The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ

[ippy]

Did you get yout theology out of a lucky bag?

Just a thought your post made me think about Nick's terms of phrase, I was wondering if Nick goes to see his doctor how does he describe whatever he may have in the way of a complaint or just asking for a newspaper at the newsagent's shop, better still what do you think he has to say when he gets out of bed in the morning and stubbs his toe before he's put his shoes on.

I have to stow it if I stubb my toe in similar circumstances to prevent my wife having the satisfaction of laughing her head off at me, it'so undignified.

Regards ippy.

[Maeght]

Robbie/Maeght/Seb/torri/Anchorman/Be Rational...

When we finally realise that it is the electric laws of the universe that are the first laws behind all science we realise what Jesus Christ was actually teaching us. He was telling us that Almighty God is the owner of all those first laws and that God is very active in them because every single action in the universe is a response to those electric laws and God, being, himself, a spirit, is a living limb of all that energy and speaks on its behalf. We are too, but we have broken away from its usefulness by our sinful nature...that is using our inner spiritual nature in ways that alters our genetic patterning...which means that by changing our attitude towards Jesus Christ and righteousness we harness that energy in a wonderful way even reattach ourselves to the vine.

It's no good fighting it..that just means we will fall foul of all those wonderful promises made by Jesus, and at risk of falling into the trap Jesus warned us about.

Only in your over active imagination NM.

Now, what was it that you think NASA were perplexed about?

[torridon]

Robbie/Maeght/Seb/torri/Anchorman/Be Rational...

When we finally realise that it is the electric laws of the universe that are the first laws behind all science ....

Electric laws, Ohms' Law for instance, is hardly the first law behind all science.  Didn't even bother to read the rest of your post. If you can't be bothered to get even such elementary things right there's little prospect of you having insights worth anything in more complex and profound matters.  Pay attention to detail, pay attention to accuracy.

[torridon]

Well, I would be perplexed if I had been giving out inaccurate information as true then find out that the evidence says something else...which centres upon a universe made from Almighty God's  'dynamic energy.'

What inaccurate information had NASA been giving out ?

[NicholasMarks]

What inaccurate information had NASA been giving out ?

Well...for one...that they can do exactly what they want with no regard for Almighty God...but here, more specifically, they said planets formed out of space debris that sauntered around space...whereas I have taught you that a newly forming star is a newly forming atom-producing furnace that spews out heavy atoms at the time of its birth, and, apparently, continues to do so, and in the case of our star...continues to do so, in a fashion, every 11 years...but you all seem pretty good at failing to join the dots.

The big-bang is sponsored by NASA but this isn't the whole story and all the energy in the universe that NASA scientists say erupted from it was already here...It has always been and always will be. If they get all their basic facts wrong how will we ever be able to live a peaceful and harmonious life such as Jesus has promised those who adapt themselves to Almighty God's universal laws.

[Robbie]

Fair enough, you have answered according to your lights but most people will want more than what you teach, Nicholas. Theories must be tried and tested with more than one (or two) people testifying. If you could come up with more than you've said, you might be taken more seriously even if people still didn't agree with you. You must offer up more!

[NicholasMarks]

Fair enough, you have answered according to your lights but most people will want more than what you teach, Nicholas. Theories must be tried and tested with more than one (or two) people testifying. If you could come up with more than you've said, you might be taken more seriously even if people still didn't agree with you. You must offer up more!

You ignore the fact Robbie, that I get all my inspiration from the Holy Bible, which for the last 2000 years has held a powerful following...just by telling the true and unabridged version of Jesus Christ's life, death, and resurrection. It is by picking out the clues given in that wonderful and reliable book that we know that at the root of all knowledge, all science, and the whole of Jesus Christ's teaching, is a superabundant, dynamic energy, which we are trained from our infancy to ignore yet holds the key to repair, resurrection, and everlasting life...but, for that, we have got to adjust to the science of righteousness...as Jesus, alone, taught us.

 

[Sebastian Toe]

Well...for one...that they can do exactly what they want with no regard for Almighty God...but here, more specifically, they said planets formed out of space debris that sauntered around space...

Where does this space debris come from?

[Anchorman]

Stick to the Gospel, NM. Don't adulterate it with pseudoscientific waffle, please.

[Sebastian Toe]

whereas I have taught you that a newly forming star is a newly forming atom-producing furnace that spews out heavy atoms at the time of its birth, and, apparently, continues to do so, and in the case of our star...continues to do so, in a fashion, every 11 years...but you all seem pretty good at failing to join the dots.

The sun spews out heavy atoms every 11 years?
Which heavy atoms?
In what quantities?
How do you detect them?

[NicholasMarks]

Where does this space debris come from?

You tell me Seb. They talk about dust-clouds...but what are dust-clouds if not a load of atoms...so, where do those atoms come from?? They come from an atom producing furnace...a star...and a newly forming star is the ideal candidate because of the pressures, the energy, and the ability to scratch the static dimension of the universe which lies beneath all that high-speed activity that every star must endure because it is a part of the high-speed, expanding dimension of the same universe....but, of course, you spoke in jest.

[NicholasMarks]

The sun spews out heavy atoms every 11 years?
Which heavy atoms?
In what quantities?
How do you detect them?

Sometimes you are expected to use your own initiative Seb...but I will help. Every 11 years our sun goes into a solar-max where it is very active spewing out plasma and creating many sun-spots upon its surface. My understanding is that this is remnant of our early sun when it spewed out planet Earth, in whatever crude form it may have been in, from out of its belly...and this opens the door for many scientific facts not yet known by scientists but Biblically, very valid indeed.

[NicholasMarks]

Stick to the Gospel, NM. Don't adulterate it with pseudoscientific waffle, please.

I have put a lot of hard work into proving that everything Jesus said and did is 100% correct and worth organising our own individual lives around...so, in the words of Jesus...I will continue to the very end and claim my crown.

[Sebastian Toe]

Well...for one...that they can do exactly what they want with no regard for Almighty God...but here, more specifically, they said planets formed out of space debris that sauntered around space..

Scientists think planets, including the ones in our solar system, likely start off as grains of dust smaller than the width of a human hair. They emerge from the giant, donut-shaped disk of gas and dust that circles young stars. 

https://nasaviz.gsfc.nasa.gov/12278

[NicholasMarks]

Scientists think planets, including the ones in our solar system, likely start off as grains of dust smaller than the width of a human hair. They emerge from the giant, donut-shaped disk of gas and dust that circles young stars.

https://nasaviz.gsfc.nasa.gov/12278

That's ok Seb...you think Jesus Christ never existed but you are both wrong. In actual fact it's really quite clever because if something spewed out of the sun as I say the main body of atoms that became planet Earth did...then why didn't they just keep going??

Well now we have to challenge what is said about orbital motion...and it is very different to how it is perceived. There are 3 separate forces involved in orbital motion all forces playing different parts in the exercise of a planet orbiting the star of its birth...but, hey, we are running ahead of ourselves.

[Gordon]

I have put a lot of hard work into proving that everything Jesus said and did is 100% correct....

So how did you assess the risks of mistakes, exaggeration or lies in accounts of Jesus? Without a method of doing this that could be replicated by others I don't believe your 100% correct claim.

...and worth organising our own individual lives around...so, in the words of Jesus...I will continue to the very end and claim my crown.

I suspect you are being overconfident, Nick, and more than a wee bit grandiose.

[Gordon]

That's ok Seb...you think Jesus Christ never existed but you are both wrong. In actual fact it's really quite clever because if something spewed out of the sun as I say the main body of atoms that became planet Earth did...then why didn't they just keep going??

I suspect your average scientist, or secondary school pupil would know something of this: I just asked my 15 year-old grandson this question and he thinks it might have something to do with gravity. No doubt a professional cosmologist would provide a more detailed answer.

Well now we have to challenge what is said about orbital motion...and it is very different to how it is perceived.

How is it perceived (presumably by the relevant scientists) and how do you know it is different? Sounds like you think the scientists are missing something and that you are better informed - that seems unlikely to me.

There are 3 separate forces involved in orbital motion all forces playing different parts in the exercise of a planet orbiting the star of its birth...but, hey, we are running ahead of ourselves.

Do the experts agree with you precis of celestial mechanics?

[Anchorman]

Sometimes you are expected to use your own initiative Seb...but I will help. Every 11 years our sun goes into a solar-max where it is very active spewing out plasma and creating many sun-spots upon its surface. My understanding is that this is remnant of our early sun when it spewed out planet Earth, in whatever crude form it may have been in, from out of its belly...and this opens the door for many scientific facts not yet known by scientists but Biblically, very valid indeed.

Your understanding of solar activity is on a par with your understanding of ancient history.....both seem beyond your capacity to produce evidence in defence of your assertion.

[Robbie]

You ignore the fact Robbie, that I get all my inspiration from the Holy Bible, which for the last 2000 years has held a powerful following...just by telling the true and unabridged version of Jesus Christ's life, death, and resurrection. It is by picking out the clues given in that wonderful and reliable book that we know that at the root of all knowledge, all science, and the whole of Jesus Christ's teaching, is a superabundant, dynamic energy, which we are trained from our infancy to ignore yet holds the key to repair, resurrection, and everlasting life...but, for that, we have got to adjust to the science of righteousness...as Jesus, alone, taught us.

Ive also read the Bible quite thoroughly Nick. It might be helpful if you could help me pick up on things I've missed.

[NicholasMarks]

Gordon...

Gravity certainly plays a part Gordon...but what is gravity?? A force that tugs on mass millions of miles away regardless and tugs that secondary mass back on course even though it was previously going in the opposite direction away from the main force of gravity, often at very high speeds. I used pendulum-motion to find out what really happens, so you can too. Don't be perplexed if you don't work it out...scientists far better at it than you and I have missed it...but it holds up under my scrutiny...according to the electric nature of the universe.

 

[Anchorman]

I have put a lot of hard work into proving that everything Jesus said and did is 100% correct and worth organising our own individual lives around...so, in the words of Jesus...I will continue to the very end and claim my crown.

Unless you can produce valid, peer reviewef evidence which will stand up to scrutiny, you can spend all the time you want asserting things.
Assertions do not constitute proof.

[NicholasMarks]

Ive also read the Bible quite thoroughly Nick. It might be helpful if you could help me pick up on things I've missed.

Start by reading about God's Spiritual Waters that he wants to share with you Robbie and share with each and everyone of us. There is only one way to receive it. It is by bringing our attitudes into line with Jesus' righteous attitude....then we can refresh ourselves from the same resource that also made the stars and the atoms...every single one of them. Jesus Christ is the only one who speaks the truth nowadays, we are either contributing towards or are being manipulated by a load of lies and deceit and this confuses and confounds our genetic health.

[Gordon]

Gordon...

Gravity certainly plays a part Gordon...but what is gravity?? A force that tugs on mass millions of miles away regardless and tugs that secondary mass back on course even though it was previously going in the opposite direction away from the main force of gravity, often at very high speeds. I used pendulum-motion to find out what really happens, so you can too. Don't be perplexed if you don't work it out...scientists far better at it than you and I have missed it...but it holds up under my scrutiny...according to the electric nature of the universe.

So: you say your pendulum experiment reveals something that professional scientists have missed and that your 'scrutiny' has confirmed your findings,

I suspect that the professional scientists working in this field understand celestial mechanics quite well, and certainly better than me, as you say, but also better than you too! Have you discussed your conclusions and your 'scrutiny' methods with them? Presumably they would have been shocked to realise they had been working in the dark.

I suspect you're over-reaching again, Nick.

[Anchorman]

I have put a lot of hard work into proving that everything Jesus said and did is 100% correct and worth organising our own individual lives around...so, in the words of Jesus...I will continue to the very end and claim my crown.

"Where did Jesus say
"I will continue to the very end and claim my crown", please?

[Maeght]

Unless you can produce valid, peer reviewef evidence which will stand up to scrutiny, you can spend all the time you want asserting things.
Assertions do not constitute proof.

Spot on.