The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ

[Anchorman]

Scientifically illiterate gibberish.

Just gibberish.

Not only scientific gibberish, but theological gibberish as well.
Double whammy.

[Robbie]

Nicholas you've had your say & you've had your day.My suggestion, it's time to move on to greener pastures but come back when your're more friendly.

[NicholasMarks]

Nicholas you've had your say & you've had your day.My suggestion, it's time to move on to greener pastures but come back when your're more friendly.

Friendship isn't what drives me Robbie...it's loving concern for my fellowmen. Through Biblical instruction I have recognised the traits that indicate we are living through the last days. There are many great tribulations taking place right now. The most pressing of these is the approach of a celestial body that is bringing a huge ammount of red oxide dust with it. It is already entering our atmosphere and I suspect will get far worse...but, with solid Christian guidelines  and prayer we should stay calm and endure it as best we can because this is just one of many tribulations which Jesus Christ wants us to be prepared for. As always...it is down to the individual...I just pray you will all have the righteous spiritual attitude required to endure because the alternative is far worse.

[Anchorman]

NM: Has it ever occurred to you to be like Christ? He did not use the "High Hevrew" jargon when He addressed those to whome He spoke. Of course He knew Hebrew -as every male Jew did. Instead He spke in Aramaic - the language common to all at that time in the area - the language of the common man, not the theologian. Ditch the jargon, the pseudoscientific technobabble and be a follower of Christ's example - just this once.

[Roses]

Friendship isn't what drives me Robbie...it's loving concern for my fellowmen. Through Biblical instruction I have recognised the traits that indicate we are living through the last days. There are many great tribulations taking place right now. The most pressing of these is the approach of a celestial body that is bringing a huge ammount of red oxide dust with it. It is already entering our atmosphere and I suspect will get far worse...but, with solid Christian guidelines  and prayer we should stay calm and endure it as best we can because this is just one of many tribulations which Jesus Christ wants us to be prepared for. As always...it is down to the individual...I just pray you will all have the righteous spiritual attitude required to endure because the alternative is far worse.

I reckon Jesus would not be impressed with the stupid things you are claiming about him. He probably wouldn't want you in his gang.

[torridon]

Friendship isn't what drives me Robbie...it's loving concern for my fellowmen. Through Biblical instruction I have recognised the traits that indicate we are living through the last days. There are many great tribulations taking place right now. The most pressing of these is the approach of a celestial body that is bringing a huge ammount of red oxide dust with it. It is already entering our atmosphere and I suspect will get far worse...but, with solid Christian guidelines  and prayer we should stay calm and endure it as best we can because this is just one of many tribulations which Jesus Christ wants us to be prepared for. As always...it is down to the individual...I just pray you will all have the righteous spiritual attitude required to endure because the alternative is far worse.

Like loving concern for others is somehow consistent with bullshitting them ?  Well I never.

[Sebastian Toe]

. The most pressing of these is the approach of a celestial body that is bringing a huge ammount of red oxide dust with it. It is already entering our atmosphere and I suspect will get far worse...

Go on then. Show your working?

[Anchorman]

Go on then. Show your working?

   
He probably means "Rusty"; the 'good' Dalek the Doctor will encounter in the future.
It's about as realistic as the rest of the unsubstantiated guff NM posts.
Ye, NM - I mean you.
And I also mean 'unsubstantiated' - because you are completely unable to produce a shred of real evidence to back your dreams up.

[NicholasMarks]

   
He probably means "Rusty"; the 'good' Dalek the Doctor will encounter in the future.
It's about as realistic as the rest of the unsubstantiated guff NM posts.
Ye, NM - I mean you.
And I also mean 'unsubstantiated' - because you are completely unable to produce a shred of real evidence to back your dreams up.

The Holy Bible is all the evidence I need Anchorman and the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ. Not my reasoning...that is just extracted from the Holy Bible...but Jesus Christ has given us a knowledge that passeth all understanding...which I claim is a science because everything tallies...everything unifies into one understanding...the dream of all astrophysicists but who stumble over fitting gravity into the mix...yet, thanks to Jesus Christ, we know exactly how they all come together, including gravity. Now...when you read your Holy Bible, forget all the add-ons that Constantine engineered into religion, forget about the unjustified claims that Jesus and Almighty God are the same being...because that way you have written out one part of our Deity and substituted him with the other...and concentrate upon accepting that righteousness isn't out to ensnare you...what is written is true...no need to read it in many different languages, just use the natural innocent alertness of reasoning, that debogging your mind of all junk, offers to every aspect of your health, including the power of reason, but, most importantly, prepare yourself with the right attitude to be saved...or, as Jesus put it...prepare your lamp for the groom.

   

[Roses]

   
He probably means "Rusty"; the 'good' Dalek the Doctor will encounter in the future.
It's about as realistic as the rest of the unsubstantiated guff NM posts.
Ye, NM - I mean you.
And I also mean 'unsubstantiated' - because you are completely unable to produce a shred of real evidence to back your dreams up.

The good Dalek it is more realistic than NM's claims.

[Roses]

The Holy Bible is all the evidence I need Anchorman and the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ. Not my reasoning...that is just extracted from the Holy Bible...but Jesus Christ has given us a knowledge that passeth all understanding...which I claim is a science because everything tallies...everything unifies into one understanding...the dream of all astrophysicists but who stumble over fitting gravity into the mix...yet, thanks to Jesus Christ, we know exactly how they all come together, including gravity. Now...when you read your Holy Bible, forget all the add-ons that Constantine engineered into religion, forget about the unjustified claims that Jesus and Almighty God are the same being...because that way you have written out one part of our Deity and substituted him with the other...and concentrate upon accepting that righteousness isn't out to ensnare you...what is written is true...no need to read it in many different languages, just use the natural innocent alertness of reasoning, that debogging your mind of all junk, offers to every aspect of your health, including the power of reason, but, most importantly, prepare yourself with the right attitude to be saved...or, as Jesus put it...prepare your lamp for the groom.

 

None of your of that nonsense is found in the Bible, it is entirely created by your extremely overactive imagination.

[NicholasMarks]

None of your of that nonsense is found in the Bible, it is entirely created by your extremely overactive imagination.

Written like a true antiChristian might Littleroses...but if no one conveys Jesus' message to you you can't possibly be saved...and  Almighty God has stated that he isn't being slow in his Judgement, as we measure slowness, but is delaying so that all can claim salvation...but one thing is certain...the science won't change...you must change, or be lost...but I suspect that as the great tribulations bear down heavily upon us, you will have a change of heart...unless, of course, you have taken on the number of the beast...It is the number of a man...666.

[Anchorman]

The Holy Bible is all the evidence I need Anchorman and the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ. Not my reasoning...that is just extracted from the Holy Bible...but Jesus Christ has given us a knowledge that passeth all understanding...which I claim is a science because everything tallies...everything unifies into one understanding...the dream of all astrophysicists but who stumble over fitting gravity into the mix...yet, thanks to Jesus Christ, we know exactly how they all come together, including gravity. Now...when you read your Holy Bible, forget all the add-ons that Constantine engineered into religion, forget about the unjustified claims that Jesus and Almighty God are the same being...because that way you have written out one part of our Deity and substituted him with the other...and concentrate upon accepting that righteousness isn't out to ensnare you...what is written is true...no need to read it in many different languages, just use the natural innocent alertness of reasoning, that debogging your mind of all junk, offers to every aspect of your health, including the power of reason, but, most importantly, prepare yourself with the right attitude to be saved...or, as Jesus put it...prepare your lamp for the groom.

     

   



Scripture may indeed be al you need to convince you, NM.
However, if you are trying to convince anyone else, Scripture is not enough.
You must - again I repeat MUST - back up your, er, unique, interpretation of Scripture in order for anyone, believer on unbeliever, to take one word serioisly.
You have not done so.
Not even once.

[Stranger]

The Holy Bible is all the evidence I need Anchorman and the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ. Not my reasoning...that is just extracted from the Holy Bible...but Jesus Christ has given us a knowledge that passeth all understanding...which I claim is a science because everything tallies...everything unifies into one understanding...the dream of all astrophysicists but who stumble over fitting gravity into the mix...yet, thanks to Jesus Christ, we know exactly how they all come together, including gravity.

No "we" don't. Do enlighten us as to how you've reconciled gravity with quantum field theory. The world is waiting for your deep insight!

Actually I lied, everybody with any science education at all can tell from your posts that you know bugger all about science.

 

[Roses]

Written like a true antiChristian might Littleroses...but if no one conveys Jesus' message to you you can't possibly be saved...and  Almighty God has stated that he isn't being slow in his Judgement, as we measure slowness, but is delaying so that all can claim salvation...but one thing is certain...the science won't change...you must change, or be lost...but I suspect that as the great tribulations bear down heavily upon us, you will have a change of heart...unless, of course, you have taken on the number of the beast...It is the number of a man...666.

Your version of Christianity is one that is not recognised as such by any denomination. You make it up as you go along, you are no more convincing than a child's fairy tale, probably less so.

[NicholasMarks]

No "we" don't. Do enlighten us as to how you've reconciled gravity with quantum field theory. The world is waiting for your deep insight!

Actually I lied, everybody with any science education at all can tell from your posts that you know bugger all about science.

 

It all begins and ends with an invisible, superabundant, dynamic energy...that has always been and always will be, Stranger. Not unlike dark energy and dark matter, but with a much bigger bite. If you can't get your head around that then you won't get your head around anything I say...but Almighty God, endorsed by Jesus Christ, says clearly...look into the heavens, who put them all there, with the superabundance of his dynamic energy/mighty power, not one is missing...and everyone is identified and catalogued, according to the same verses, in Isaiah, if your interested.

Now...if you hit upon the correct science you can identify all things that have a scientific footprint...and Jesus Christ and Almighty God made those footprints.



 

[Dicky Underpants]

If you can't get your head around that then you won't get your head around anything I say

I think Stranger has got his head around the fact that you know bugger all about science.

...but Almighty God, endorsed by Jesus Christ, says clearly...look into the heavens, who put them all there, with the superabundance of his dynamic energy/mighty power, not one is missing...and everyone is identified and catalogued, according to the same verses, in Isaiah, if your interested.

Only one 'translation' renders the words in that verse as 'dynamic energy', and that is the New World Translation. There is a reason for that, and it has nothing to do with the perpetrators' knowledge (or lack of) of Hebrew. There is a phenomenon among the fundamentalist fringe of 'Christian' sects, whether Trinitarian or otherwise, to be on the look out for various modern scientific developments, in order to see whether they might twist this or that biblical text to give it the appearance of scientific fore-knowledge. By this they attempt to give the Bible added credibility, except where modern science goes completely against certain cherished literal interpretations of the text (such as Evolution by Natural Selection). In such cases as the latter, the game is to misquote and cherry-pick the words of maverick scientists in order to give a false legitimacy to so-called 'Biblical science'. The Jehovah's Witnesses have a little team of 'science watchers' specially devoted to this sort of task.
You yourself are simply a variant of this, carried to an extreme. Thinking that by arbitrarily scattering unrelated scientific-sounding phrases such as 'Hadron collider' 'Black Holes' 'Big bang' and Einstein's famous equation you give your fantasies credibility. You don't.

By the way, you still haven't answered my question as to where in the Bible it says that God died and was resurrected before the life, death and supposed resurrection of Jesus.

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[Stranger]

It all begins and ends with an invisible, superabundant, dynamic energy...that has always been and always will be, Stranger.

One of the problems with this is that energy isn't stuff - it's like momentum. It's a number we can calculate that keeps track of the fact that the laws of physics don't change over time - momentum keeps track of the fact that they don't vary from place to place. In relativity, we combine them into the energy-momentum four-vector.

Anyway, one of the upshots of all that is that you can't have energy just hanging around by itself (no matter how "invisible, superabundant, and dynamic" it might happen to be). There has to be something that has energy.

Not unlike dark energy and dark matter, but with a much bigger bite.

Since these are just labels for observations that we currently have no tested theories to explain, that doesn't help very much. It is also almost certain that they are two very, very different things.

How do you calculate the bigness of bite? What units is it measured in?

If you can't get your head around that then you won't get your head around anything I say...

It's not a question of getting my head around it - what you've said is scientifically meaningless gibberish.

...but Almighty God, endorsed by Jesus Christ, says clearly...look into the heavens, who put them all there, with the superabundance of his dynamic energy/mighty power...

Gibberish again - apart from anything else you can't (scientifically) put "dynamic energy/mighty power" (unless it's supposed to be a division, in which case, you're saying "...who put them all there, with the superabundance of his dynamic and mighty time") - power and energy aren't the same thing.

You are clearly utterly (and rather comically, at times) clueless when it comes to science and pretending otherwise is dishonest. Perhaps you think lying for Jesus is okay?

[Roses]

It all begins and ends with an invisible, superabundant, dynamic energy...that has always been and always will be, Stranger. Not unlike dark energy and dark matter, but with a much bigger bite. If you can't get your head around that then you won't get your head around anything I say...but Almighty God, endorsed by Jesus Christ, says clearly...look into the heavens, who put them all there, with the superabundance of his dynamic energy/mighty power, not one is missing...and everyone is identified and catalogued, according to the same verses, in Isaiah, if your interested.

Now...if you hit upon the correct science you can identify all things that have a scientific footprint...and Jesus Christ and Almighty God made those footprints.

Your idea of science is make believe, which isn't anything to do with the actual subject.

[NicholasMarks]

I think Stranger has got his head around the fact that you know bugger all about science.

Only one 'translation' renders the words in that verse as 'dynamic energy', and that is the New World Translation. There is a reason for that, and it has nothing to do with the perpetrators' knowledge (or lack of) of Hebrew. There is a phenomenon among the fundamentalist fringe of 'Christian' sects, whether Trinitarian or otherwise, to be on the look out for various modern scientific developments, in order to see whether they might twist this or that biblical text to give it the appearance of scientific fore-knowledge. By this they attempt to give the Bible added credibility, except where modern science goes completely against certain cherished literal interpretations of the text (such as Evolution by Natural Selection). In such cases as the latter, the game is to misquote and cherry-pick the words of maverick scientists in order to give a false legitimacy to so-called 'Biblical science'. The Jehovah's Witnesses have a little team of 'science watchers' specially devoted to this sort of task.
You yourself are simply a variant of this, carried to an extreme. Thinking that by arbitrarily scattering unrelated scientific-sounding phrases such as 'Hadron collider' 'Black Holes' 'Big bang' and Einstein's famous equation you give your fantasies credibility. You don't.

By the way, you still haven't answered my question as to where in the Bible it says that God died and was resurrected before the life, death and supposed resurrection of Jesus.

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The Biblical facts that state Almighty God was the first to be resurrected is Jesus Christ...Jesus followed the example of his father as a witness of all the things that his father had endured...you see, evil existed in Heaven until, by God's righteous stance, it was defeated, just as it will be defeated here. Jesus told us about the tactics God used and how all those that followed righteousness survived through the same tribulations that we are about to face. This is where God's 'word' will save us because resurrection is just one of its many attributes...repair, peace, good-will and harmony between all those saved will accompany it...and...because it is a science, it will not fail those who put their faith in that teaching...accurately...mind.

 

[Anchorman]

I think Stranger has got his head around the fact that you know bugger all about science.

Only one 'translation' renders the words in that verse as 'dynamic energy', and that is the New World Translation. There is a reason for that, and it has nothing to do with the perpetrators' knowledge (or lack of) of Hebrew. There is a phenomenon among the fundamentalist fringe of 'Christian' sects, whether Trinitarian or otherwise, to be on the look out for various modern scientific developments, in order to see whether they might twist this or that biblical text to give it the appearance of scientific fore-knowledge. By this they attempt to give the Bible added credibility, except where modern science goes completely against certain cherished literal interpretations of the text (such as Evolution by Natural Selection). In such cases as the latter, the game is to misquote and cherry-pick the words of maverick scientists in order to give a false legitimacy to so-called 'Biblical science'. The Jehovah's Witnesses have a little team of 'science watchers' specially devoted to this sort of task.
You yourself are simply a variant of this, carried to an extreme. Thinking that by arbitrarily scattering unrelated scientific-sounding phrases such as 'Hadron collider' 'Black Holes' 'Big bang' and Einstein's famous equation you give your fantasies credibility. You don't.

By the way, you still haven't answered my question as to where in the Bible it says that God died and was resurrected before the life, death and supposed resurrection of Jesus.

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Oy!
You forgot "reversed the polarity of the neutron flow"
As oft quoted by the Doctor in his second, third ind sixth regeneration.
Dynamically, of course.
I forgive you, though.

[NicholasMarks]

One of the problems with this is that energy isn't stuff - it's like momentum. It's a number we can calculate that keeps track of the fact that the laws of physics don't change over time - momentum keeps track of the fact that they don't vary from place to place. In relativity, we combine them into the energy-momentum four-vector.

Anyway, one of the upshots of all that is that you can't have energy just hanging around by itself (no matter how "invisible, superabundant, and dynamic" it might happen to be). There has to be something that has energy.

Since these are just labels for observations that we currently have no tested theories to explain, that doesn't help very much. It is also almost certain that they are two very, very different things.

How do you calculate the bigness of bite? What units is it measured in?

It's not a question of getting my head around it - what you've said is scientifically meaningless gibberish.

Gibberish again - apart from anything else you can't (scientifically) put "dynamic energy/mighty power" (unless it's supposed to be a division, in which case, you're saying "...who put them all there, with the superabundance of his dynamic and mighty time") - power and energy aren't the same thing.

You are clearly utterly (and rather comically, at times) clueless when it comes to science and pretending otherwise is dishonest. Perhaps you think lying for Jesus is okay?

It doesn't matter how you phrase it or how science has interpreted their facts, by ignoring Almighty God they have ignored the essence of all science. It is indisputable...it is the only logic that makes any sense...Jesus Christ died and was resurrected showing us about it and now a new science is emerging from it which knocks all the old sciences into touch. I have put it to the test and try to convey the wonderful insight it has given me...especially when you consider that every living cell is complicit with how we behave and handle this energy within us. Every expression is a nervous expression and requires the burning of some of this energy so that if we waste this energy screaming and shouting like hysterical banshees over sustained periods of time, which many are doing all the while, it is no small wonder when their health fails. The science is so deep and so complex that it is just best to follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ...as he taught it, as he lived it, and as he tells us to follow it, especially as the evidence suggests that we are now living in the last days.

The Holy Bible talks about two dimensions of the universe, our dimension and God's dimension. I have interpreted this to mean the high-speed, expanding dimension, which we live in, and a static dimension which presumably existed before the big-bang, and exists still, and it is the interactions between these two dimensions which give us all science when we incorporate an indestructible, superabundant, dynamic energy, owned by our Creator, into the mix. Down playing it or trying to make it sound gibberish wont make the energy, the science or our Deity disappear...it is now revealed to the world and will carry God's momentum until God's Judgement is passed.

   

[Stranger]

It doesn't matter how you phrase it or how science has interpreted their facts, by ignoring Almighty God they have ignored the essence of all science.

This alone tells me that you have no idea at all of even what science means. If I were a betting man, I'd place a substantial amount of money on you have exactly zero qualifications in anything remotely related to science. You are completely scientifically illiterate.

It is indisputable...

On the contrary, anybody with so much as a GCSE in general science is very likely to dispute it.

You are free to believe any crazy nonsense you like, but calling what you believe science is delusional or dishonest.

[NicholasMarks]

This alone tells me that you have no idea at all of even what science means. If I were a betting man, I'd place a substantial amount of money on you have exactly zero qualifications in anything remotely related to science. You are completely scientifically illiterate.

On the contrary, anybody with so much as a GCSE in general science is very likely to dispute it.

You are free to believe any crazy nonsense you like, but calling what you believe science is delusional or dishonest.

You must think that screaming abuse, ridicule and all other derogatory remarks is something new to mankind Stranger...It is a well known tactic and just shows the character of the abuser. Jesus Christ, himself, suffered much of it, but he still got his point across, which is, that there is a superabundant, dynamic energy, that is all around us all the time, and if we harness it righteously, as Jesus Christ, alone, taught us to, then repair, resurrection, and everlasting life becomes available to us...A code that brings alive all the fruits Jesus promised. Now the problem with that is it is the same energy that evil thrives on by manipulation and abuse, winding up the masses and generally surviving off the distress and ill health they course...but not for much longer...hey.

[Gordon]

You must think that screaming abuse, ridicule and all other derogatory remarks is something new to mankind Stranger...It is a well known tactic and just shows the character of the abuser.

Or it is a reasonable response to what you say, Nick: aside from the 'screaming abuse' accusation, which none of your regular interlocutors is guilty of.

Jesus Christ, himself, suffered much of it, but he still got his point across, which is, that there is a superabundant, dynamic energy, that is all around us all the time, and if we harness it righteously, as Jesus Christ, alone, taught us to, then repair, resurrection, and everlasting life becomes available to us...A code that brings alive all the fruits Jesus promised. Now the problem with that is it is the same energy that evil thrives on by manipulation and abuse, winding up the masses and generally surviving off the distress and ill health they course...but not for much longer...hey.

Just no, Nick: this is theobabble of the first order.