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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1850 on: July 12, 2018, 11:56:25 AM »
..especially those people easily influenced by charlatans posting utter unevidenced nonsense on Youtube.
Those poor people then live their lives as if what they have been duped by is actually true.
Not only that, they then embarrass rhemselves by trying to convince sane, normal people that their delusions are facts.

Sad really.


It is tragic some people are so very gullible. :o
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1851 on: July 12, 2018, 04:44:56 PM »

Now, following God in exactly the way Jesus did made Jesus the highest righteous person in the universe after God who I suspect was also spiritually resurrected from the same fate...in Heaven...when he was martyred by the same demonic thinking that had Jesus slaughtered

Nick

Just so that our spiritual instruction should be as accurate as possible, could you refer us to the passages in the Bible that refer to this extraordinary phenomenon which you think happened to God. I don't seem to be able to find any reference to it.

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No, I don't think this is evidence of Trinitarian leanings - Nick appears to be referring to another 'event' which is supposed to have occurred before the life and death of Jesus. In fact, this latest bombshell, rather than deriving from his approved (but not quite accurate) sect of the JWs, seems to have a whiff of Mormonism about it. Some Mormons believe in a whole chain of deities begetting deities throughout time. Maybe there's a bit of Zoroastrianism there too.
Of course, I think all this is a load of baloney, but I am a firm believer in being 'accurate' about things.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1852 on: July 12, 2018, 08:56:01 PM »
Nick

Just so that our spiritual instruction should be as accurate as possible, could you refer us to the passages in the Bible that refer to this extraordinary phenomenon which you think happened to God. I don't seem to be able to find any reference to it.

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No, I don't think this is evidence of Trinitarian leanings - Nick appears to be referring to another 'event' which is supposed to have occurred before the life and death of Jesus. In fact, this latest bombshell, rather than deriving from his approved (but not quite accurate) sect of the JWs, seems to have a whiff of Mormonism about it. Some Mormons believe in a whole chain of deities begetting deities throughout time. Maybe there's a bit of Zoroastrianism there too.
Of course, I think all this is a load of baloney, but I am a firm believer in being 'accurate' about things.


Oh Dicky...you see why I always say, 'follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ'. It's not open to any other reasoning than what Jesus said and did...it is God's righteous science...Now, what I have done is shown you why that righteous science is so important to you, and me, because we can't have resurrection without it...The only alternative is being locked in the ether until God decides otherwise, and which we are Biblically guaranteed will happen at Judgement time. Jesus summed this up, when, during his own resurrection he said...I have been down into the depths of Satan's lair and snatched the keys of life and death out of his hands.

How is all this possible, you may ask?? Well that is in the Holy Bible as well...but we need to be sharper than Einstein to understand it...It is because the entire universe is made from an indestructible, dynamic energy, and I have been given a glimpse of that science...and I suspect that even you, Dicky, would prefer to know about this better life that can be achieved if we follow the accurate laws that control it all...You've guessed it...the righteous laws of Jesus Christ...But we must respond soon...before the wrath of God spills over and the fiery lake of sulphur closes all opportunity of salvation, once and for all.

Floating around the universe locked in a sulphurous furnace for all eternity isn't my idea of fun...but, according to Jesus, it is the natural state of our future unless we make a righteous stand. We need to resist this forthcoming great tribulation by being righteous.




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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1853 on: July 12, 2018, 09:02:14 PM »
NM:- Floating around the universe locked in a sulphurous furnace for all eternity isn't my idea of fun...but, according to Jesus, it is the natural state of our future unless we make a righteous stand. We need to resist this forthcoming great tribulation by being righteous.

Your words paint a horrific picture & I sincerely hope you never say anything like to or in front of impressionable children.

Don't you realise it is entirely possible to be 'righteous' (& not self righteous) without taking all your theories on board?

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1854 on: July 12, 2018, 10:02:02 PM »
NM:- Floating around the universe locked in a sulphurous furnace for all eternity isn't my idea of fun...but, according to Jesus, it is the natural state of our future unless we make a righteous stand. We need to resist this forthcoming great tribulation by being righteous.

Your words paint a horrific picture & I sincerely hope you never say anything like to or in front of impressionable children.

Don't you realise it is entirely possible to be 'righteous' (& not self righteous) without taking all your theories on board?


Of course I know Robbie that following Jesus is only the route to our salvation...I've told you all enough times. I have added a scientific dimension because many just aren't listening and the fiery lake of sulphur will be their fate. Almighty God and Jesus are the ones declaring our fate if we don't do a u-turn. It is stated boldly and clearly in Revelation 21:8. As regards children...by the virtue of their innocence they meet the righteous standard required, or, at least, most do. You may have noticed that it is easier to lead a child in righteous thinking than it is an adult but a global catastrophe is just that and we will all be involved in that...regardless. It is much better for adults to be prepared in righteousness so they will be able to guide young and old alike in the only path that offers salvation.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1855 on: July 12, 2018, 10:05:04 PM »

Of course I know Robbie that following Jesus is only the route to our salvation...I've told you all enough times. I have added a scientific dimension because many just aren't listening and the fiery lake of sulphur will be their fate.

Why do you think adding your pseudo scientific babble helps?

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1856 on: July 12, 2018, 10:12:22 PM »

Of course I know Robbie that following Jesus is only the route to our salvation...I've told you all enough times. I have added a scientific dimension because many just aren't listening and the fiery lake of sulphur will be their fate. Almighty God and Jesus are the ones declaring our fate if we don't do a u-turn. It is stated boldly and clearly in Revelation 21:8. As regards children...by the virtue of their innocence they meet the righteous standard required, or, at least, most do. You may have noticed that it is easier to lead a child in righteous thinking than it is an adult but a global catastrophe is just that and we will all be involved in that...regardless. It is much better for adults to be prepared in righteousness so they will be able to guide young and old alike in the only path that offers salvation.

Porcine ablutions.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1857 on: July 12, 2018, 10:21:55 PM »
Why do you think adding your pseudo scientific babble helps?

It's simple really Maeght...You need to realise that the Creator of all science, which is the message contained in the opening words of Genesis, is telling us, through Jesus Christ, that the same dynamic energy he made the universe with is also a scientific part of you and me. Now Jesus Christ's word is sufficient to save us because he teaches us that our inner spiritual strength is the same stuff restructured by our attitudes and failure to do so will be to our detriment because nothing else will save you. That's what is meant by its title...'indestructible' energy.

Think just for a moment how I'll feel when at some future date I will have to confess that I once knew a person who called themselves Maeght who could have been saved but just refused to listen to Jesus Christ even though the science we all enjoy today was so obviously demonstrating the accuracy in Jesus' true word.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1858 on: July 12, 2018, 10:25:22 PM »
Porcine ablutions.

Akin to casting your pearls before swine Gordon...but needs must.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1859 on: July 12, 2018, 10:26:09 PM »
It's simple really Maeght...You need to realise that the Creator of all science, which is the message contained in the opening words of Genesis, is telling us, through Jesus Christ, that the same dynamic energy he made the universe with is also a scientific part of you and me. Now Jesus Christ's word is sufficient to save us because he teaches us that our inner spiritual strength is the same stuff restructured by our attitudes and failure to do so will be to our detriment because nothing else will save you. That's what is meant by its title...'indestructible' energy.

Think just for a moment how I'll feel when at some future date I will have to confess that I once knew a person who called themselves Maeght who could have been saved but just refused to listen to Jesus Christ even though the science we all enjoy today was so obviously demonstrating the accuracy in Jesus' true word.

I ask again, why do you think your pseudo scientific babble helps?

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1860 on: July 12, 2018, 10:30:07 PM »
I ask again, why do you think your pseudo scientific babble helps?

I refer you to my response to you, listed above.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1861 on: July 12, 2018, 10:32:26 PM »
I refer you to my response to you, listed above.

Which doesn't answer my question.

You are trying to get people to read the bible, to accept Jesus and be righteous, why do you think your pseudo scientific babble helps achieve that in any way? Its quite the opposite you know.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1862 on: July 12, 2018, 10:35:59 PM »
Akin to casting your pearls before swine Gordon...but needs must.

Whose needs?

I suspect your needs, which in my experience is a characteristic of those who proselytise: that they have caught something nasty seems to cause them to think that the rest of us would really appreciate being similarly infected - and some of us don't, and are resistant to said infection.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1863 on: July 12, 2018, 10:53:37 PM »
Nicholas the most important thing Jesus ever told people to do is something that equally applies to people of other or no faith:  Love one another.

(Bill and Ted said "Be excellent to eachother".)

That means treating others as we would wish to be treated. Caring.

If we try to put that into practice we will probably achieve some degree of 'righteousness' but we don't do it for that reason, we do it because it is fair and right.

Everything else pales into comparison.

I find your preaching to be distorted but you have the right to say what you believe. It's one thing doing it on here but quite another if you speak like that to family, friends and colleagues.

It might help if you were more friendly and joined in other discussions. Being so single minded is in my view unhealthy.



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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1864 on: July 12, 2018, 11:46:56 PM »
Whose needs?

I suspect your needs, which in my experience is a characteristic of those who proselytise: that they have caught something nasty seems to cause them to think that the rest of us would really appreciate being similarly infected - and some of us don't, and are resistant to said infection.

No, Gordon...an infection is the result of a tiny piece of electrical matter that lodges inside your soft tissue and replicates with your cell replicating processes because you have let the electric structure of your general health slip and weaken your immune system...not to worry...Jesus Christ has the remedy...upbuild your emotional strength righteously...it's all in the Holy Bible.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1865 on: July 13, 2018, 12:18:52 AM »
Whose needs? I suspect your needs, which in my experience is a characteristic of those who proselytise: that they have caught something nasty seems to cause them to think that the rest of us would really appreciate being similarly infected - and some of us don't, and are resistant to said infection.
You, know,  Gordon, I have been a bit busy today - acting as a guide for fellow visually impaired people at Kelvingrove. As I passed Sir Roger - you'll know who Sir Roger is - I though this musings made a darn sight more sense than NM's.
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1866 on: July 13, 2018, 12:43:37 AM »
Elephants = cool

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1867 on: July 13, 2018, 06:41:42 AM »
It's simple really Maeght...You need to realise that the Creator of all science, which is the message contained in the opening words of Genesis, is telling us, through Jesus Christ, that the same dynamic energy he made the universe with is also a scientific part of you and me. Now Jesus Christ's word is sufficient to save us because he teaches us that our inner spiritual strength is the same stuff restructured by our attitudes and failure to do so will be to our detriment because nothing else will save you. That's what is meant by its title...'indestructible' energy.

Think just for a moment how I'll feel when at some future date I will have to confess that I once knew a person who called themselves Maeght who could have been saved but just refused to listen to Jesus Christ even though the science we all enjoy today was so obviously demonstrating the accuracy in Jesus' true word.

More idiotic babble.  Jesus didn't teach such nonsense, that is your ungodly specialisation and it is a shame that you have not yet understood there is value in engaging properly and honestly with others.  If you had any authentic regard for the teaching of Jesus you would value John 13:34-35 over the lurid fantasies of Revelation, which is not attributable to Jesus.  At the moment all you do is come across as a babbling idiot with no regard for others; I hope one day you will find a way to rid yourself of this peculiar affliction and become a more thoughtful, considerate person.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1868 on: July 13, 2018, 08:37:31 AM »
No, Gordon...an infection is the result of a tiny piece of electrical matter that lodges inside your soft tissue and replicates with your cell replicating processes because you have let the electric structure of your general health slip and weaken your immune system...not to worry...Jesus Christ has the remedy...upbuild your emotional strength righteously...it's all in the Holy Bible.


And just when you think NM couldn't come up with anything crazier he does! ::)
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1869 on: July 13, 2018, 08:43:21 AM »
Elephants = cool

Night night


S' amazing wot a google can do, innit? ;)   .....
Oh, and that, NM, is called 'looking for EVIDENCE.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1870 on: July 13, 2018, 09:10:32 AM »
You, know,  Gordon, I have been a bit busy today - acting as a guide for fellow visually impaired people at Kelvingrove. As I passed Sir Roger - you'll know who Sir Roger is - I though this musings made a darn sight more sense than NM's.

He was on the phone last time I visited Kelvingrove: making a trunk call.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1871 on: July 13, 2018, 09:15:25 AM »
I like to give praise where praise is due, NM's posts make me giggle they are so bonkers. ;D
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1872 on: July 13, 2018, 09:25:56 AM »
He was on the phone last time I visited Kelvingrove: making a trunk call.
Boom tish boom!
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1873 on: July 13, 2018, 09:27:57 AM »
I like to give praise where praise is due, NM's posts make me giggle they are so bonkers. ;D

My concern is that he is not doing it for comic effect, and is, in fact, serious!
I see gullible people, everywhere!

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1874 on: July 13, 2018, 09:29:33 AM »
My concern is that he is not doing it for comic effect, and is, in fact, serious!


But I don't think anyone on this forum is gullible enough to take him seriously, which would be very worrying.
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