The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ

[ippy]

You seem to think that going round and round in circles is something new or clever, ippy...but it isn't. I gave you the benefit of the doubt first time but you are obviously jammed in your self denial...proven by your glaring Biblical slurs.

You too have a closed mind on the subject and I see this as an emotional problem you must deal with...especially as it is part of the righteous repair the science demands. Jesus taught us to embrace a calm, peaceful, caring spirit and this is my advice to you. If our genetic health is flapping all the while then they too can't switch off...our cells replicate wildly and its not long before unwanted genetic change takes place...This is courtesy of Jesus' righteous science...Take it or leave it.

How can you know this Jesus you keep referring to is the son of your god when you haven't managed to supply any evidence that would endorse that he is in fact the son of this god figure of yours?

I'm sure you do think Jesus is the son of your god figure, but you only believe he is you don't know he is because you haven't got any evidence that would establish that he is in fact the son of this god figure of yours

If you have got some viable evidence that proves beyond any doubt that this Jesus bloke is the son of your god figure, where is it?

You never answer this sort of question, whatever it is that you think is an answer is invariably something completely off topic and leaves me thinking, "what was that all about"?

Do you ever speak to anyone without giving a sermon Nick?

It looks like I may as well accept that you haven't got the mental capacity to be able to give me a direct answer to any question

ippy

P S there wouldn't be anything circular if you answered the actual questions asked of you.

[NicholasMarks]

How can you know this Jesus you keep referring to is the son of your god when you haven't managed to supply any evidence that would endorse that he is in fact the son of this god figure of yours?

I'm sure you do think Jesus is the son of your god figure, but you only believe he is you don't know he is because you haven't got any evidence that would establish that he is in fact the son of this god figure of yours

If you have got some viable evidence that proves beyond any doubt that this Jesus bloke is the son of your god figure, where is it?

You never answer this sort of question, whatever it is that you think is an answer is invariably something completely off topic and leaves me thinking, "what was that all about"?

Do you ever speak to anyone without giving a sermon Nick?

It looks like I may as well accept that you haven't got the mental capacity to be able to give me a direct answer to any question

ippy

P S there wouldn't be anything circular if you answered the actual questions asked of you.

Circular argument ippy...I answer only to show others who have to deal with difficult customers that they will grind you down unless you stick closely to the teaching that Jesus died teaching us. The science is indisputable...It is contained within the Holy Bible...It starts with Almighty God telling us what he created the universe with...his invisible, superabundant, dynamic energy. Science has its own version of this energy so it is scurrilous to pretend or ignore the fact that Almighty God told us about it 4000 years ago. We can also use the same material to identify, accurately, what Jesus was teaching us when he talked about God's Living Waters...a wonderful electrical force that reaches into the depths of our genetic health and is well able to benefit us in ways that a closed mind can never understand.

It's a shame that some want to try and blow Jesus out of the water even when the last days are sweeping into our lives...but not every one will be saved and a preparedness to take in righteousness as Jesus Christ, alone, teaches us, is the only way to be strong enough and prepared enough for what is coming.

This puts Jesus Christ on the highest rung of the scientific ladder and it is a shame that whilst we have his teaching in our midst that many prefer to let scurrilous people wind us up and thereby steal away the very force that offers us all resurrection, repair and ultimately everlasting life...but it is a fact of life.

 

[Sebastian Toe]

Your asking a question I can't really answer Seb. You already know that no one but Almighty God knows the hour or the day...we are left with reading the signs. Signs like the attitude of people towards righteousness and their Deity. The conditions of the planet whereby it is screwed to the limit by commercial greed, waste and disfigurement. That the planet is displaying alarming faults in the way of wars, earthquakes, climate change, magnetic field disturbances, and mass die offs of many different species...all indicating that something is happening which can be traced to a planetary upheaval of the type spoken about in Revelation. Even the flight of many people with Jesus saying he hoped wouldn't happen in winter.

The whole world is being wound up to the max and only Almighty God appears to know what is happening. He tells us to stick with righteousness to the bitter end promising rewards for those that do. Its God's way to warn us of a natural disaster, looming, that will serve as a Judgement in righteousness...but when exactly it will happen...I can't tell you...best to repent anyway because the alternative wont be nice.

Woooooooshhhhhhhhh...........

[ippy]

Circular argument ippy...I answer only to show others who have to deal with difficult customers that they will grind you down unless you stick closely to the teaching that Jesus died teaching us. The science is indisputable...It is contained within the Holy Bible...It starts with Almighty God telling us what he created the universe with...his invisible, superabundant, dynamic energy. Science has its own version of this energy so it is scurrilous to pretend or ignore the fact that Almighty God told us about it 4000 years ago. We can also use the same material to identify, accurately, what Jesus was teaching us when he talked about God's Living Waters...a wonderful electrical force that reaches into the depths of our genetic health and is well able to benefit us in ways that a closed mind can never understand.

It's a shame that some want to try and blow Jesus out of the water even when the last days are sweeping into our lives...but not every one will be saved and a preparedness to take in righteousness as Jesus Christ, alone, teaches us, is the only way to be strong enough and prepared enough for what is coming.

This puts Jesus Christ on the highest rung of the scientific ladder and it is a shame that whilst we have his teaching in our midst that many prefer to let scurrilous people wind us up and thereby steal away the very force that offers us all resurrection, repair and ultimately everlasting life...but it is a fact of life.

Nick, have you got any viable evidence that would prove beyond any doubt that this Jesus bloke that you think is the son of your god figure, was in actual fact the son of your god idea?

ippy

[Sassy]

Why wont you give a straight answer Nick?

A straight answer to my post 1117 on this thread Nick, what's wrong?

I've not asked for any of the stuff you've put in to this irrelevant post Nick.

ippy

Why don't you provide a straight answer. Prove all the theories of science are not theory but fact and show us the evidence...

You see Ippy it is all faith...

[NicholasMarks]

Nick, have you got any viable evidence that would prove beyond any doubt that this Jesus bloke that you think is the son of your god figure, was in actual fact the son of your god idea?

ippy

Yes I do ippy...of course you will find it impossible to accept but you aren't bothering to read your Holy Bible...so how can you expect to understand things of a delicate and technical nature concerning the authority that will determine your Judgement.??

We have the Holy Bible which tells us that Jesus is the witness of Almighty God and Almighty God bears witness to Jesus...which means that Jesus taught us how Almighty God was ordained into his indestructible status...only Almighty God did it in Heaven whilst Jesus repeated it on planet Earth. They both took an indestructible energy and refined it into a force that can overpower all evil. Now, if the result of the first event is Almighty God, the spiritual owner of all knowledge and the personification of all that energy that created the universe...then the second person to achieve that high status is certainly the son of the first.

All those from Heaven honour and respect this status because it gave them everlasting life as well...and so will we when we have mastered the same righteous techniques...but we have got to believe what we are taught first, and what we are taught is that there is a massive upheaval due to cause havoc here on planet Earth and unless we have taken appropriate righteous action, beforehand, we haven't a hope or a prayer...but the Judgement will be on the side of righteousness.

My advice to everyone who is able, is to follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ and claim a place aboard that new heavens and a new Earth...and quickly.



 

[floo]

The Bible is NOT proof, anymore than the Harry Potter books, which are a better read, are proof that Voldemort exists, for instance!

[NicholasMarks]

The Bible is NOT proof, anymore than the Harry Potter books, which are a better read, are proof that Voldemort exists, for instance!

I would suggest Floo that if the Holy Bible, which has built and maintained a nation for 10000 years...has forced many tyrants to make room for it in their tyranny...has been the source of much comfort during wars, grief, humanity and hope...has stuck by its single principle of truth and has become a scientific  authority especially over the indestructible energy that created the universe...has held the minds of millions...then one of us is right and the other is wrong...I suppose we could both be right really because you are leaving yourself wide open for whatever happens in your future and I am taking precautions for what I know will happen.

 

[floo]

Oh NM you do talk complete nonsense, none of the documents making up the Bible have been around for 10,000 years!

Even this article, which is written by a Bible believer, doesn't think it more than 1,500 years old!


http://www.everystudent.com/features/bible.html

[NicholasMarks]

Oh NM you do talk complete nonsense, none of the documents making up the Bible have been around for 10,000 years!

Even this article, which is written by a Bible believer, doesn't think it more than 1,500 years old!


http://www.everystudent.com/features/bible.html

Ohhhhh Floo...Perhaps I was referring to the Old Testament and the creation of the Jewish nation when I said that and perhaps I thought that people who read it might realise that and give me a little poetic licence....how wrong I can be.

Now...the Earth may have been around for a few billion years and though life may have evolved upon it previously we have to accept that the planet had become void and within the last 10000 years Almighty God had resurrected it...returned it to its life supporting status...and also decided to leave a manual to help us know how it all began. It appears that Adam and Eve had eaten from a forbidden fruit and this corrupted their genetics and death came into their otherwise indestructible lives...but Floo...now is the time to think a little deeper and realise that unless we use that manual properly that 10000 years is all we'll get...on planet Earth, anyway.



 

[floo]

Ohhhhh Floo...Perhaps I was referring to the Old Testament and the creation of the Jewish nation when I said that and perhaps I thought that people who read it might realise that and give me a little poetic licence....how wrong I can be.

Now...the Earth may have been around for a few billion years and though life may have evolved upon it previously we have to accept that the planet had become void and within the last 10000 years Almighty God had resurrected it...returned it to its life supporting status...and also decided to leave a manual to help us know how it all began. It appears that Adam and Eve had eaten from a forbidden fruit and this corrupted their genetics and death came into their otherwise indestructible lives...but Floo...now is the time to think a little deeper and realise that unless we use that manual properly that 10000 years is all we'll get...on planet Earth, anyway.

You have just made that up!

[Brownie]

I don't think so, floo.  I got what he meant.

[floo]

I don't think so, floo.  I got what he meant.

Well I am glad you did, his silly nonsense is often hard to make out!

[torridon]

Now...the Earth may have been around for a few billion years and though life may have evolved upon it previously we have to accept that the planet had become void and within the last 10000 years Almighty God had resurrected it...returned it to its life supporting status...and also decided to leave a manual to help us know how it all began. It appears that Adam and Eve had eaten from a forbidden fruit and this corrupted their genetics and death came into their otherwise indestructible lives...but Floo...now is the time to think a little deeper and realise that unless we use that manual properly that 10000 years is all we'll get...on planet Earth, anyway.

In the interests of accuracy, your dates are waaaaaaay out, life began 3.4 billion years ago give or take a bit and despite numerous traumas there is no evidence of the planet having become lifeless since then. Life, it seems, it very persistant.  The last 10,000 years is neither here nor there in planetary timescales.

[Sebastian Toe]

but Floo...now is the time to think a little deeper and realise that unless we use that manual properly that 10000 years is all we'll get...on planet Earth, anyway.

But Nick, nobody knows the day or the hour!
So regardless of the use or misuse of the manual, you cannot possibly state whether 10000 or 110000years iis likely or not. Can you Nick?
Unless there is something that you are not telling us?

[NicholasMarks]

In the interests of accuracy, your dates are waaaaaaay out, life began 3.4 billion years ago give or take a bit and despite numerous traumas there is no evidence of the planet having become lifeless since then. Life, it seems, it very persistant.  The last 10,000 years is neither here nor there in planetary timescales.

There is a lot of scientific controversy on this point torridon but I have used the Holy Bible as absolute truth and science a contributing factor. I have agreed the the planet has been around much longer than th e 10000 years but it was void and darkness was on the face of the watery deep...a simple statement which tells us the planet had become tidally locked...presumably after a massive planetary catastrophe of the type that this Nemesis system is threatening us with today. Obviously Almighty God chose this planet for his project because he could quickly restart it and all seed that was already in the earth  would give forth its life.

Now...when resurrecting a planet is done quickly and is subsequently flooded all over I doubt whether any clues of that flood will be forthcoming and I suggest that this gives a little room to suggest the planet was resurrected God's way...with one mighty spin.

[NicholasMarks]

But Nick, nobody knows the day or the hour!
So regardless of the use or misuse of the manual, you cannot possibly state whether 10000 or 110000years iis likely or not. Can you Nick?
Unless there is something that you are not telling us?

Seb...I know I've been through this one with you many times before. I have to agree in principle...no one but Almighty God knows the hour or the day...but there are signs to guide us which might just narrow it down to the final years and perhaps the final months...and the signs are certainly suggesting that we are certainly living in those 'last days.'

Following Jesus should be our own individual desire because after many wars we ought to know there will be no end to them just as there will be no end to poor health and its oppressive forces unless Almighty God and Jesus Christ lends a hand...and they have told us they will in the form of a Great Judgement...the rest is up to the individual.

[torridon]

There is a lot of scientific controversy on this point torridon but I have used the Holy Bible as absolute truth and science a contributing factor. I have agreed the the planet has been around much longer than th e 10000 years but it was void and darkness was on the face of the watery deep...a simple statement which tells us the planet had become tidally locked...presumably after a massive planetary catastrophe of the type that this Nemesis system is threatening us with today. Obviously Almighty God chose this planet for his project because he could quickly restart it and all seed that was already in the earth  would give forth its life.

Now...when resurrecting a planet is done quickly and is subsequently flooded all over I doubt whether any clues of that flood will be forthcoming and I suggest that this gives a little room to suggest the planet was resurrected God's way...with one mighty spin.

This post even more inaccurate than the previous I'm afraid.  You'd need to go back 3.5 billion years to find the planet void of life and even then it was not dark, the sun was shining then also.  Tidal locking has nothing to do with 'watery deep', it is a statement about the nature of the lunar orbit; the planet has not been flooded all over, although it might have been iced over in a previous ice age.  There has been plenty of life on the planet prior to 10,000 years ago; take a google at the Carboniferous for instance, the planet was brimming with abundant life.

Apart from that though ...

[NicholasMarks]

Well I am glad you did, his silly nonsense is often hard to make out!

You will never understand me or the Holy Bible unless you read God's word accurately and honestly Floo.

The 'word'  of God is a wonderful science and Jesus delivered that science in all its life supporting ways so that those who follow him will never die. They might cast off the old, stale, worn out, shell...but spiritually never die...and when we have got the science fully under our belts even the carcass will be renewable...so the Bible student is told and even modern science suggests that the living cell should never die and we also know that selected cells yield continuation of the species so that Adam and you have a common gene.

[floo]

You will never understand me or the Holy Bible unless you read God's word accurately and honestly Floo.

The 'word'  of God is a wonderful science and Jesus delivered that science in all its life supporting ways so that those who follow him will never die. They might cast off the old, stale, worn out, shell...but spiritually never die...and when we have got the science fully under our belts even the carcass will be renewable...so the Bible student is told and even modern science suggests that the living cell should never die and we also know that selected cells yield continuation of the species so that Adam and you have a common gene.

What you mean NM is to read the Bible with your peculiar take on it!

[NicholasMarks]

This post even more inaccurate than the previous I'm afraid.  You'd need to go back 3.5 billion years to find the planet void of life and even then it was not dark, the sun was shining then also.  Tidal locking has nothing to do with 'watery deep', it is a statement about the nature of the lunar orbit; the planet has not been flooded all over, although it might have been iced over in a previous ice age.  There has been plenty of life on the planet prior to 10,000 years ago; take a google at the Carboniferous for instance, the planet was brimming with abundant life.

Apart from that though ...

The Holy Bible is so full of serious truths that where it can't be understood or appears to contradict science I err on the side of righteousness.

If this planet was under threat in the way I describe then a universal authority would have prior knowedge and be ready to assess the damage imediatley it was safe to do so.  The report back to Almighy God would go something like this...Planet tidally locked...inaccesable from the side facing the sun but the side facing the abyss is accessable...it is in total darkness but the seas have all gathered on that side...the atmosphere is completely lost...all life and its support sytems lost as well. It does appear recoverable.

Almighty God replied...give it a little spin and see what happens...They did and God saw that it was good...hence he had just the project in mind to suit it...and regardless of things science misreads  or I cannot prove He went ahead anyway.

                                                                         

[torridon]

The Holy Bible is so full of serious truths that where it can't be understood or appears to contradict science I err on the side of righteousness.

If this planet was under threat in the way I describe then a universal authority would have prior knowedge and be ready to assess the damage imediatley it was safe to do so.  The report back to Almighy God would go something like this...Planet tidally locked...inaccesable from the side facing the sun but the side facing the abyss is accessable...it is in total darkness but the seas have all gathered on that side...the atmosphere is completely lost...all life and its support sytems lost as well. It does appear recoverable.

Almighty God replied...give it a little spin and see what happens...They did and God saw that it was good...hence he had just the project in mind to suit it...and regardless of things science misreads  or I cannot prove He went ahead anyway.

                                                                         

This would be all very nice storybook fiction for Sunday Schoolers around age 3 to 6, I would say.  Beats me why you would post it up here to an audience of adults 

[NicholasMarks]

What you mean NM is to read the Bible with your peculiar take on it!

Absolutely not Floo...read the Holy Bible via the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ...as you alone interpret it. You have seen for yourself the contradictions made by iniquity so avoid them and follow Jesus...then perhaps you will be writing your own nonsense but which makes wonderful sense to you and those who do likewise.

[NicholasMarks]

This would be all very nice storybook fiction for Sunday Schoolers around age 3 to 6, I would say.  Beats me why you would post it up here to an audience of adults 

It may be a bit Janet and John torri...but it is an alternative which science can't disprove and if there is one stance that science can't disprove  there could be another way of looking at  it which is totally true because it is how Almighty God did it but it will not conflict with Genesis.

[Sebastian Toe]

and the signs are certainly suggesting that we are certainly living in those 'last days.'

So, sometime between some days and several thousand years?
Too broad Nick.
Come back when you have narrowed it down.