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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1775 on: July 08, 2018, 02:40:57 AM »
Gordon...

Gravity certainly plays a part Gordon...but what is gravity?? A force that tugs on mass millions of miles away regardless and tugs that secondary mass back on course even though it was previously going in the opposite direction away from the main force of gravity, often at very high speeds. I used pendulum-motion to find out what really happens, so you can too. Don't be perplexed if you don't work it out...scientists far better at it than you and I have missed it...but it holds up under my scrutiny...according to the electric nature of the universe.

 
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1776 on: July 08, 2018, 08:25:12 AM »
Well...for one...that they can do exactly what they want with no regard for Almighty God...but here, more specifically, they said planets formed out of space debris that sauntered around space...whereas I have taught you that a newly forming star is a newly forming atom-producing furnace that spews out heavy atoms at the time of its birth, and, apparently, continues to do so, and in the case of our star...continues to do so, in a fashion, every 11 years...but you all seem pretty good at failing to join the dots.

The big-bang is sponsored by NASA but this isn't the whole story and all the energy in the universe that NASA scientists say erupted from it was already here...It has always been and always will be. If they get all their basic facts wrong how will we ever be able to live a peaceful and harmonious life such as Jesus has promised those who adapt themselves to Almighty God's universal laws.

More musings from the NicholasMarks book of idiotic babble.

Just to clear up a few howlers, stars do not spew out heavy atoms at the time of their birth, neither during any part of main phase.  In fact most stars never spew out heavy atoms. What they do emit is radiation and plasma.  It is supernovae which spew out heavy atoms,  this is the death, not the birth, of stars of sufficient mass to fuse heavy elements.

Planets form by a process of accretion within dust clouds in orbit around a star, not from the radiation emitted by the star.

it is you that have gotten your basic facts wrong, not NASA.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1777 on: July 08, 2018, 08:32:25 AM »
Sometimes you are expected to use your own initiative Seb...but I will help. Every 11 years our sun goes into a solar-max where it is very active spewing out plasma and creating many sun-spots upon its surface. My understanding is that this is remnant of our early sun when it spewed out planet Earth, in whatever crude form it may have been in, from out of its belly...and this opens the door for many scientific facts not yet known by scientists but Biblically, very valid indeed.

Stars do not spew out planets, there is no mechanism for this to happen, and no observational evidence in favour of it.  Planets form from a slow process of accretion.  The 11 year cycle is nothing unusual, all stars are variable to some or other degree, having cycles.  This is entirely normal.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1778 on: July 08, 2018, 08:38:32 AM »
Gordon...

Gravity certainly plays a part Gordon...but what is gravity?? A force that tugs on mass millions of miles away regardless and tugs that secondary mass back on course even though it was previously going in the opposite direction away from the main force of gravity, often at very high speeds. I used pendulum-motion to find out what really happens, so you can too. Don't be perplexed if you don't work it out...scientists far better at it than you and I have missed it...but it holds up under my scrutiny...according to the electric nature of the universe.

Gravity is not really a force, although it is often portrayed that way.  Gravity is actually the curvature of spacetime, although I'm guessing understanding that is going to be way over your head.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1779 on: July 08, 2018, 09:13:48 AM »


"Where did Jesus say
"I will continue to the very end and claim my crown", please?

I googled it for you Anchorman...and came up with this...It wasn't specifically what I was looking for but it will suffice.   https://www.gotquestions.org/heavenly-crowns.html

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1780 on: July 08, 2018, 09:25:51 AM »

torri...

You are quoting the nearest that modern science has reached, torri, but the underlying principle behind gravity is also behind the nuclear higgs-field, and also behind the forces that exist within the living-cell. It is an imploding force derived from clashes between the two universal states that exist and which cannot be denied...the static dimension of the universe and the high-speed dimension that sits on top of the original static state. Then we can have space warping, gravitational attraction, replicating living-cells and answers to the many mysteries which still surround us. It also gives way to a new electrical understanding of the universe which is well worth exploring because the Holy Being who first identified this twin dimensional universe to us tells us of an impending danger which only those prepared for it in a righteous way will survive.

Almighty God calls it his Judgement.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1781 on: July 08, 2018, 09:38:49 AM »
I googled it for you Anchorman...and came up with this...It wasn't specifically what I was looking for but it will suffice.   https://www.gotquestions.org/heavenly-crowns.html




So you can't even quote Christ in His word with any accuracy?
How do you expect anyone to take you seriously after that?
You claim to have read the Bible.
This is obviously incorrect.
That's an error no Christian worth the name would make in defence of the Lord Jesus.
If you can't even get THAT right, what does it say about the rest of your waffle.
Diverting it might be.
Truthful and accurate it is not.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1782 on: July 08, 2018, 09:43:15 AM »
torri...

 It is an imploding force derived from clashes between the two universal states that exist and which cannot be denied...
I deny it.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1783 on: July 08, 2018, 10:28:36 AM »
torri...

You are quoting the nearest that modern science has reached, torri, but the underlying principle behind gravity is also behind the nuclear higgs-field, and also behind the forces that exist within the living-cell. It is an imploding force derived from clashes between the two universal states that exist and which cannot be denied....

Yes it can be denied because it is wrong.  Gravity derives from the structure of spacetime.  It is not an imploding force. Spacetime derives from covariant quantum fields.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1784 on: July 08, 2018, 11:34:24 AM »
torri...

You are quoting the nearest that modern science has reached, torri, but the underlying principle behind gravity is also behind the nuclear higgs-field, and also behind the forces that exist within the living-cell. It is an imploding force derived from clashes between the two universal states that exist and which cannot be denied...the static dimension of the universe and the high-speed dimension that sits on top of the original static state. Then we can have space warping, gravitational attraction, replicating living-cells and answers to the many mysteries which still surround us. It also gives way to a new electrical understanding of the universe which is well worth exploring because the Holy Being who first identified this twin dimensional universe to us tells us of an impending danger which only those prepared for it in a righteous way will survive.

Almighty God calls it his Judgement.

Nick you say: 'Then we can have space warping, gravitational attraction'.

You've even got this bit wrong according to the present theories about how gravity works, apparently gravity is pushing us down on to this little planet of ours it's not attraction.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1785 on: July 08, 2018, 06:33:05 PM »

Anchorman...

I'm the one who seemed to know that Jesus had promised his faithful a crown of very special significance Anchorman and I gave you five crowns promised by Almighty God to those who overcome, You see...our Deity knows that these end-times will be very difficult indeed  because not only the many have forgotten their faith...Satan is feeling very confident about his own self-interests...but Almighty God isn't slow in pronouncing his Judgement...he just wants to save as many as possible and allowing us to see the full force of Satan's unmerciless and unscrupulous attitude will be the clincher for many, just as it was for the Jews who followed Moses...but I rather fancy it will all coincide with the celestial calamity forewarned of by Jesus Christ , himself. 


torri/ippy...

So...what is space-time, torri...Could it be based on Einstein's claim that at the speed of light, time stands still, or God's space-time wherein a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years a day?? You choose, but they both appear to be saying the same thing to me but with few thousand years in between them...Remember Almighty God is the light.


Seb...

But you deny Jesus Christ as well Seb...whilst I'm proving to you that there is a science that supports everything Jesus said and did. It is the science of righteousness and one of its most precious attributes is that it values human salvation first.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1786 on: July 08, 2018, 06:46:50 PM »
Anchorman...

I'm the one who seemed to know that Jesus had promised his faithful a crown of very special significance Anchorman and I gave you five crowns promised by Almighty God to those who overcome, You see...our Deity knows that these end-times will be very difficult indeed  because not only the many have forgotten their faith...Satan is feeling very confident about his own self-interests...but Almighty God isn't slow in pronouncing his Judgement...he just wants to save as many as possible and allowing us to see the full force of Satan's unmerciless and unscrupulous attitude will be the clincher for many, just as it was for the Jews who followed Moses...but I rather fancy it will all coincide with the celestial calamity forewarned of by Jesus Christ , himself. 


torri/ippy...

So...what is space-time, torri...Could it be based on Einstein's claim that at the speed of light, time stands still, or God's space-time wherein a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years a day?? You choose, but they both appear to be saying the same thing to me but with few thousand years in between them...Remember Almighty God is the light.


Seb...

But you deny Jesus Christ as well Seb...whilst I'm proving to you that there is a science that supports everything Jesus said and did. It is the science of righteousness and one of its most precious attributes is that it values human salvation first.



  No, NM:
You quoted words which you claimed the Lord Jesus spoke  - words which you must have read.
Those words spoken by Christ  do not exist in Scripture.
You either made a mistake, or told a deliberate untruth.
Which?
It seems your much vaunted accuracy does not extend to reading the Gospel.
Because until you deal with that, the rest of your posts mean nothing, and  detract from the Glory of God - which, having read the Scripture - accurately - I'm sure you realise is something no believer should ever do.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1787 on: July 09, 2018, 09:34:25 AM »
Anchorman...

I'm the one who seemed to know that Jesus had promised his faithful a crown of very special significance Anchorman and I gave you five crowns promised by Almighty God to those who overcome, You see...our Deity knows that these end-times will be very difficult indeed  because not only the many have forgotten their faith...Satan is feeling very confident about his own self-interests...but Almighty God isn't slow in pronouncing his Judgement...he just wants to save as many as possible and allowing us to see the full force of Satan's unmerciless and unscrupulous attitude will be the clincher for many, just as it was for the Jews who followed Moses...but I rather fancy it will all coincide with the celestial calamity forewarned of by Jesus Christ , himself. 


torri/ippy...

So...what is space-time, torri...Could it be based on Einstein's claim that at the speed of light, time stands still, or God's space-time wherein a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years a day?? You choose, but they both appear to be saying the same thing to me but with few thousand years in between them...Remember Almighty God is the light.


Seb...

But you deny Jesus Christ as well Seb...whilst I'm proving to you that there is a science that supports everything Jesus said and did. It is the science of righteousness and one of its most precious attributes is that it values human salvation first.

You just don't get how daft your posts are NM. I feel sorry for you as you are making yourself a laughing stock!
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1788 on: July 09, 2018, 09:46:02 AM »

ippy/torri...

The Earth's gravity is somewhat different to orbital motion...The mass of the Earth has warped space. A heavier mass can warp space more and have more gravity but the principle is the same. That Earthly mass is reaching into another dimension. Though we are quite happy to think we are locked within the motions of the sun the sun is locked into the motions of the Milky Way and that is travelling at the speed of the expanding universe. There are friction points within a star that touches the static dimension beneath that solar mass as its energy swirls and collides within it and everytime such a friction point  is exposed an atom is born harnessing that friction point as the higgs field. You see all force is born that way and Jesus Christ, under the authority of his father, told us about it using sinful man as his model.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1789 on: July 09, 2018, 10:12:15 AM »
No, NM, He did not.
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1790 on: July 09, 2018, 10:25:40 AM »
No, NM, He did not.

You will be telling me next Anchorman that Almighty God didn't create the heaven and the Earth or that his word didn't feature heavily within all that universal science. If there is evidence of God's science it is contained within the Holy Bible and that is precisely where I found this science. Of course, it is a very large science, profound even, but that is exactly what God says about his knowledge...best to follow Jesus Christ accurately, and leave the science as an unspoken fact.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1791 on: July 09, 2018, 10:44:11 AM »
You will be telling me next Anchorman that Almighty God didn't create the heaven and the Earth or that his word didn't feature heavily within all that universal science. If there is evidence of God's science it is contained within the Holy Bible and that is precisely where I found this science. Of course, it is a very large science, profound even, but that is exactly what God says about his knowledge...best to follow Jesus Christ accurately, and leave the science as an unspoken fact.

You have no evidence to support a single word of your post. The Bible, as has been stated many times, is not evidence.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1792 on: July 09, 2018, 10:50:31 AM »


Seb...

.whilst I'm proving to you that there is a science that supports everything Jesus said and did.

Nick..
You, are 'proving' nothing.
You are using an over fertile imagination, by adding in sciency sounding words that you have picked up, to your completely unscientific stories. That's what they are Nick, your stories. Nothing more and nothing less than rambling stories. They dont hang together no matter how often you smatter them with 'prove' 'righteous' 'Higgs' 'electric' and 'dynamic'.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1793 on: July 09, 2018, 10:53:31 AM »

  No, NM:
You quoted words which you claimed the Lord Jesus spoke  - words which you must have read.
Those words spoken by Christ  do not exist in Scripture.
You either made a mistake, or told a deliberate untruth.
Which?
It seems your much vaunted accuracy does not extend to reading the Gospel.
Because until you deal with that, the rest of your posts mean nothing, and  detract from the Glory of God - which, having read the Scripture - accurately - I'm sure you realise is something no believer should ever do.



BUMPED.
For NM.
To answer - accurately.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1794 on: July 09, 2018, 11:14:19 AM »

Anchorman/Seb/Littleroses...

I know it must come as a bit of a shock when you have convinced yourselves that there is no God, or, as in Anchorman's case, a God that looks and feels as he does about God, but Almighty God is a scientific God who knows everything there is to know about the universe. He knows, because Jesus Christ taught us that God is all around us all of the time just waiting for us to reach into his righteous teaching so that we can begin a process of repair using his spiritual waters...which has the power of resurrection and everlasting life firmly stamped upon its scientific arrangement. Cut ourselves off from this fruit of God's vine then our genetics go haywire...we become easily manipulated by others and resurrection is denied us because that's how the science works...so it is time to pay heed...not to me, but to Jesus Christ...accurately.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1795 on: July 09, 2018, 11:22:52 AM »
ippy/torri...

The Earth's gravity is somewhat different to orbital motion...The mass of the Earth has warped space. A heavier mass can warp space more and have more gravity but the principle is the same. That Earthly mass is reaching into another dimension. Though we are quite happy to think we are locked within the motions of the sun the sun is locked into the motions of the Milky Way and that is travelling at the speed of the expanding universe. There are friction points within a star that touches the static dimension beneath that solar mass as its energy swirls and collides within it and everytime such a friction point  is exposed an atom is born harnessing that friction point as the higgs field. You see all force is born that way and Jesus Christ, under the authority of his father, told us about it using sinful man as his model.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1796 on: July 09, 2018, 11:33:48 AM »

  No, NM:
You quoted words which you claimed the Lord Jesus spoke  - words which you must have read.
Those words spoken by Christ  do not exist in Scripture.
You either made a mistake, or told a deliberate untruth.
Which?
It seems your much vaunted accuracy does not extend to reading the Gospel.
Because until you deal with that, the rest of your posts mean nothing, and  detract from the Glory of God - which, having read the Scripture - accurately - I'm sure you realise is something no believer should ever do.




Bumped.
Again.
For NM to answer.
Accurately, of course.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1797 on: July 09, 2018, 12:14:53 PM »
....we become easily manipulated by others ......
Well Nick, that is exactly what you have allowed to happen, to yourself.
Manipulated by conspiracy theorist nutters, science deniers, fact deniers, fantasists who have access to the interner/Youtube.
You swallow them hook, line, sinker, rod, reel and forearm.
A fact which you have demonstrated, accurately, on this forum, many times.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1798 on: July 09, 2018, 01:12:16 PM »
Anchorman/Seb/Littleroses...

I know it must come as a bit of a shock when you have convinced yourselves that there is no God, or, as in Anchorman's case, a God that looks and feels as he does about God, but Almighty God is a scientific God who knows everything there is to know about the universe. He knows, because Jesus Christ taught us that God is all around us all of the time just waiting for us to reach into his righteous teaching so that we can begin a process of repair using his spiritual waters...which has the power of resurrection and everlasting life firmly stamped upon its scientific arrangement. Cut ourselves off from this fruit of God's vine then our genetics go haywire...we become easily manipulated by others and resurrection is denied us because that's how the science works...so it is time to pay heed...not to me, but to Jesus Christ...accurately.

Nick, you think the bible proves the bible.

You've virtually zero understanding of how gravity works.

You've no evidence that proves that god exists.

You're unable to tell us how you have come to acquire the knowledge about the thoughts of this supposed god of yours.

Admittedly this Jew referred to as Jesus may well have existed but you've no idea any more than anyone else has about anything he may have said or not.

It's also very unlikely there was ever any such thing as a reserection, their's certainly no evidence that would support the idea.

You're not doing very well to date Nick.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1799 on: July 09, 2018, 02:39:38 PM »
Anchorman/Seb/Littleroses...

I know it must come as a bit of a shock when you have convinced yourselves that there is no God, or, as in Anchorman's case, a God that looks and feels as he does about God, but Almighty God is a scientific God who knows everything there is to know about the universe. He knows, because Jesus Christ taught us that God is all around us all of the time just waiting for us to reach into his righteous teaching so that we can begin a process of repair using his spiritual waters...which has the power of resurrection and everlasting life firmly stamped upon its scientific arrangement. Cut ourselves off from this fruit of God's vine then our genetics go haywire...we become easily manipulated by others and resurrection is denied us because that's how the science works...so it is time to pay heed...not to me, but to Jesus Christ...accurately.

What do you mean, 'as a bit of a shock'? We are used to your nonsense posts, if you said something with which we actually agreed and was logical, now that would be a shock. ;D
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