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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #900 on: October 04, 2016, 02:03:35 PM »
I've often found that people often express concern for others as a get-out for themselves...My recommendation is to be concerned for yourself first and then maybe bring in those close to you.

Don't fret for those who you are fretting about...the innocent are no problem at all, they already have what it takes to be saved...and the word of God is reaching into every corner of the world as we speak...but those who have followed the mischievousness of evil wont need to know about Jesus because they have already sinned themselves out of what's on offer.
But what if Wormwood appears before the word has reached everyone?
What then?
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #901 on: October 04, 2016, 02:28:56 PM »
But what if Wormwood appears before the word has reached everyone?
What then?

You didn't really bother reading my last post did you Seb. When Wormwood comes it will carry with it a terrific gravitational force. We are advised that by following Jesus accurately we will have the proper, emotional and spiritual, nature, required to resist that gravitational force.

Those not saved will probably leave their physical presence behind but the part of us that lives forever will be snatched away by it. That is the only sense I can make from that highly truthful book of Revelation.

To ensure we maintain our spirit, whether through resurrection or direct salvation depends on how we respond to Jesus Christ now. The innocent don't need any extra help they will always comply with righteousness, the evil have no intention of complying whether they know about Jesus or not...It's just those who are hanging back from making up their minds who need a little shove...but I'm not hopeful for them...not all of them, anyway.

 

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #902 on: October 04, 2016, 02:30:03 PM »
How does anyone disbelieve in something that's not there to disbelieve in Vlad? I don't disbelieve in unicorns either.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #903 on: October 04, 2016, 02:38:02 PM »
How does anyone disbelieve in something that's not there to disbelieve in Vlad? I don't disbelieve in unicorns either.

ippy

Quite easily Ippy.

If you told me you saw one on the way back from the pub one night.

I'd disbelieve that, and think you had had a few to many and your eyes were playing tricks.

It's the same with God. If some bloke tells you he hears God talking to him, I bet you would disbelieve that.

It doesn't matter if what you disbelieve in exists or not, it's the concept you disbelieve in.

The suggestion someone is suggesting to you, should it be little green men in a saucer, or that they found gold at the bottom of the rainbow.

disbelieve
dɪsbɪˈliːv/
verb
be unable to believe.
"he seemed to disbelieve her"
synonyms:   not believe, not credit, give no credence to, discredit, discount, doubt, distrust, mistrust, be suspicious of, have no confidence/faith in, be incredulous of, be unconvinced about; More
have no religious faith.


You are unable to believe in God, therefore you disbelieve.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #904 on: October 04, 2016, 02:43:26 PM »
Quite easily Ippy.

If you told me you saw one on the way back from the pub one night.

I'd disbelieve that, and think you had had a few to many and your eyes were playing tricks.

It's the same with God. If some bloke tells you he hears God talking to him, I bet you would disbelieve that.

It doesn't matter if what you disbelieve in exists or not, it's the concept you disbelieve in.

The suggestion someone is suggesting to you, should it be little green men in a saucer, or that they found gold at the bottom of the rainbow.

Unfortunately the teaching of Jesus Christ and Almighty God has volumes of written evidence to support them. You and ippy and it seems Susan are able to dismiss this as being below your intellect but the evidence is stacking up that there are much cleverer people in the universe than us and if one of these is Jesus Christ and another Almighty God, then you haven't heard the last from them...I am just trying to soften the blow.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #905 on: October 04, 2016, 03:02:53 PM »
The innocent don't need any extra help they will always comply with righteousness, the evil have no intention of complying whether they know about Jesus or not...
Really?
How can you comply with something if you are not ware of what you are supposed to comply with as well as not being aware of the messenger who would tell you about it?
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« Reply #906 on: October 04, 2016, 04:48:12 PM »
Unfortunately the teaching of Jesus Christ and Almighty God has volumes of written evidence to support them. You and ippy and it seems Susan are able to dismiss this as being below your intellect but the evidence is stacking up that there are much cleverer people in the universe than us and if one of these is Jesus Christ and another Almighty God, then you haven't heard the last from them...I am just trying to soften the blow.

There is no evidence at all, you certainly haven't come up with any!
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #907 on: October 04, 2016, 05:56:02 PM »

Floo/Seb the evidence is all wrapped up in the fact that the Holy Bible, besides being a book of solid righteous logic from yesteryear is all a book of scientific logic in this year...it's all a question of realising that Almighty God is much more advanced than you give him credit for. Those who have put them to the test know this for a fact but we are mere mortals and don't have the power of persuasion that you both actually need.

 
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #908 on: October 04, 2016, 06:22:54 PM »
But what if Wormwood appears before the word has reached everyone?
What then?

I'm sure the answer will be found in the children's book of that name by one G.P. Taylor, who achieved a minor degree of fame on both sides of the Atlantic with his first children's fantasy "Shadowmancer". Described on the back cover as "A spirit-filled Christian", I don't doubt that he's got all the answers. Since Revelation itself only mentions Wormwood once, maybe it's in fact Taylor's second book that has been Nicko's bedside reading for some time......
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #909 on: October 04, 2016, 11:33:01 PM »
I'm sure the answer will be found in the children's book of that name by one G.P. Taylor, who achieved a minor degree of fame on both sides of the Atlantic with his first children's fantasy "Shadowmancer". Described on the back cover as "A spirit-filled Christian", I don't doubt that he's got all the answers. Since Revelation itself only mentions Wormwood once, maybe it's in fact Taylor's second book that has been Nicko's bedside reading for some time......

The nature of this electric/spiritual universe as taught to us in the righteous teaching of Jesus Christ is saying things to us  in a load and clear voice.

It is certainly saying to me...We, the deity of your world are much more advanced than you are...you must listen to us else suffer the consequences...the time is fast approaching when you will all cry out to us for salvation but we will only listen to the compassionate, the kindly, the honest, the righteous, the caring, the innocent and the worthy.

Don't think anyone will escape justice...Jesus showed us about the indestructible nature of our spirit that we each possess. If it is insignificant it wont have the strength to withstand God's Judgement.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #910 on: October 04, 2016, 11:48:53 PM »
Even the people who have never heard of God?

When tribes were discovered they always had he belief in 'a' god.
When the tower of babel incident happened the belief of God was not exhausted in the people of every nation where scattered through the world.

There are no people who have never heard of god, just people who made the belief work as in a way to seize power till Christ came and showed us all the right way.


Must be difficult when you are in a present day situation and have to decide whether to believe or not. :)
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #911 on: October 04, 2016, 11:50:19 PM »
How does anyone disbelieve in something that's not there to disbelieve in Vlad? I don't disbelieve in unicorns either.

ippy

Yet!  Unicorns are mentioned in the bible.

No one in this day and age have actually seen dinosaurs but they believe they existed.

Leviathan anybody?
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #912 on: October 05, 2016, 12:01:24 AM »
When tribes were discovered they always had he belief in 'a' god.
When the tower of babel incident happened the belief of God was not exhausted in the people of every nation where scattered through the world.

There are no people who have never heard of god, just people who made the belief work as in a way to seize power till Christ came and showed us all the right way.


Must be difficult when you are in a present day situation and have to decide whether to believe or not. :)
Blah blah blah
The astronauts who were witness to actually visiting the moon. Some of them Christians, we're they telling lies about their experiences?
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #913 on: October 05, 2016, 06:43:41 AM »
When tribes were discovered they always had he belief in 'a' god.
When the tower of babel incident happened the belief of God was not exhausted in the people of every nation where scattered through the world.

There are no people who have never heard of god, just people who made the belief work as in a way to seize power till Christ came and showed us all the right way.

That's not quite right.  Theism is a fairly modern belief system and the notion of a single god dates only from the Bronze Age.  For the most part, humans have been animists, belief in spirits, not quite the same thing.

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« Reply #914 on: October 05, 2016, 08:41:44 AM »
Yet!  Unicorns are mentioned in the bible.

No one in this day and age have actually seen dinosaurs but they believe they existed.

Leviathan anybody?

Funnily enough skeletons of dinosaurs have been discovered. Haven't you been to the Natural History Museum?

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #915 on: October 05, 2016, 11:44:45 AM »
Quite easily Ippy.

If you told me you saw one on the way back from the pub one night.

I'd disbelieve that, and think you had had a few to many and your eyes were playing tricks.

It's the same with God. If some bloke tells you he hears God talking to him, I bet you would disbelieve that.

It doesn't matter if what you disbelieve in exists or not, it's the concept you disbelieve in.

The suggestion someone is suggesting to you, should it be little green men in a saucer, or that they found gold at the bottom of the rainbow.

disbelieve
dɪsbɪˈliːv/
verb
be unable to believe.
"he seemed to disbelieve her"
synonyms:   not believe, not credit, give no credence to, discredit, discount, doubt, distrust, mistrust, be suspicious of, have no confidence/faith in, be incredulous of, be unconvinced about; More
have no religious faith.


You are unable to believe in God, therefore you disbelieve.

You really don't get it Rose.

Let me invent something, just for example, 'Extroupuls', I have no reason to think there is something existing somewhere that is called an Extroupul, how am I supposed to disbelieve in something that has no evidence to give me the slightest reason to think that they, Extroupuls exist in the first place, likewise god or gods.

I've yet to see or hear anything that gives me any reason to think there is such a thing called a god, technically I'm not an aleprechaunist either.

ippy

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #916 on: October 05, 2016, 11:57:41 AM »
You really don't get it Rose.

Let me invent something, just for example, 'Extroupuls', I have no reason to think there is something existing somewhere that is called an Extroupul, how am I supposed to disbelieve in something that has no evidence to give me the slightest reason to think that they, Extroupuls exist in the first place, likewise god or gods.

I've yet to see or hear anything that gives me any reason to think there is such a thing called a god, technically I'm not an aleprechaunist either.

ippy


You forgot to mention the Holy Bible Khatru. You can't say it doesn't exist and if it does that could be good reason why millions take it seriously...and perhaps why you should as well.

Now...one thing that Jesus tells us about is the spiritual nature of Almighty God, the spiritual nature of you and I then he tops it all by showing us that even in the worst case scenario, death is obsolete...providing we follow...guess what...his righteous spiritual laws. Obviously this is of no interest to you but it is now becoming obvious that there is an invisible, superabundant material pervading space...it offers free energy we are told and if we read it into our Biblical studies we find that it is a material worthy of a lot more study because it sounds as though all mass in the universe is made from it.

Everlasting life...courtesy of an indestructible energy...but hang on, don't get too excited...we have got to get through these great tribulations first and they are proving to be as serious as the Holy Bible told us they will be.

 


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« Reply #917 on: October 05, 2016, 12:22:47 PM »

You forgot to mention the Holy Bible Khatru. You can't say it doesn't exist and if it does that could be good reason why millions take it seriously...and perhaps why you should as well.

Now...one thing that Jesus tells us about is the spiritual nature of Almighty God, the spiritual nature of you and I then he tops it all by showing us that even in the worst case scenario, death is obsolete...providing we follow...guess what...his righteous spiritual laws. Obviously this is of no interest to you but it is now becoming obvious that there is an invisible, superabundant material pervading space...it offers free energy we are told and if we read it into our Biblical studies we find that it is a material worthy of a lot more study because it sounds as though all mass in the universe is made from it.

Everlasting life...courtesy of an indestructible energy...but hang on, don't get too excited...we have got to get through these great tribulations first and they are proving to be as serious as the Holy Bible told us they will be.

 

Just because some people believe the Bible to be literally true (not all Christians by any means) doesn't mean it is, especially as there is no verifiable evidence to support much of it.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #918 on: October 05, 2016, 12:26:21 PM »
You forgot to mention the Holy Bible Khatru. You can't say it doesn't exist and if it does that could be good reason why millions take it seriously...and perhaps why you should as well

You forgot to mention the Holy Qu'ran Sparkler. You can't say it doesn't exist and if it does that could be good reason why millions take it seriously...and perhaps why you should as well.
 

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #919 on: October 05, 2016, 01:23:32 PM »

When the tower of babel incident happened the belief of God was not exhausted in the people of every nation where scattered through the world.


Better read your Bible again, Sass.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #920 on: October 05, 2016, 01:25:41 PM »
Yet!  Unicorns are mentioned in the bible.

No one in this day and age have actually seen dinosaurs but they believe they existed.

Leviathan anybody?

The evidence for dinosaurs is overwhelming and it comes from pretty much all over the world.

You can't put belief in unicorns on the same shelf as evidence for dinosaurs.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #921 on: October 05, 2016, 02:50:18 PM »

Floo/torridon/Khatru...

The book that tells  us about the electric/spiritual universe and gives us clear teaching on how to function peaceably, healthily and neighbourly, is the right one, underwritten by an amazing truth about this electric world...in righteous hands it can
deliver repair, resurrection, and everlasting life.

Ask the way, the truth and the life.


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« Reply #922 on: October 05, 2016, 03:06:32 PM »
Floo/torridon/Khatru...

The book that tells  us about the electric/spiritual universe and gives us clear teaching on how to function peaceably, healthily and neighbourly, is the right one, underwritten by an amazing truth about this electric world...in righteous hands it can
deliver repair, resurrection, and everlasting life.

Ask the way, the truth and the life.

The word 'electric' is definitely not to be found in the Bible!

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #923 on: October 05, 2016, 04:17:19 PM »
Floo/torridon/Khatru...

The book that tells  us about the electric/spiritual universe and gives us clear teaching on how to function peaceably, healthily and neighbourly, is the right one, underwritten by an amazing truth about this electric world...in righteous hands it can
deliver repair, resurrection, and everlasting life.

Ask the way, the truth and the life.

Is that the same book that instructs us to kill women who aren't virgins on their wedding nights?
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #924 on: October 05, 2016, 07:29:09 PM »
The word 'electric' is definitely not to be found in the Bible!

Electric is used by me to denote a deeper, more modern meaning to our spiritual nature...Floo and I think I have justified this point by showing how the universe is a by product of that electric/spiritual nature which Jesus tells us about and by which he states clearly...God is a Spirit.

So spiritual laws require special spiritual observance if we want to follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ...you don't want to Floo...your  choice but I feel that is sad for reasons mentioned elsewhere in other posts.