The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ

[Anchorman]

trippymonkey/torridon...

The Holy Bible, and in particular Revelation, tells us of an impending danger that will face us all. It is of the size and dimension of such proportions that God said of it that there would be no survivors if he didn't get involved...but because of the faithful, he will get involved. We haven't got time to be atheist...it is coming and observers are saying that this rogue celestial system is already here. The point neither of you are considering is that every single one of us has a spirit that could be resurrected...but, even if it can't be, it would just roam around the ether until it is freed by righteous consideration...Deciding you don't want to be part of it, doesn't hold up...if you can't repent, the natural consequences of this disaster, which is two pronged since Satan has devised his pincer-movement to coincide with this celestial event, will spiritually snatch those with no righteous justification to remain here, out into space...in the twinkling of an eye...and it will be too late to say to yourself, I ought to have been kinder...and listened...or, not interpreted a honest source of warning, based upon Biblical truth, as hostile.

My advice would be...repent and start reading about Jesus Christ so that you may be exonerated from all of your sins which brought all our genetic chaos into the world.

 

 
NM: this is trash.
Simply fanciful nonsense which deviates so far from any Christian and even quasi-Christian theology that, far from attracticting anyone to Christ, it detracts from the cause of Christ.
If you follow Christ - accurately, of course - you will, of course be a member of a Christian church - or even a quasiChristian group such as the JWs.
Can I please suggest you consult the minister/pastor/elder of yor church, who, if you follow Christ - accurately - you should accept as ordained by God?
I'm sure they will be able to correct your blatent misunderstandings.

[NicholasMarks]

Lurid fanciful nonsense with no basis in reality.  Whatever it is that you've been smoking, perhaps you should consider giving it up.

A new day requires new tactics torry...It is an electric universe and all those wild electric laws have been harnessed and refined into righteous spiritual laws so that those who have an interest in good behaviour by everyone, for everyone, can inherit a universe driven by those righteous spiritual laws. Refusing to participate carries its own penalties, driven by those wild electric laws.

Gravity has teased scientists for many years but here is the electric universe version...as I see it...and it is an essential part of making sense of how the true spiritual universe works.

Gravity is an imploding force triggered by the disturbances created between this twin dimensional universe. These dimensions work at two different speeds one is expanding at the speeds recorded by science, which is very fast, achieving speeds of upto the speed of light...this is the dimension we live in...cushioned from the pre-big-bang universe that isn't moving at all...it is the static dimension...where once a static raw material, God's dynamic energy, just drifted around, building up into huge, dense clouds. Wherever there was once a cloud now stands a galaxy...relatively speaking. We don't fully realise this high-speed state we are in because the entire Milky Way is doing it too, but it is all contained within the remnant of that original, pre-big-bang cloud...which is now stars and atoms and the remains of that original cloud they are all made from. Warp that static dimension with mass and we get gravity and much more besides...especially a deeper and more meaningful understanding of our universe, and of God's 'word'...the science of righteousness.

Phew...I needed that.

 

[NicholasMarks]

 
NM: this is trash.
Simply fanciful nonsense which deviates so far from any Christian and even quasi-Christian theology that, far from attracticting anyone to Christ, it detracts from the cause of Christ.
If you follow Christ - accurately, of course - you will, of course be a member of a Christian church - or even a quasiChristian group such as the JWs.
Can I please suggest you consult the minister/pastor/elder of yor church, who, if you follow Christ - accurately - you should accept as ordained by God?
I'm sure they will be able to correct your blatent misunderstandings.

You must read Revelation again Anchorman...It all hinges upon the last trumpet...God's Judgement...the fiery lake of sulphur...and the global chaos that would leave no one saved without Jesus Christ's teaching. Following Jesus is following his science...and nothing I say can influence that.

 

[NicholasMarks]

Whatever it is they  say that they are "observing"...its not what you want it to be.
Maybe you should look for yourself to confirm it?

Hello Seb...The first thing I learnt about life-saving was that if they are bigger than you and stronger than you let them swallow a bit of water before you go in after them...that same principle must apply here...had you the advantage of Biblical insight you would have already seen the signs in the skies but when it's presence is made obvious you will know what to do because a Christian has already told you.

[Anchorman]

You must read Revelation again Anchorman...It all hinges upon the last trumpet...God's Judgement...the fiery lake of sulphur...and the global chaos that would leave no one saved without Jesus Christ's teaching. Following Jesus is following his science...and nothing I say can influence that.

     


I HAVE read Revelation,many times, in many translations, including, as I said earlier, the original Koine Greek, NM.
Equally I have read the Paulile letters....so again, I urge you, since you, too, have read Paul, to submit yourself to your elder, pastor or minister for instruction.
After all, that's just as Scriptural as Revelation.

[torridon]

A new day requires new tactics torry...It is an electric universe and all those wild electric laws have been harnessed and refined into righteous spiritual laws so that those who have an interest in good behaviour by everyone, for everyone, can inherit a universe driven by those righteous spiritual laws. Refusing to participate carries its own penalties, driven by those wild electric laws.

Gravity has teased scientists for many years but here is the electric universe version...as I see it...and it is an essential part of making sense of how the true spiritual universe works.

Gravity is an imploding force triggered by the disturbances created between this twin dimensional universe. These dimensions work at two different speeds one is expanding at the speeds recorded by science, which is very fast, achieving speeds of upto the speed of light...this is the dimension we live in...cushioned from the pre-big-bang universe that isn't moving at all...it is the static dimension...where once a static raw material, God's dynamic energy, just drifted around, building up into huge, dense clouds. Wherever there was once a cloud now stands a galaxy...relatively speaking. We don't fully realise this high-speed state we are in because the entire Milky Way is doing it too, but it is all contained within the remnant of that original, pre-big-bang cloud...which is now stars and atoms and the remains of that original cloud they are all made from. Warp that static dimension with mass and we get gravity and much more besides...especially a deeper and more meaningful understanding of our universe, and of God's 'word'...the science of righteousness.

Phew...I needed that.

You see it all wrong though.  Gravity is not an imploding force, it is the curvature of the spacetime continuum; and righteousness has nothing to do with electricity.

[Sebastian Toe]

....seen the signs in the skies......

Which ones?
Where are they?
Are they still there?
When did you first see them?
Can you still see them now?
Can you help by pointing them out to me?

[Anchorman]

Wot.....der sky? It are der big blue ting wid der yellow baall in it, innit?Derefore der world's in a helluva mess......

[ippy]

Anybody not just you Nick, anybody that thinks the bible proves the bible has a problem and if you happen to be one of those people it wouldn't be a bad idea to go and see if you can find some kind of helpful advice somewhere about your problem.

Kind regards to you Nick, ippy.

[Dicky Underpants]

Gravity has teased scientists for many years but here is the electric universe version...as I see it...and it is an essential part of making sense of how the true spiritual universe works.

Yes, indeed, Nick. Everything is "as you see it". Pity that no distinguished biblical scholars, sincere Christians - and certainly no one with the remotest grasp of science (let alone the Einsteins, Plancks, Hawkngs and Diracs of this world) - see it as you do.

[Dicky Underpants]

Anybody not just you Nick, anybody that thinks the bible proves the bible has a problem and if you happen to be one of those people it wouldn't be a bad idea to go and see if you can find some kind of helpful advice somewhere about your problem.

Kind regards to you Nick, ippy.

That would indeed be a problem, ippy, if it were merely that Nick thinks the Bible proves the Bible. In fact, what he rambles on about has only the slightest tangential reference to the Bible - just the few texts (in a dodgy translation) that have caught his interest. The rest is fantasy piled upon fantasy, given justification in his own eyes by throwing in irrelevant references to 'science' and garbled ideas culled from the more recherche areas of physics - about which he understands bugger all - and stirred into a turgid soup of meaningless waffle.

[ippy]

That would indeed be a problem, ippy, if it were merely that Nick thinks the Bible proves the Bible. In fact, what he rambles on about has only the slightest tangential reference to the Bible - just the few texts (in a dodgy translation) that have caught his interest. The rest is fantasy piled upon fantasy, given justification in his own eyes by throwing in irrelevant references to 'science' and garbled ideas culled from the more recherche areas of physics - about which he understands bugger all - and stirred into a turgid soup of meaningless waffle.

I'm trying to kind to Nick and also for the reason I would be breaking forum rule if I were to continue, a forum rule that I don't think is completely there but is somewhere near to reasonable.

Anyway I'm off now to have my superabundant righteously electrical magnetic dinner with gravity and all of the trimmings.

Regards ippy

[NicholasMarks]

Anchorman/ippy/Dicky/Seb/torri...

As I have said...It is perhaps wise to let you all swallow a little water, so that you find out for yourselves about the 'great tribulations' which are fast approaching. I'm surprised Anchorman that you deride Jesus when you ridicule his words about looking into the heavens for signs of these terrible times, hard to deal with, but, of course, you are believing in your pastors rather than the accurate teaching of Jesus....These pastors are probably the ones who are an offshoot of Constantine's warped Christianity, who have many clergy who have sinned over and over...will tell you that everyone, regardless, are all going to Heaven...and have various national scandals of a scurrilous nature impregnated into their secret doctrines...These ones won't be going anywhere except the fiery lake of sulphur. You attack me for going directly to Jesus Christ for my studies yet Jesus applauds us for doing just that stating that we, individually, must go to Jesus in his words, 'No one comes to the father, except through me (Jesus Christ)'...and there is no caveat that says that those responsible for witch-hunts, child molestation, or savage distortion of God's accurate 'word' will be going to Heaven. I have justified my position by showing how God's science works, unifying all aspects of that fundamental science with  modern, scientific, data, but, as far as the scientific community are concerned, they have been unsuccessful...My success in this area is because I took the Holy Bible literally...realising that when God said his knowledge far exceeds ours he is saying he is the owner of all scientific knowledge, far in advance of our own, and gives us many clues through his 'word made flesh'...but of course...by you amalgamating these two witnesses of righteousness, against their expressed teaching, you have said that the other of them doesn't exist and that is pretty mean when you realise that the one bears witness of the other, and vice versa. Read the 'word' and not the version that has been sabotaged...If you require further proof on this point see what Jesus says to the seven churches, in the opening chapters of Revelation,...He says to each of them...go back to the original teaching, the teaching he taught, else some risk being abandoned. 

ps...I have just had notification from a youtube channel...   The Two Preachers   ...who are documenting many of the great tribulations that are now happening worldwide...you may care to look....I'm not involved with them in any way...other than Jesus Christ, of course.    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypYurOP3O-Y&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=4gtNOeoi-v1yHQnZ-6

     

[Anchorman]

Anchorman/ippy/Dicky/Seb/torri...

As I have said...It is perhaps wise to let you all swallow a little water, so that you find out for yourselves about the 'great tribulations' which are fast approaching. I'm surprised Anchorman that you deride Jesus when you ridicule his words about looking into the heavens for signs of these terrible times, hard to deal with, but, of course, you are believing in your pastors rather than the accurate teaching of Jesus....These pastors are probably the ones who are an offshoot of Constantine's warped Christianity, who have many clergy who have sinned over and over...will tell you that everyone, regardless, are all going to Heaven...and have various national scandals of a scurrilous nature impregnated into their secret doctrines...These ones won't be going anywhere except the fiery lake of sulphur. You attack me for going directly to Jesus Christ for my studies yet Jesus applauds us for doing just that stating that we, individually, must go to Jesus in his words, 'No one comes to the father, except through me (Jesus Christ)'...and there is no caveat that says that those responsible for witch-hunts, child molestation, or savage distortion of God's accurate 'word' will be going to Heaven. I have justified my position by showing how God's science works, unifying all aspects of that fundamental science with  modern, scientific, data, but, as far as the scientific community are concerned, they have been unsuccessful...My success in this area is because I took the Holy Bible literally...realising that when God said his knowledge far exceeds ours he is saying he is the owner of all scientific knowledge, far in advance of our own, and gives us many clues through his 'word made flesh'...but of course...by you amalgamating these two witnesses of righteousness, against their expressed teaching, you have said that the other of them doesn't exist and that is pretty mean when you realise that the one bears witness of the other, and vice versa. Read the 'word' and not the version that has been sabotaged...If you require further proof on this point see what Jesus says to the seven churches, in the opening chapters of Revelation,...He says to each of them...go back to the original teaching, the teaching he taught, else some risk being abandoned. 

ps...I have just had notification from a youtube channel...   The Two Preachers   ...who are documenting many of the great tribulations that are now happening worldwide...you may care to look....I'm not involved with them in any way...other than Jesus Christ, of course.    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypYurOP3O-Y&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=4gtNOeoi-v1yHQnZ-6

     

No fan of Constantine, NM, try afain.
As for taking anything away from Chhrist?
Far from it...That would be the Jesus who will come "like a thief in the night' when 'no-one knows the day or the hour'?
The Jesus who commanded His followers to preach the Gospel, not invent pseudoscientific drivel whidh shames it?
The Jesus who chose Paul - the Paul who asked those who believe to submit to thr correction of the elders in the church?
Are yoy submitting to the discipline of the elders in your church - fellowship or whatever? Because that, NM, is a Biblical injunction. Failure to do so is failing to follow the "accurate teaching" of Scripture.
And not a reference to dynamic accurate gravitational electric righteousness, either.

[NicholasMarks]

No fan of Constantine, NM, try afain.
As for taking anything away from Chhrist?
Far from it...That would be the Jesus who will come "like a thief in the night' when 'no-one knows the day or the hour'?
The Jesus who commanded His followers to preach the Gospel, not invent pseudoscientific drivel whidh shames it?
The Jesus who chose Paul - the Paul who asked those who believe to submit to thr correction of the elders in the church?
Are yoy submitting to the discipline of the elders in your church - fellowship or whatever? Because that, NM, is a Biblical injunction. Failure to do so is failing to follow the "accurate teaching" of Scripture.
And not a reference to dynamic accurate gravitational electric righteousness, either.

Anchorman…(pseudoscientific drivel, hmmmm)

If a science is Biblically driven, which mine is, then Almighty God and Jesus Christ’s righteous teaching is stamped all over it…an omnipotent God must have an omnipotent science to support him. The key principle of that science is that it must carry and support the accurate word of Jesus Christ…which, of course, I claim this science does.

Here is its first principle, gleaned from the Holy Bible…That the universe is composed of two key dimensions…ours and God’s. To reach into that primary dimension of God’s we must follow specific laws as taught to us by Jesus. Jesus wasn’t talking into the air, he was praying into the hidden dimension that is all around us all of the time. Whoever owns that dimension owns the universe because to know of its existence is paramount in understanding Almighty God’s and Jesus Christ’s ‘word’. Do you pray into the air Anchorman, or do you use righteousness and meekness and prayerful respect for our Deity to speak with the Holy resident of that hidden dimension??

It is a small step from this to realise that if there are two dimensions to the universe, how they got there, and how they influence each other, and how all energy is a free energy that is born from the existence of those two dimensions…especially if we put a superabundant energy, God’s Mighty Power, into the mix, an invisible, raw material that has always been, and always will be.

Out for most of the day.

[trippymonkey]

And all of this is exclusive ONLY to Christianity?

[NicholasMarks]

And all of this is exclusive ONLY to Christianity?

Well yes trippy...because Jesus taught us about its mechanics...how we can attach ourselves to this indestructible energy...and how to use his righteous teaching to repair ourselves, resurrect ourselves and how ultimately, we will be saved from  all threats, by it, eventually leading us to the same genetic perfection Jesus had, where death is no longer a threat...but first we've got to get through the great tribulations, and God's Judgement...only accessible by sincere repentance.

[trippymonkey]

OK but may I ask what you know of other religions & their teachings on these very subjects??

Nick

[Anchorman]

Anchorman…(pseudoscientific drivel, hmmmm)

If a science is Biblically driven, which mine is, then Almighty God and Jesus Christ’s righteous teaching is stamped all over it…an omnipotent God must have an omnipotent science to support him. The key principle of that science is that it must carry and support the accurate word of Jesus Christ…which, of course, I claim this science does.

Here is its first principle, gleaned from the Holy Bible…That the universe is composed of two key dimensions…ours and God’s. To reach into that primary dimension of God’s we must follow specific laws as taught to us by Jesus. Jesus wasn’t talking into the air, he was praying into the hidden dimension that is all around us all of the time. Whoever owns that dimension owns the universe because to know of its existence is paramount in understanding Almighty God’s and Jesus Christ’s ‘word’. Do you pray into the air Anchorman, or do you use righteousness and meekness and prayerful respect for our Deity to speak with the Holy resident of that hidden dimension??

It is a small step from this to realise that if there are two dimensions to the universe, how they got there, and how they influence each other, and how all energy is a free energy that is born from the existence of those two dimensions…especially if we put a superabundant energy, God’s Mighty Power, into the mix, an invisible, raw material that has always been, and always will be.

Out for most of the day.

   
Yes, NM, drivel.
Science is based on evidence.
You have been told that  The Bible is NOT evidence for the Bible.
If you're trying to use science in Scripture - as many learned people do - you need to back up your assertion with evidence which can be verified by reputable science.
You have not done this.
I have asked you - repeatedly - to back up your claim of oppression in Egypt, of a massive slave city, with evidence. You have not offered one single shred of evidence.
Your posts might be peppered with pseudo-scintific language....they offer no science, no evidence, to back them up.
Therefiore as apologetics, go, they don't even reach the starting line.
Again: haver you submitted yourself, as per Scripture, for instruction?

[Anchorman]

And all of this is exclusive ONLY to Christianity?

Oy! Watch your usage of the word "Christianity"!

[torridon]

If a science is Biblically driven, which mine is, then ...

  .. then yours is not science at all. Science is driven by curiosity, by observation and analysis, by hypothesising and testing.  What it is not driven by is authority.  It is by distrusting authority, and by accepting that all our current knowledge may be wrong that we make progress in understanding. By sprinkling your ideas with some science terminology you will not turn it into science; it remains visibly fatuous lurid bunkum pretending to be something honest and worthy, which it isn't.

[Robbie]

NM: 'Jesus wasn’t talking into the air, he was praying into the hidden dimension that is all around us all of the time. Whoever owns that dimension owns the universe because to know of its existence is paramount in understanding Almighty God’s and Jesus Christ’s ‘word’. Do you pray into the air Anchorman, or do you use righteousness and meekness and prayerful respect for our Deity to speak with the Holy resident of that hidden dimension??'

Can't help feeling you've gone a bit far here Nick, somewhat insulting towards a fellow Christian.

And all of this is exclusive ONLY to Christianity?

No.

[Anchorman]

Well yes trippy...because Jesus taught us about its mechanics...how we can attach ourselves to this indestructible energy...and how to use his righteous teaching to repair ourselves, resurrect ourselves and how ultimately, we will be saved from  all threats, by it, eventually leading us to the same genetic perfection Jesus had, where death is no longer a threat...but first we've got to get through the great tribulations, and God's Judgement...only accessible by sincere repentance.

Not in my Bible, He didn't.

I've yet to find a translation where Jesus spouts pseudoscientific gobbledegook.

[ippy]

NM: 'Jesus wasn’t talking into the air, he was praying into the hidden dimension that is all around us all of the time. Whoever owns that dimension owns the universe because to know of its existence is paramount in understanding Almighty God’s and Jesus Christ’s ‘word’. Do you pray into the air Anchorman, or do you use righteousness and meekness and prayerful respect for our Deity to speak with the Holy resident of that hidden dimension??'

Can't help feeling you've gone a bit far here Nick, somewhat insulting towards a fellow Christian.

No.

Couldn't help noticing this part of your post Rob, where you have conveyed the following as though you're stating facts:

'Jesus wasn't talking into the air, he was praying into the hidden dimension that is all around us all of the time. Whoever owns that dimension owns the universe because to know of its existence is paramount in understanding Almighty God’s and Jesus Christ’s ‘word’.

Come on Rob, you can't know this any more than Nick knows the stuff he keeps on coming out with, I dare say for some reason you believe it? But there's a gulf between believing and knowing something as an evidenced based fact.

But then, yes, there was a lot of research going on into quantum psychics, (unknown dimensions and all of that), during the bronze age when it was likely someone called Jesus could have been around.

Regards ippy

[Dicky Underpants]

Couldn't help noticing this part of your post Rob, where you have conveyed the following as though you're stating facts:

'Jesus wasn't talking into the air, he was praying into the hidden dimension that is all around us all of the time. Whoever owns that dimension owns the universe because to know of its existence is paramount in understanding Almighty God’s and Jesus Christ’s ‘word’.

Come on Rob, you can't know this any more than Nick knows the stuff he keeps on coming out with, I dare say for some reason you believe it? But there's a gulf between believing and knowing something as an evidenced based fact.

But then, yes, there was a lot of research going on into quantum psychics, (unknown dimensions and all of that), during the bronze age when it was likely someone called Jesus could have been around.

Regards ippy

No, Robbie was quoting Nick (middle of his post 1414). Robbie's views are altogether more sane.