modern science…it’s just that Almighty God got there first and Jesus Christ showed us how to implement the fruits of their righteous science into our daily lives with absolute faith in his father’s teaching which included resurrection.
   

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #434 on: September 21, 2016, 12:32:01 PM »
All…

The 4 fundamental forces of nature are the product of modern sciences reasoning. Every behaviour and activity in the universe must equate into one of these forces which are…

Gravity: The Strong Nuclear Force: The Weaker Atomic Force: and, Electromagnetic Force.

I like to include the living cell here as well because the invisible, electric nature of the living cell was also carved from these same mechanics…though that topic deserves its own thread…and, perhaps,  a more righteous audience.

You see…if by following the above post #371…there is an expanding universe with dense mass-less  clouds of galaxy proportions, spinning up into hurricane storm forces all over the place, then those tornadoes within those clouds would dig a hole, deep within that galaxy cloud. It is all happening very quickly when the eye of a tornado hovering over the dense core of that material sucks in huge amounts of that material. There are perhaps many tornadoes imitating the same behaviour and as a consequence huge dense balls of concentrated energy are being swirled up the tornadoes column as mass-less stars, which are themselves swirling masses of dense electric energy.

These stars are using similar mechanics as the galaxy cloud whereby the swirling, crashing forces are making tiny holes in their fabric…the slightest hint of such a hole would be sufficient…and so the powerful nuclear force is being created on the micro-level of this fundamental science…sucking in their own atomic material in the way that atoms display in science today. Now we have dense atomic material that was once an invisible dynamic energy but is now particles but could also be waves of electromagnetic force.

Gravity is the remnant of the imploding force that is behind the construction of all mass and it is all possible because of the two clashing dimensions of the universe…the original static dimension of the universe and the high-speed dimension that we live in.

Now…this post is getting a little longer than intended…so I will leave you with this thought…it is all built on top of modern science…it’s just that Almighty God got there first and Jesus Christ showed us how to implement the fruits of their righteous science into our daily lives with absolute faith in his father’s teaching which included resurrection.
 

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #435 on: September 21, 2016, 02:04:07 PM »
Bloody Argos!  You have to take everything back!

Nothing wrong with Argos.  I use it regularly.  It's a good place!
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #436 on: September 21, 2016, 02:17:10 PM »

Why don't you answer any post that asks for evidence that would support/supply evidence for your bible's claim to be the words of this god thing of yours.

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I don't think you should ask Nicko to justify such claims about the Bible, since as far as I can see, he limits himself to about three quotes, one from Genesis 1.1, one from Isaiah, and one short reference to Chapter 8 of Revelation.
The rest is very much his own (and even the above three are subject to Nick's highly imaginative 'interpretation').
As for justifying what he thinks is 'science', well, I suspect a number of worthy souls have lost the will to live in trying to get a straight answer from the Dynamic Fountainhead.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #437 on: September 21, 2016, 02:30:35 PM »
I don't think you should ask Nicko to justify such claims about the Bible, since as far as I can see, he limits himself to about three quotes, one from Genesis 1.1, one from Isaiah, and one short reference to Chapter 8 of Revelation.
The rest is very much his own (and even the above three are subject to Nick's highly imaginative 'interpretation').
As for justifying what he thinks is 'science', well, I suspect a number of worthy souls have lost the will to live in trying to get a straight answer from the Dynamic Fountainhead.

You mean accurate, electric, scientific, dynamic fountainhead! :D

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #438 on: September 21, 2016, 03:14:06 PM »
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The invisible things of God are seen by those things that are visible. I am showing you those invisible things by reason and kogic...Somehow you cannot get your heads round it so may I suggest you simply try to follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ else resign yourselves to your fate.

Hi again Nick, thanks for the polite post only trouble is you keep on saying either you follow or we should follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, well that's all very well, the trouble with that's how do you know this Jesus Christ taught anything like the things you say he has taught us, where's your evidence that would or could prove he did in fact teach us anything at all.

I would have thought any one could accept that this Jesus figure you keep referring to did in fact exist at some time, so assuming he did exist where's the evidence that would in any way confirm the things you keep on telling us he said, he did actually say?

I've not seen, heard or read of any one ever in the whole of mankind's recorded history ever supplying anything that would in any way confirm that something so remotely possible as god like figures have ever existed, yet you keep telling us they do exist, O K since it's you insisting these mysterious figures exist how about telling us how you or any one else, has gained this knowledge without, as Blue and several others keep telling you, your senseless circular argument, the bible proves god exists so it follows the words in the bible are gods words.

I really look forward, without much hope, to see you answer the questions asked; without the sermon.

Is it because you haven't got any sensible evidence that supports the existence this god figure of yours the reason why you don't answer the questions asked?

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #439 on: September 21, 2016, 03:16:27 PM »
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Is it because you haven't got any sensible evidence that supports the existence this god figure of yours the reason why you don't answer the questions asked?

You think?
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #440 on: September 21, 2016, 03:19:41 PM »
Is it because you haven't got any sensible evidence that supports the existence this god figure of yours the reason why you don't answer the questions asked?

Probably more this pattern...

Atheist to Christian: Cite evidence for your belief?

Christian: Cites evidence A

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

Christian: Cites evidence B

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

Christian: Cites evidence C

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

Christian: Cites evidence D

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

Christian: Cites evidence E

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

...
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #441 on: September 21, 2016, 03:22:57 PM »
Probably more this pattern...

Atheist to Christian: Cite evidence for your belief?

Christian: Cites evidence A

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

Christian: Cites evidence B

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

Christian: Cites evidence C

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

Christian: Cites evidence D

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

Christian: Cites evidence E

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

...

Try it then.

Cite your evidence and let's see.

To help you out though, words in a book, any book, can never be evidence for a miracle.

You think Jesus was dead then alive.

Why do you think that?
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #442 on: September 21, 2016, 03:31:58 PM »
Quote from: SwordOfTheSpirit
Probably more this pattern...

Atheist to Christian: Cite evidence for your belief?

Christian: Cites evidence A

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

Christian: Cites evidence B

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

Christian: Cites evidence C

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

Christian: Cites evidence D

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

Christian: Cites evidence E

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

...
Illustrated in the very next post by BeRational:

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To help you out though, words in a book, any book, can never be evidence for a miracle.
I haven't enough faith to be an atheist.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #443 on: September 21, 2016, 03:34:23 PM »
Illustrated in the very next post by BeRational:

Do you accept ALL claims in any book?

People lie, make mistakes, and exaggerate when writing things down.

How do you know this did not happen?
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #444 on: September 21, 2016, 03:41:07 PM »
Probably more this pattern...

Atheist to Christian: Cite evidence for your belief?

Christian: Cites evidence A

'Christian' also needs to cite the method used to claim this 'evidence' is indeed evidence: such as its attributes, how it has been apprehended etc etc.

Without a relevant method 'Christian' doesn't have 'evidence' at all - just claims of 'evidence', which isn't the same thing.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #445 on: September 21, 2016, 03:41:31 PM »
Sword,

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Probably more this pattern...

Atheist to Christian: Cite evidence for your belief?

Christian: Cites evidence A

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

Christian: Cites evidence B

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

Christian: Cites evidence C

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

Christian: Cites evidence D

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

Christian: Cites evidence E

Atheist: That's not evidence. Try again

Only if you so corrupt the term "evidence" that it can also mean, "a strong personal opinion I happen to have".

Which of course you can't.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #446 on: September 21, 2016, 04:16:36 PM »
Do you accept ALL claims in any book?

People lie, make mistakes, and exaggerate when writing things down.

How do you know this did not happen?
What you have said here can be applied to any book. Short of being there and being able to observe for myself, there is no way to know for sure. I choose to believe it by faith however.

It would be worse. Sir David Attenborough claims that life started in the sea four billion years ago when complex chemicals began to come together. Life from non-life. Observable? If so, where? Demonstrable? If so, how?
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #447 on: September 21, 2016, 04:19:37 PM »
What you have said here can be applied to any book. Short of being there and being able to observe for myself, there is no way to know for sure. I choose to believe it by faith however.

It would be worse. Sir David Attenborough claims that life started in the sea four billion years ago when complex chemicals began to come together. Life from non-life. Observable? If so, where? Demonstrable? If so, how?

We do not believe it because he said so.
The evidence points to his conclusion with DNA and fossils.

Do you have evidence of that quality, or just faith (guessing)
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #448 on: September 21, 2016, 04:25:48 PM »
Dear All...

I have just given you all the evidence you need. I have said that all the evidence of modern science is on the right track just put together all wrong...but with certain key-points extracted from the Holy Bible their sciences  makes even more sense than modern scientists today realise.

Almighty God wants to help you...even though you slander and slag him off daily...especially, more so now that we are in the last days...after which repentance will be futile.

If you look around the world today you see a world full of pain...your pain as well as everyone else's. Repairing our crumbling health should be our first priority...those who get a head start will have the best chance of survival in the new heavens and the new Earth.

So...ok...If you ignore your own sciences, I could have made the whole thing up...but you can't blame me for the Holy Bible...which says the same things.

God is love...he wants us to know that his loving force is freely available to those who can meet his requirements which are righteousness...if there is any doubts about what righteousness is consult the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ. 


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #449 on: September 21, 2016, 04:31:48 PM »
We do not believe it because he said so.
The evidence points to his conclusion with DNA and fossils.
Evidence, interpreted with a worldview that says

given that life started and developed naturally, how did it happen?

Fair enough, if that's what you choose to believe. I prefer to see (believe) DNA as evidence of common design, in the same way that letters are used for written text, notes are used for all written music, code is used for all computer software, etc.
I haven't enough faith to be an atheist.