The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ

[torridon]

When you show me how to tap into that invisible, living energy, that's all around us and simply waiting in the wings to support us genetically, and spiritually, without using meekness, righteousness, and the sincere worship of Jesus Christ and his father, Almighty God...I still wouldn't be interested because you didn't die a terrible death just to reach through all that evil fog to show me you believe implicitly in what your loving father tells you, which includes the indestructible electric/spiritual nature of the universe.

Eh ?  Impenetrable word fog, that does not relate to the previous post as far as I can see.

[NicholasMarks]

Eh ?  Impenetrable word fog, that does not relate to the previous post as far as I can see.

I'll try and explain...torridon.

You suggested I should abandon the Holy Bible...I said...plainly, I thought, that the Holy Bible, in particular the Gospels, leads us to God's Living Waters...described in the Holy Bible as a quencher of thirsts that reaches where no other quencher of thirsts can reach. To me...who has studied the spiritual nature of the Holy Bible...Jesus is talking about a spiritual force that nourishes our genetics and by putting it to the test you too can experience what I experience which is a righteous infusion of strength which seems to me to be a cure-all of all ailments...in other words...it is wise for even you torridon to take the teaching of Jesus Christ seriously and, thereby, be saved.

When you know what is supporting genetic repair, you sure as hell know what causes its problems in the first place.

[floo]

But you don't know NM it is only belief on your part, not fact.

[Walter]

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if you are to be saved , and everyone else is dead , where exactly will you be?

[NicholasMarks]

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if you are to be saved , and everyone else is dead , where exactly will you be?

A good point Walter...Well...there are a few million alive today who have put their hopes and faith in Jesus Christ's accurate teaching...there are, I suspect, millions more, who will be awakened by resurrection...basically, because Jesus showed us that those who meet his righteous level of forgiveness will also be resurrected when the last trumpet blows...and even more will be resurrected without even knowing that they are righteous enough for resurrection...their innocence, compassion, and kindness, will see to that...all possible because the invisible force that makes stars and atoms and which will give us repair, resurrection and everlasting life is indestructible, and by following Jesus accurately we stamp our own righteous psyche on our own electric spirit which will be imprinted upon it.

Something of a similar nature happens for all of us but if righteousness isn't of any importance to us then we will just have to take what happens to us on our spiritual chins because the natural result of an insignificant spirit, we are told, is aboard the plasma and structure of a fiery lake of sulphur with no hope of remission, which, at the moment, is on offer if we can repent with sincerity, and in the time now available.

Point being, that there are already many millions who will be saved...so don't worry about me being lonely...that's supposing that I will pass God's Judgement...which I hope and pray for.   

It's all in the Holy Bible.

[Walter]

yes it was a good point but you didn't answer
so again , where will you be?

[NicholasMarks]

yes it was a good point but you didn't answer
so again , where will you be?

It isn't that I'm not answering you Walter...it's that you aren't prepared to listen.

The Holy Bible is the only way of answering your question and it is an imperative that you, if you are interested enough, should seek it out and find out for yourself...but I rather fancy you are just another who argues round and round in circles.

This is useful to me cus I can warn people who don't understand this tactic that it is just a wind-up and is not of any righteous use what-so-ever...in fact, it can cause a lot of spiritual distress if we take it seriously.

 

[Brownie]

I looked up some Bible passages relevant to what you are saying, Nicholas, but I honestly believe there are people who are 'righteous' who do not follow Jesus.  Compassion is not exclusive to Christians.

One example is a humanitarian organisation run by Sikhs;  they go where there is a need, they give love and practical aid, without preaching or proselytising in any way.   There was a very good BBC programme about this a few days ago which I watched.  I was quite knocked out by the bravery and gentle kindness, but others can judge for themselves:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2016/46/the-selfless-sikh

This is where some of your ideas fall down for me.  I'm a Christian but I see God's light in people of other faiths.

[ippy]

I looked up some Bible passages relevant to what you are saying, Nicholas, but I honestly believe there are people who are 'righteous' who do not follow Jesus.  Compassion is not exclusive to Christians.

One example is a humanitarian organisation run by Sikhs;  they go where there is a need, they give love and practical aid, without preaching or proselytising in any way.   There was a very good BBC programme about this a few days ago which I watched.  I was quite knocked out by the bravery and gentle kindness, but others can judge for themselves:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2016/46/the-selfless-sikh

This is where some of your ideas fall down for me.  I'm a Christian but I see God's light in people of other faiths.

Medecins Sans Frontieres, Brownie no magical mystery tour just based on the real world, it's certainly not religion based, religions are here to feed some people's, unfortunately to many people's, vivid imaginations which is fine by me as long as it's not inflicted on me and mine in any way.

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[ippy]

Nick see if you can answer this one without going all around the houses, just a straight answer please, no sermons:

Now, can the bible be used to evidentially prove that the bible's stories, even the magical, mysterious and superstition based stories, are all true stories about factual events? (Even prove the the stories about, as you put it, The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ)?

ippy 

[floo]

I looked up some Bible passages relevant to what you are saying, Nicholas, but I honestly believe there are people who are 'righteous' who do not follow Jesus.  Compassion is not exclusive to Christians.

One example is a humanitarian organisation run by Sikhs;  they go where there is a need, they give love and practical aid, without preaching or proselytising in any way.   There was a very good BBC programme about this a few days ago which I watched.  I was quite knocked out by the bravery and gentle kindness, but others can judge for themselves:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2016/46/the-selfless-sikh

This is where some of your ideas fall down for me.  I'm a Christian but I see God's light in people of other faiths.

There are a lot of good people in this world, and many aren't religious. A lot of very bad people claim to be Christians!

[torridon]

I'll try and explain...torridon.

You suggested I should abandon the Holy Bible...

No, I didn't say that. I pointed out that you were misrepresenting it in saying it was correct in every detail and that all those details were proved by science.  Your penchant for unrestrained hyperbole in matters of all things biblical is unappealing to those who prefer a more measured and honest interpretation.

[NicholasMarks]

Nick see if you can answer this one without going all around the houses, just a straight answer please, no sermons:

Now, can the bible be used to evidentially prove that the bible's stories, even the magical, mysterious and superstition based stories, are all true stories about factual events? (Even prove the the stories about, as you put it, The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ)?

ippy

Yes...except, of course, where parables are used. The entire Holy Bible is a science...The Science of Righteousness...written by an authority that is far more advanced than you are I or in fact any who have ever lived here...other than those guided by righteousness who have seen sense above their intellect and are following the science that will have the last word.

[NicholasMarks]

No, I didn't say that. I pointed out that you were misrepresenting it in saying it was correct in every detail and that all those details were proved by science.  Your penchant for unrestrained hyperbole in matters of all things biblical is unappealing to those who prefer a more measured and honest interpretation.

Science, at its highest level says that the universe began from a singularity...an obvious error...just not possible. The Holy Bible says the universe erupted out of God's dynamic energy which has always been and always will be. When you get the first scientific principle right everything else can be calculated...scientifically...and if modern sciences equations and calculations are, where valid, built into your calculations then, that new science must be valid too. A science that says that resurrection is achievable if we follow that science by its highest laws. Laws that Jesus taught us if we follow him accurately.

A science of this veracity can be taken as correct in all its hard to accept points because the level of that science is so very advanced proven by the fact 10000 years ago Almighty God'sactive forces were travelling around the universe in ways we can only dream about.

[NicholasMarks]

I looked up some Bible passages relevant to what you are saying, Nicholas, but I honestly believe there are people who are 'righteous' who do not follow Jesus.  Compassion is not exclusive to Christians.

One example is a humanitarian organisation run by Sikhs;  they go where there is a need, they give love and practical aid, without preaching or proselytising in any way.   There was a very good BBC programme about this a few days ago which I watched.  I was quite knocked out by the bravery and gentle kindness, but others can judge for themselves:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2016/46/the-selfless-sikh

This is where some of your ideas fall down for me.  I'm a Christian but I see God's light in people of other faiths.

Righteousness is the key here Brownie...and resurrection. Anyone who follows righteousness is upbuilding a righteous spirit...etching their own personality upon an electric force that in meekness stays with us and supports us. Ressurection will deliver such a person to the Judgement in a favourable light...but what he, you, or I cannot escape is that worshipping Almighty God through Jesus Christ's accurate teaching is a science which will deliver everlasting life but your sikh will find this an easy transition...just as all the innocent who haven't even heard of Jesus will.

[Walter]

Science, at its highest level says that the universe began from a singularity...an obvious error...just not possible. The Holy Bible says the universe erupted out of God's dynamic energy which has always been and always will be. When you get the first scientific principle right everything else can be calculated...scientifically...and if modern sciences equations and calculations are, where valid, built into your calculations then, that new science must be valid too. A science that says that resurrection is achievable if we follow that science by its highest laws. Laws that Jesus taught us if we follow him accurately.

A science of this veracity can be taken as correct in all its hard to accept points because the level of that science is so very advanced proven by the fact 10000 years ago Almighty God'sactive forces were travelling around the universe in ways we can only dream about.

WELL, you are good for a laugh ,if nothing else

[floo]

Yes...except, of course, where parables are used. The entire Holy Bible is a science...The Science of Righteousness...written by an authority that is far more advanced than you are I or in fact any who have ever lived here...other than those guided by righteousness who have seen sense above their intellect and are following the science that will have the last word.

Definition of science. The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

As a lot of the Bible is a very human work of fiction, it can hardly be described as having anything to do with science!

[NicholasMarks]

yes it was a good point but you didn't answer
so again , where will you be?

Again Walter, I did answer but by your own admittance you just didn't listen.

I, like you, Walter, will be either spiritually sucked into the electric fabric of a passing rogue heavenly body that is comprised mainly of a fiery lake of sulphur or retained here on planet Earth to participate in a new heavens and a new Earth. The Holy Bible explains it best...I'm just pointing out that there is a valid science supporting the righteous teaching of Almighty God abd Jesus Christ. It cannot possibly fail...we just need faith.

Whatever happens we know that all the tears will be wiped away from the eyes of those that are saved and my guess will be that all injuries inflicted by those who have succeeded by the distress they have caused pre- Judgement...will be heading away on a journey best described as eternal damnation...with no remission.

[NicholasMarks]

Definition of science. The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

As a lot of the Bible is a very human work of fiction, it can hardly be described as having anything to do with science!

When the scientist has done all the work...as per your definition...all the rest have to do is follow the princples esrablished by the science. Almighty God is lead scientist here and Jesus Christ is his assembly language to a science whose pure code passes all understanding...as proven by all atheists. But the faithful know better because that science freely works within them and around them

[Walter]

Again Walter, I did answer but by your own admittance you just didn't listen.

I, like you, Walter, will be either spiritually sucked into the electric fabric of a passing rogue heavenly body that is comprised mainly of a fiery lake of sulphur or retained here on planet Earth to participate in a new heavens and a new Earth. The Holy Bible explains it best...I'm just pointing out that there is a valid science supporting the righteous teaching of Almighty God abd Jesus Christ. It cannot possibly fail...we just need faith.

Whatever happens we know that all the tears will be wiped away from the eyes of those that are saved and my guess will be that all injuries inflicted by those who have succeeded by the distress they have caused pre- Judgement...will be heading away on a journey best described as eternal damnation...with no remission.

at last, an answer, you will remain on earth. thank you .

[floo]

When the scientist has done all the work...as per your definition...all the rest have to do is follow the princples esrablished by the science. Almighty God is lead scientist here and Jesus Christ is his assembly language to a science whose pure code passes all understanding...as proven by all atheists. But the faithful know better because that science freely works within them and around them

If god is a scientist, it isn't a very good one, it has screwed up BIG TIME!

[Walter]

When the scientist has done all the work...as per your definition...all the rest have to do is follow the princples esrablished by the science. Almighty God is lead scientist here and Jesus Christ is his assembly language to a science whose pure code passes all understanding...as proven by all atheists. But the faithful know better because that science freely works within them and around them

I'm going to make a suggestion Nick,
put your bible away for a couple of years , get yourself some chemistry, biology, physics books and LEARN.
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[floo]

I'm going to make a suggestion Nick,
put your bible away for a couple of years , get yourself some chemistry, biology, physics books and LEARN.
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Good suggestion, but one NM won't follow up because he firmly believes he has it all sussed!

[NicholasMarks]

at last, an answer, you will remain on earth. thank you .

Even that is questionable...because some will go to Heaven. Only a few...but those who have met the highest criteria set by Jesus Christ will indeed go to Heaven. This would mean that they fit in well with others who follow the same universal code of righteousness...and I don't even suggest I come close.

However...Heaven on Earth the home for all those who now value righteousness and meekness. These will inherit paradise  Earth..or didn't you know that??

[NicholasMarks]

I'm going to make a suggestion Nick,
put your bible away for a couple of years , get yourself some chemistry, biology, physics books and LEARN.
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I'm going ro make a suggestion to you Walter and Floo...maybe I already have...and am working from the knowledge gleaned