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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2000 on: July 27, 2018, 08:13:17 PM »
Well...there you have it...I believe the Holy Bible implicitly...but then I would because I have discovered a wonderful science embedded in its teaching, Maeght. Don't worry if you can't see the same science even though I have explained it to you...Weeping and gnashing your teeth might be your favourite past-time...and who am I to try and save you from yourself...if a sulphurous eviction, lasting for all eternity, is your heart's desire.

You have imagined, not discovered, this 'wonderful science' you go on about. There is no weeping or gnashing of teeth with me, but I am trying to save you from wasting your time on your fantasies.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2001 on: July 27, 2018, 08:17:36 PM »
The part where you pretend to understand science when you obviously don't.


Science, for me, Stranger, is working out what is going on in a repeatable way, over and over again, until a better reasoning comes along. Well...I have linked this dynamic energy into every facet of science and no one has proven me wrong....yet. I got it all from the Holy Bible so the Holy Bible is either scientifically spot on else Almighty God has been playing tricks on us...but the science says he isn't...so...the ones in error are the ones who condemn the Holy Bible because they have failed to see it as a resource to find valuable scientific information from...and yours and my resurrection is what is at stake if we bull-nose our way through what is truly a profound and wonderful science...but I know for a fact, cus it's in the Holy Bible...that there is a time-limit and it all revolves around things which will be presented from the heavens and I believe that very soon it will be totally undeniable.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2002 on: July 27, 2018, 08:19:31 PM »
Well...there you have it...I believe the Holy Bible implicitly...but then I would because I have discovered a wonderful science embedded in its teaching...

You clearly wouldn't know real science if you fell over it, so even if there were a "wonderful science" in the bible, you'd be too ignorant to recognise it.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2003 on: July 27, 2018, 08:21:45 PM »

Science, for me, Stranger, is working out what is going on in a repeatable way, over and over again, until a better reasoning comes along. Well...I have linked this dynamic energy into every facet of science and no one has proven me wrong....yet. I got it all from the Holy Bible so the Holy Bible is either scientifically spot on else Almighty God has been playing tricks on us...but the science says he isn't...so...the ones in error are the ones who condemn the Holy Bible because they have failed to see it as a resource to find valuable scientific information from...and yours and my resurrection is what is at stake if we bull-nose our way through what is truly a profound and wonderful science...but I know for a fact, cus it's in the Holy Bible...that there is a time-limit and it all revolves around things which will be presented from the heavens and I believe that very soon it will be totally undeniable.





.....or those of us with scientific, historical and other qualifications, who read and accept Scripture (in an ACCURATE translation) have been allowed, by the Holy Spirit, to use our God-given intellect to interpret Scripture in the light of science and history.....real science, of course, for which we can provide real evidence.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2004 on: July 27, 2018, 08:30:26 PM »
Science, for me, Stranger...

Science is science, there is no science "for me".

Well...I have linked this dynamic energy into every facet of science...

No you haven't. You haven't even defined it in a scientific way, let alone linked it to even a single "facet of science".

...and no one has proven me wrong....yet.

You can't prove meaningless gibberish to be wrong; if it's devoid of meaning (which applies to most of what you say) then it isn't even wrong.

You also cannot correct somebody's mistakes if they have no knowledge whatsoever of the subject matter and refuse to learn anything.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2005 on: July 27, 2018, 09:52:29 PM »

Stranger/Anchorman...

Unpleasant jibes are the bread and butter of a true Christian...remember Jesus Christ's words...don't get too concerned if they hate and despise you because they hated and despised me (Jesus) before you....or words to that effect. The simple truth is that righteousness is a code of behaviour that everyone can live under and feel a warmth of being instead of the continual aggression and hostility...remember the Japanese 5S's. Hostility and unkindness works both ways...it is injurious to the recipient when they have no righteous protection but it is also injurious to the perpetrator because both parties nervous strength is born from the same electrical mechanics within us and both are wasting this vital strength unnecessarily. This is why the Holy bible says we suffer from the sins of our fathers and our forefathers because the genetic malfunctions thus caused, is how death came into the world. This is how we know that our spiritual abuses constitute sin...because death came into the world because of our sins. Our problem is that genetically our sinfulness is obscured by the mental blindness caused by our sins...the very same sins that Jesus leads us out of.

We can then say that genetic malfunctions are the result of our emotional/nervous behaviour, going back to the behaviour of our fathers and our forefathers, and in addition to this, that evolution is controlled by the nervous behaviour of a species because it then becomes obvious that when they reach out for vital, environmental necessities, they can alter their genetic code. This being evolutions first law. This transcribes into an even deeper and more wonderful scientific law whereby reaching out for the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ alters our genetic coding as well, in a good and wholesome way.




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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2006 on: July 27, 2018, 09:59:02 PM »
This is why the Holy bible says we suffer from the sins of our fathers and our forefathers because the genetic malfunctions thus caused, is how death came into the world. This is how we know that our spiritual abuses constitute sin...because death came into the world because of our sins.

To select just one point you raise, Nick: it is inarguable fact that death predates people since we have examples of dead things that died long before there were any people - therefore you are wrong in what you say.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2007 on: July 27, 2018, 10:14:22 PM »
To select just one point you raise, Nick: it is inarguable fact that death predates people since we have examples of dead things that died long before there were any people - therefore you are wrong in what you say.

Thank you for that Gordon...you see...according to my understanding, extracted from a combination of science and God's written word...seeing them as both being accurate and correct...that life had evolved here for a very long time before the planet became void. It is likely that a mishap that appears to be returning this way caused a catastrophe that rendered this planet lifeless, even though it contained all the ingredients for life...it just needed a little kick-start. I say this because God says that the planet, whilst being void had darkness on the face of the watery deep which describes a planet tidally locked...all it needed was a little spin on its axis. Then we can see that Adam and Eve represented a new beginning for life whilst the planet still contained evidence of its previous existence...but in Almighty God's records it marked a new beginning.

 

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2008 on: July 27, 2018, 10:36:02 PM »
Thank you for that Gordon...you see...according to my understanding,

Perhaps you have misunderstood.

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extracted from a combination of science and God's written word...seeing them as both being accurate and correct...

The Christian bible isn't a science book, and I'll think you'll find scientists (such as astronomers and cosmologists) don't see the Christian bible as a science book.

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that life had evolved here for a very long time before the planet became void. It is likely that a mishap that appears to be returning this way caused a catastrophe that rendered this planet lifeless, even though it contained all the ingredients for life...it just needed a little kick-start. I say this because God says that the planet, whilst being void had darkness on the face of the watery deep which describes a planet tidally locked...all it needed was a little spin on its axis.

What do cosmologists say about the Earth being tidally locked in the past and how it became unlocked?
 
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Then we can see that Adam and Eve represented a new beginning for life whilst the planet still contained evidence of its previous existence...but in Almighty God's records it marked a new beginning.

So the old story goes, Nick: but an old story is all it is.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2009 on: July 27, 2018, 10:37:22 PM »
Thank you for that Gordon...you see...according to my understanding, extracted from a combination of science and God's written word...seeing them as both being accurate and correct...that life had evolved here for a very long time before the planet became void. It is likely that a mishap that appears to be returning this way caused a catastrophe that rendered this planet lifeless, even though it contained all the ingredients for life...it just needed a little kick-start. I say this because God says that the planet, whilst being void had darkness on the face of the watery deep which describes a planet tidally locked...all it needed was a little spin on its axis. Then we can see that Adam and Eve represented a new beginning for life whilst the planet still contained evidence of its previous existence...but in Almighty God's records it marked a new beginning.

 


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2010 on: July 27, 2018, 11:24:29 PM »
The man is what he is, isn't it about time he was left alone?

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« Reply #2011 on: July 27, 2018, 11:48:49 PM »
I agree with you ippy.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2012 on: July 28, 2018, 07:27:22 AM »
NM, do you have any evidence for your void earth, tidal lock, re spin theory beyond your interpretation of the Bible? That is a simple yes/no question so please don't get 'carried away' in your answer.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2013 on: July 28, 2018, 07:55:15 AM »
Thank you for that Gordon...you see...according to my understanding, extracted from a combination of science and God's written word...seeing them as both being accurate and correct...that life had evolved here for a very long time before the planet became void. It is likely that a mishap that appears to be returning this way caused a catastrophe that rendered this planet lifeless, even though it contained all the ingredients for life...it just needed a little kick-start. I say this because God says that the planet, whilst being void had darkness on the face of the watery deep which describes a planet tidally locked...all it needed was a little spin on its axis. Then we can see that Adam and Eve represented a new beginning for life whilst the planet still contained evidence of its previous existence...but in Almighty God's records it marked a new beginning.

There is no evidence that the planet stopped spinning; in fact we know that the Earth's spin is slowing down,it was faster in the past. If the far distant future we might become tidally locked to the Sun but in that case we would still be spinning but more slowly such that a day is the same length as a year.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2014 on: July 28, 2018, 08:43:39 AM »
We can then say that genetic malfunctions are the result of our emotional/nervous behaviour, going back to the behaviour of our fathers and our forefathers, and in addition to this, that evolution is controlled by the nervous behaviour of a species because it then becomes obvious that when they reach out for vital, environmental necessities, they can alter their genetic code. This being evolutions first law.

You can indeed say that but you'd be completely wrong to do so because it is simply untrue.  This is what's called 'bearing false witness' and it has nothing to do with 'righteousness' - quite to opposite.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2015 on: July 28, 2018, 11:48:41 AM »

Stranger/torridon/Maeght/Robbie/ippy/Gordon/Anchorman...

From my perspective the Holy Bible is 100% accurate and making science fit into its profile the force behind what I am saying throughout all of my reasoning. The key points are that there is an invisible, undetectable, superabundant, dynamic energy behind the entire books of both the Holy Bible and science which both unify under the understanding that everything is energy...I make no apologies for that.

Science has reached the point where it talks about free energy but the Holy Bible has reached the point where the highest authority in the universe tells us how we can harness this energy, upbuild it in a wonderful way which guarantees everlasting life in a world and a universe that embraces that high authority to the max. Of course we aren't there yet, but it is forthcoming and there are special laws to capture these wonderful promises by...they are called righteousness and they are all embraced within the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ as long as we read and follow what he says rather than the twisted and mudded versions that iniquity offers....Take it or leave it...but forthcoming events wont need me to guide you through them...that  is the exclusive domain of Jesus Christ's accurate teaching.

   

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2016 on: July 28, 2018, 12:00:06 PM »
The key points are that there is an invisible, undetectable, superabundant, dynamic energy behind the entire books of both the Holy Bible and science...

Untrue.

Science has reached the point where it talks about free energy...

Untrue.

Oh, and where are those equations which you spoke of in #1983?
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2017 on: July 28, 2018, 12:15:18 PM »
Stranger/torridon/Maeght/Robbie/ippy/Gordon/Anchorman...

From my perspective the Holy Bible is 100% accurate and making science fit into its profile the force behind what I am saying throughout all of my reasoning. The key points are that there is an invisible, undetectable, superabundant, dynamic energy behind the entire books of both the Holy Bible and science which both unify under the understanding that everything is energy...I make no apologies for that.

Science has reached the point where it talks about free energy but the Holy Bible has reached the point where the highest authority in the universe tells us how we can harness this energy, upbuild it in a wonderful way which guarantees everlasting life in a world and a universe that embraces that high authority to the max. Of course we aren't there yet, but it is forthcoming and there are special laws to capture these wonderful promises by...they are called righteousness and they are all embraced within the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ as long as we read and follow what he says rather than the twisted and mudded versions that iniquity offers....Take it or leave it...but forthcoming events wont need me to guide you through them...that  is the exclusive domain of Jesus Christ's accurate teaching.

 


Well at least you admit it is from your perspective, which is at odds with the perspective of other posters. 
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2018 on: July 28, 2018, 12:47:30 PM »
Stranger/torridon/Maeght/Robbie/ippy/Gordon/Anchorman...

From my perspective the Holy Bible is 100% accurate and making science fit into its profile the force behind what I am saying throughout all of my reasoning. The key points are that there is an invisible, undetectable, superabundant, dynamic energy behind the entire books of both the Holy Bible and science which both unify under the understanding that everything is energy...I make no apologies for that.

Science has reached the point where it talks about free energy but the Holy Bible has reached the point where the highest authority in the universe tells us how we can harness this energy, upbuild it in a wonderful way which guarantees everlasting life in a world and a universe that embraces that high authority to the max. Of course we aren't there yet, but it is forthcoming and there are special laws to capture these wonderful promises by...they are called righteousness and they are all embraced within the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ as long as we read and follow what he says rather than the twisted and mudded versions that iniquity offers....Take it or leave it...but forthcoming events wont need me to guide you through them...that  is the exclusive domain of Jesus Christ's accurate teaching.

 

Yes, we all know what you imagine and what you believe.

How do you want to proceed NM? If you post pseudo science on here you must expect a response. If you post pseudo theology on here you must expect a response. Do you want to continue with all this?

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2019 on: July 28, 2018, 01:14:00 PM »
Stranger/torridon/Maeght/Robbie/ippy/Gordon/Anchorman...

From my perspective the Holy Bible is 100% accurate and making science fit into its profile the force behind what I am saying throughout all of my reasoning. The key points are that there is an invisible, undetectable, superabundant, dynamic energy behind the entire books of both the Holy Bible and science which both unify under the understanding that everything is energy...I make no apologies for that.

Science has reached the point where it talks about free energy but the Holy Bible has reached the point where the highest authority in the universe tells us how we can harness this energy, upbuild it in a wonderful way which guarantees everlasting life in a world and a universe that embraces that high authority to the max. Of course we aren't there yet, but it is forthcoming and there are special laws to capture these wonderful promises by...they are called righteousness and they are all embraced within the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ as long as we read and follow what he says rather than the twisted and mudded versions that iniquity offers....Take it or leave it...but forthcoming events wont need me to guide you through them...that  is the exclusive domain of Jesus Christ's accurate teaching.
 

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2020 on: July 28, 2018, 01:32:59 PM »

Maeght/Littleroses/Stranger/torri...


Stranger...

How's this Stranger...E=mc2. What that actually means is that all mass is energy. It also means that all energy, which is much more abundant than the mass it represents, was carefully packaged inside every single atom. Now, your task is to work out how that can possibly happen via a wild singularity with no energy to call its own, where as my method...extracted from the Holy Bible...gives us a clear indication because the higgs field was produced first and the slightest hint of a higgs-field in the middle of a dense field of dynamic energy has only one, calculatable result, and, depending upon how deep within that furnace it is, will syphon fixed amounts of energy into its bosom, in a very precise way...but its all getting very boring.


Littleroses...

You will find that Jesus Christ's teaching is at odds with most people who deny his existence Littleroses...and science isn't everyone's forte...but faith is perhaps more easily acceptable to those who know something very hostile is at work in their lives, and it isn't Jesus Christ.


Maeght...

It's your salvation that is at  stake Maeght...It won't make much difference to me but it will to you. You see...for Almighty God and Jesus Christ to bring everyone into one state of harmony we all need to change our attitudes and this will be the deciding factor upon who is saved because, even you Maeght, must realise that the world can't continue as it is for much longer and it is very comforting to know you are on the winning team without much more effort than just trying to be righteous.


torridon...

I'm not sure that 'wibble' is a word torri, but to contain any truthful meaning at all it must mean...here is a wonderful science, with hall-marks of Biblical truth stamped all over it and we must all try to adopt its teaching into our daily lives, before it's too late. Then the word 'wibble' could have been correctly used.


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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2021 on: July 28, 2018, 01:45:08 PM »
Maeght/Littleroses/Stranger/torri...


Stranger...

How's this Stranger...E=mc2. What that actually means is that all mass is energy. It also means that all energy, which is much more abundant than the mass it represents, was carefully packaged inside every single atom. Now, your task is to work out how that can possibly happen via a wild singularity with no energy to call its own, where as my method...extracted from the Holy Bible...gives us a clear indication because the higgs field was produced first and the slightest hint of a higgs-field in the middle of a dense field of dynamic energy has only one, calculatable result, and, depending upon how deep within that furnace it is, will syphon fixed amounts of energy into its bosom, in a very precise way...but its all getting very boring.


Littleroses...

You will find that Jesus Christ's teaching is at odds with most people who deny his existence Littleroses...and science isn't everyone's forte...but faith is perhaps more easily acceptable to those who know something very hostile is at work in their lives, and it isn't Jesus Christ.


Maeght...

It's your salvation that is at  stake Maeght...It won't make much difference to me but it will to you. You see...for Almighty God and Jesus Christ to bring everyone into one state of harmony we all need to change our attitudes and this will be the deciding factor upon who is saved because, even you Maeght, must realise that the world can't continue as it is for much longer and it is very comforting to know you are on the winning team without much more effort than just trying to be righteous.


torridon...

I'm not sure that 'wibble' is a word torri, but to contain any truthful meaning at all it must mean...here is a wonderful science, with hall-marks of Biblical truth stamped all over it and we must all try to adopt its teaching into our daily lives, before it's too late. Then the word 'wibble' could have been correctly used.


I think a guy called Jesus existed, but what was claimed for him was not credible. Can you provide evidence to verify the virgin birth and resurrection?
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2022 on: July 28, 2018, 02:41:18 PM »
Maeght/Littleroses/Stranger/torri...


Maeght...

It's your salvation that is at  stake Maeght...It won't make much difference to me but it will to you. You see...for Almighty God and Jesus Christ to bring everyone into one state of harmony we all need to change our attitudes and this will be the deciding factor upon who is saved because, even you Maeght, must realise that the world can't continue as it is for much longer and it is very comforting to know you are on the winning team without much more effort than just trying to be righteous.


I have no belief in God. I cannot make myself believe - no one can do that. I act in such a way as to do as little harm to others and to the environment as I can. We all need to change our attitudes towards the environment and each other or else human civilisation won't continue. Beyond that, don't worry yourself about my salvation. Nothing you say will make a difference to that.

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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2023 on: July 28, 2018, 02:54:59 PM »
NM is exercising his typing fingers to no good purpose, no one is taking his nonsense seriously.
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Re: The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2024 on: July 28, 2018, 03:07:07 PM »

It's your salvation that is at  stake Maeght...It won't make much difference to me but it will to you. You see...for Almighty God and Jesus Christ to bring everyone into one state of harmony we all need to change our attitudes and this will be the deciding factor upon who is saved because, even you Maeght, must realise that the world can't continue as it is for much longer and it is very comforting to know you are on the winning team without much more effort than just trying to be righteous.


No need to worry about anything if there is a God.  If that is the case, then we have a safety net and God will make everything good.