The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ

[floo]

So;
I ask again;
What would the world be like today without two millennia of Christian history?
We have nothing with which to compare it.

True, but the evils attributed to that faith wouldn't have existed, it has been too dominant in Britain and other countries. Fortunately it is loosing its grip in the UK

[SteveH]

True, but the evils attributed to that faith wouldn't have existed, it has been too dominant in Britain and other countries. Fortunately it is loosing its grip in the UK

And what evils would they be, pray - the invention of the nursing profession? The abolition of slavery? Parliamentary democracy (which arose exclusively in Christian countries)? The welfare state, the progenitor of which was run by the church? Tear Fund? Christian Aid? The Salvation Army? CAFOD?

[Anchorman]

And what evils would they be, pray - the invention of the nursing profession? The abolition of slavery? Parliamentary democracy (which arose exclusively in Christian countries)? The welfare state, the progenitor of which was run by the church? Tear Fund? Christian Aid? The Salvation Army? CAFOD?

Don't tell her, Pike!

[floo]

I still reckon the bad outweighs the good where that faith is concerned.

[SteveH]

I still reckon the bad outweighs the good where that faith is concerned.

Some evidence or arguments would be nice occasionally, instead of a bare "I think this, I don't think that", which is all we usually get from you.

[floo]

Some evidence or arguments would be nice occasionally, instead of a bare "I think this, I don't think that", which is all we usually get from you.

The Crusades weren't a feather in our caps. The Spanish inquisition was evil. As for those who believe in that extremely nasty 'born again' nastiness, and use it as a method of abusively frightening people into conversion, I can't think of any condemnation bad enough to describe the unpleasantness of being subjected to it, especially if you are a child.    The RCC has been responsible for allowing paedophile priests to continue with their perverted practises! They have treated unmarried mothers shamefully, which is so hypocritical as god supposedly got Mary up the duff before she had a ring on her finger. That will do for starters!

[NicholasMarks]

The Crusades weren't a feather in our caps. The Spanish inquisition was evil. As for those who believe in that extremely nasty 'born again' nastiness, and use it as a method of abusively frightening people into conversion, I can't think of any condemnation bad enough to describe the unpleasantness of being subjected to it, especially if you are a child.    The RCC has been responsible for allowing paedophile priests to continue with their perverted practises! They have treated unmarried mothers shamefully, which is so hypocritical as god supposedly got Mary up the duff before she had a ring on her finger. That will do for starters!

The entire work of the Holy Bible, and in particular the Gospels is telling us just one teaching...that the entire universe, under the authority of Almighty God, is the product of an invisible, superabundant, electric, dynamic energy...and though in its fiercest form it can produce stars and galaxies...by bringing its gentlest form into our daily lives we can achieve a style of living which is of massive advantage to us...over and above the machinations of man.

Of course man, seeing its potential for a good-wage and a life of privilege by scamming the punters have put their own spin on it, but Jesus has warned you all...be careful...because there will be a Judgement and righteousness is the only voice that he and Almighty God will listen to.

 

[floo]

Welcome back NM!

[ippy]

Good to see you on the post again Nick; I've recently moved in to a new house and apparently all of the lighting circuits need to be updated apparently it's not earthed, can you recommend a good electrician?

ippy

[Brownie]

 

Great to see you back here, Nicholas.

[NicholasMarks]

Good to see you on the post again Nick; I've recently moved in to a new house and apparently all of the lighting circuits need to be updated apparently it's not earthed, can you recommend a good electrician?

ippy

Although I can explain how electrons are sent along a wire as the higgs-field becomes exposed and electro-motive force kicks the tiny bundles of energy along it, jumping through the instability so caused...I wouldn't suggest that I am a good recommender of one electrician above another.

I am perhaps better skilled at telling you what happens when, by a similar route, all the electric energy with-in your own body is discharged by electric shock. The trauma is always the same to varying degrees. If, by careful fellowship with Jesus Christ's accurate teaching, you are able to withstand this sort of trauma to some degree you are better able to recover from such a shock of this nature and Wormwood will certainly deliver such a trauma when it passes by. So best to prepare for this as your first priority and ensure your everlasting life by it...Thanks for your greeting.

[Walter]

nick

I get mental images of the pages of a kids comic book when i read your posts. thanks for that . A word of advice, there are people on here who have studied physics so be careful when using scientific terms . I would hate for you to make a fool of yourself .

[Anchorman]

Hi, NM. Good to see you back.

[NicholasMarks]

Hi, NM. Good to see you back.

Thank you Anchorman/Walter/Brownie/ippy/Floo...

Thank you also Walter for your concern. I'm not too concerned about going head to head with Physics experts...I rely on the simple fact that my knowledge unifies what they can't, yet still supports their equations and calculations...That is what is so hard for some to understand...The Holy Bible is written from a much higher level of science than our sciences can currently make too much sense of...but they will because accurate scientific truth is indisputable. We are talking a science that has the proven ability to offer resurrection and a promised everlasting life...so we can see just how far modern science is behind Almighty God and Jesus Christ's...but it is a science open to all those who value righteousness as Jesus taught us and are prepared to follow him...quietly, calmly and accurately.

[Walter]

Thank you Anchorman/Walter/Brownie/ippy/Floo...

Thank you also Walter for your concern. I'm not too concerned about going head to head with Physics experts...I rely on the simple fact that my knowledge unifies what they can't, yet still supports their equations and calculations...That is what is so hard for some to understand...The Holy Bible is written from a much higher level of science than our sciences can currently make too much sense of...but they will because accurate scientific truth is indisputable. We are talking a science that has the proven ability to offer resurrection and a promised everlasting life...so we can see just how far modern science is behind Almighty God and Jesus Christ's...but it is a science open to all those who value righteousness as Jesus taught us and are prepared to follow him...quietly, calmly and accurately.

well, that's alright then!

[floo]

Thank you Anchorman/Walter/Brownie/ippy/Floo...

Thank you also Walter for your concern. I'm not too concerned about going head to head with Physics experts...I rely on the simple fact that my knowledge unifies what they can't, yet still supports their equations and calculations...That is what is so hard for some to understand...The Holy Bible is written from a much higher level of science than our sciences can currently make too much sense of...but they will because accurate scientific truth is indisputable. We are talking a science that has the proven ability to offer resurrection and a promised everlasting life...so we can see just how far modern science is behind Almighty God and Jesus Christ's...but it is a science open to all those who value righteousness as Jesus taught us and are prepared to follow him...quietly, calmly and accurately.

For once words fail me!

[NicholasMarks]

For once words fail me!

What I find hard to understand is that if everything in the universe is made from energy or responds to that energy in some way, why so many, like you Floo, just can't accept that the source of all that energy holds the clues to the entire book of science.

When we have established this, we can easily see that this is what Almighty God is telling us...everything is made from his dynamic energy, including the simple fact that he too is made from all that energy and is, thereby the highest authority in the universe because he has all authority over all that dynamic energy.

In its purest form it is invisible and virtually undetectable...just like dark matter and dark energy. It can compress into particles...it can radiate as waves do, it can inspire all electric and magnetic behaviour...it can build atoms and it can configure itself into galaxies.

There is no beginning and will be no end to its existence except for the beginning and end that Almighty God etched into it when he discovered it and carved a new explanation of creation from it. There is so much that can be gleaned from it but first we must get past our own denial and embrace Almighty God and his much loved son, Jesus Christ, for all their loving work on our behalf.

[Sebastian Toe]

I feel I have outstayed my welcome so I'll leave you to your own devices...perhaps if I see Bashful Anthony posting back on here in the future I might be tempted to return...but I don't hold much hope.

No Bashers posts since you left!
I was holding out so much hope, that you would be good to your word, Nick.

Looks like something (Satan?) has tempted you back though?
What happened at the other place? No converts there either? Shame!

Have you taken any anti-dizzyness pills to prepare you to counteract your circular arguments which will surely happen, soon? (that's 'soon' as in the common English language usage  )

[floo]

What I find hard to understand is that if everything in the universe is made from energy or responds to that energy in some way, why so many, like you Floo, just can't accept that the source of all that energy holds the clues to the entire book of science.

When we have established this, we can easily see that this is what Almighty God is telling us...everything is made from his dynamic energy, including the simple fact that he too is made from all that energy and is, thereby the highest authority in the universe because he has all authority over all that dynamic energy.

In its purest form it is invisible and virtually undetectable...just like dark matter and dark energy. It can compress into particles...it can radiate as waves do, it can inspire all electric and magnetic behaviour...it can build atoms and it can configure itself into galaxies.

There is no beginning and will be no end to its existence except for the beginning and end that Almighty God etched into it when he discovered it and carved a new explanation of creation from it. There is so much that can be gleaned from it but first we must get past our own denial and embrace Almighty God and his much loved son, Jesus Christ, for all their loving work on our behalf.

You might be able to interpret the Bible in that highly unique way, but to most of us your way of looking at it doesn't compute.

[Walter]

Nick

where is this entire book of science ,I want a copy to show to every scientist on the planet . Then they can all give up working and spend more time with their kids or whatever.

[floo]

Nick

where is this entire book of science ,I want a copy to show to every scientist on the planet . Then they can all give up working and spend more time with their kids or whatever.

NM's Biblical 'science' is unique; only he has the copyright!

[Brownie]

I've seen Nicholas explain things, from his point of view, using different terminology and it was more understandable.  People still disagreed of course but that happens with most topics, however it could be read and processed more easily.

[ippy]

Although I can explain how electrons are sent along a wire as the higgs-field becomes exposed and electro-motive force kicks the tiny bundles of energy along it, jumping through the instability so caused...I wouldn't suggest that I am a good recommender of one electrician above another.

I am perhaps better skilled at telling you what happens when, by a similar route, all the electric energy with-in your own body is discharged by electric shock. The trauma is always the same to varying degrees. If, by careful fellowship with Jesus Christ's accurate teaching, you are able to withstand this sort of trauma to some degree you are better able to recover from such a shock of this nature and Wormwood will certainly deliver such a trauma when it passes by. So best to prepare for this as your first priority and ensure your everlasting life by it...Thanks for your greeting.

Nick, are you telling me in a roundabout way that you're not part P qualified?

I only dislike your views not you, you seem to be an allright guy to me, even though I think your ideas are a complete load of nonsense, that incidently, have zero evidence that would support any of the magical, mysterious and superstition based parts of them.

On balance Nick, keep on plugging away, good on you.

ippy

[torridon]

What I find hard to understand is that if everything in the universe is made from energy or responds to that energy in some way, why so many, like you Floo, just can't accept that the source of all that energy holds the clues to the entire book of science.

When we have established this, we can easily see that this is what Almighty God is telling us...everything is made from his dynamic energy, including the simple fact that he too is made from all that energy and is, thereby the highest authority in the universe because he has all authority over all that dynamic energy.

In its purest form it is invisible and virtually undetectable...just like dark matter and dark energy. It can compress into particles...it can radiate as waves do, it can inspire all electric and magnetic behaviour...it can build atoms and it can configure itself into galaxies.

There is no beginning and will be no end to its existence except for the beginning and end that Almighty God etched into it when he discovered it and carved a new explanation of creation from it. There is so much that can be gleaned from it but first we must get past our own denial and embrace Almighty God and his much loved son, Jesus Christ, for all their loving work on our behalf.

Firstly, we could agree that everything is made from energy, in a sense. We already have an understanding of energy, and we have a word for it too - 'energy'.  We don't need to call it God, that just introduces a whole load of cultural baggage and endless opportunities for misunderstanding and unscientific interpretation.  Energy is not sentient; it might be involved in sentience, but it is not sentient and it has no problems with gays or same sex marriage.  Calling energy god just licences people to indulge their personal prejudices.

Secondly, saying god is made of energy is rather circular.  You are saying god is made of god-stuff.  It would be better from your point of view to argue for an irreducible god, one that is not made of anything.

[NicholasMarks]

Firstly, we could agree that everything is made from energy, in a sense. We already have an understanding of energy, and we have a word for it too - 'energy'.  We don't need to call it God, that just introduces a whole load of cultural baggage and endless opportunities for misunderstanding and unscientific interpretation.  Energy is not sentient; it might be involved in sentience, but it is not sentient and it has no problems with gays or same sex marriage.  Calling energy god just licences people to indulge their personal prejudices.

Secondly, saying god is made of energy is rather circular.  You are saying god is made of god-stuff.  It would be better from your point of view to argue for an irreducible god, one that is not made of anything.

Unfortunately torridon...I have to stick to accuracy and truth...and that truth is saying that the Holy Bible is correct in every detail...provable by science...which will have to conclude soon that all their dark matter and dark energy is the birth-force behind all their scientific knowledge, data, and calculations. Because of my spirit of adventure I have sought to manufacture our universe from the clues given in the Holy Bible and clues given by modern science and, in my own naive way to bring that knowledge to those who will listen and in the time span available to us.

If the Holy Bible is true in every detail these are the points we should consider seriously. That in the last days there will be difficult times hard to deal with. Evil will rise-up like a cancerous tumour. There will be wars and rumours of wars...there will be earthquakes and food shortages in diverse  places...there will be a great intrusion of this planetary system by way of the bombardment of rogue heavenly forces including Wormwood and a fiery lake of sulphur and, here, we are just scratching the surface.

It is all very grim but we are warned about it by a very high teacher from a very high authority who tells us how to prepare for such traumas...how to be resurrected, and how to be comforted when it happens. Every one is able to participate in that teaching providing they show appropriate respect to their deity which includes looking at Jesus' teaching again...individually...and allow our thinking to align itself with the authority who will rule us afterwards.

The longer we leave it the harder it will be.