The Electric/Spiritual Universe of Jesus Christ

[NicholasMarks]

What a totally meaningless sentence! But then that is all one expects from you.

It is such a meaningless answer that huge congregations of many different Christians have been spawned from it, Littleroses. A wonderful organisation called the Samaritans use its finer points to ease people's troubled minds when they are trapped in this emotional black-hole syndrome that you describe. The entire Catholic church harnessed the technical side of this reasoning through their confessional and lo and behold...Sigmund Freud decided to harness its finer points for the purpose of unravelling the mind...but it is all meaningless to you Littleroses which is perhaps why it had no effect.

[Stranger]

It is such a meaningless answer that huge congregations of many different Christians have been spawned from it, Littleroses. A wonderful organisation called the Samaritans use its finer points to ease people's troubled minds when they are trapped in this emotional black-hole syndrome that you describe. The entire Catholic church harnessed the technical side of this reasoning through their confessional and lo and behold...Sigmund Freud decided to harness its finer points for the purpose of unravelling the mind...but it is all meaningless to you Littleroses which is perhaps why it had no effect.

All totally untrue - none of those organisations use drivel like "...by proper prayerful request we hit the universal frequency that delivers God's righteous energy for our emotional support" simply because (as Littleroses said) it's totally meaningless.

[Roses]

It is such a meaningless answer that huge congregations of many different Christians have been spawned from it, Littleroses. A wonderful organisation called the Samaritans use its finer points to ease people's troubled minds when they are trapped in this emotional black-hole syndrome that you describe. The entire Catholic church harnessed the technical side of this reasoning through their confessional and lo and behold...Sigmund Freud decided to harness its finer points for the purpose of unravelling the mind...but it is all meaningless to you Littleroses which is perhaps why it had no effect.

Linking your drivel with the Samaritans is an insult to that organisation!

[Anchorman]

Nick:

Nick if you were to watch some of whatever your favourite sport happens to be with a group of friends, would you have a good chat about whatever sport it happened to be after it's finished or do you do a full length sermon about whatever the sport was?

You know a sermon as opposed to a good chat or visa versa?

There you are Nick I've updated and tailored the question specially to suit you.

Regards ippy

   



....which reminds me;
I managed to use Formula 1as a hook for a sermon once.....

[Anchorman]

All totally untrue - none of those organisations use drivel like "...by proper prayerful request we hit the universal frequency that delivers God's righteous energy for our emotional support" simply because (as Littleroses said) it's totally meaningless.

There is a reason for this, Stranger.
Trust me, it's hard to utter meaningless tripe like this in prayer whwn you're sucking a Mint Imperial.

[ippy]

Your refusal to accept my answer isn't my fault ippy. As I pointed out there is an analogy with the Samaritans who have to deal with people  who are so wound up often because others are getting a thrill out of the exercise. You want to help in these matters ippy, then stop trying to wind people up.

Why wont you answer a perfectly reasonable Question Nick what the Samaritans have to do with the question I asked of you I've no idea, so as follows:

 'Nick if you were to watch some of whatever your favourite sport happens to be with a group of friends, would you have a good chat about whatever sport it happened to be after it's finished or do you do a full length sermon about whatever the sport was'?

You know a sermon as opposed to a good chat or visa versa?

There you are Nick I've updated and tailored the question specially to suit you.

It's not a trick question Nick.

Kind regards ippy

[NicholasMarks]

Why wont you answer a perfectly reasonable Question Nick what the Samaritans have to do with the question I asked of you I've no idea, so as follows:

 'Nick if you were to watch some of whatever your favourite sport happens to be with a group of friends, would you have a good chat about whatever sport it happened to be after it's finished or do you do a full length sermon about whatever the sport was'?

You know a sermon as opposed to a good chat or visa versa?

There you are Nick I've updated and tailored the question specially to suit you.

It's not a trick question Nick.

Kind regards ippy

Your not reading what I'm saying ippy.. which means I don't have to take you too seriously either...but I do. The analogy with the Samaritans  shows us that people reach a point of despair which righteousness is the greatest help with and that your continual circular argument is part of the need for us to think about what we are saying. Your refusal to see that Jesus taught us the bare bones of a wonderful God and how to avoid emotional black-holes of the sort you are trying to dig makes it valid for me to make my analogy. You have been answered and I'm afraid I have nothing to add...unless perhaps you want to know how my latest project is performing...and, it seems,  from the results, so far, I'm spot on the money.


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[ippy]

Your not reading what I'm saying ippy.. which means I don't have to take you too seriously either...but I do. The analogy with the Samaritans  shows us that people reach a point of despair which righteousness is the greatest help with and that your continual circular argument is part of the need for us to think about what we are saying. Your refusal to see that Jesus taught us the bare bones of a wonderful God and how to avoid emotional black-holes of the sort you are trying to dig makes it valid for me to make my analogy. You have been answered and I'm afraid I have nothing to add...unless perhaps you want to know how my latest project is performing...and, it seems,  from the results, so far, I'm spot on the money.

Nick, you've just written this lot to me as follows:

Your not reading what I'm saying ippy.. which means I don't have to take you too seriously either...but I do. The analogy with the Samaritans  shows us that people reach a point of despair which righteousness is the greatest help with and that your continual circular argument is part of the need for us to think about what we are saying. Your refusal to see that Jesus taught us the bare bones of a wonderful God and how to avoid emotional black-holes of the sort you are trying to dig makes it valid for me to make my analogy. You have been answered and I'm afraid I have nothing to add...unless perhaps you want to know how my latest project is performing...and, it seems,  from the results, so far, I'm spot on the money.

Now this started with me asking you a question, it wasn't a response to anything you may or may have not written to me in the past.

All I would like to know from you is as follows:

 'Nick if you were to watch some of whatever your favourite sport happens to be with a group of friends, would you have a good chat about whatever sport it happened to be after it's finished or do you do a full length sermon about whatever the sport was'?

You know a sermon as opposed to a good chat or visa versa?

There you are Nick I've updated and tailored the question specially to suit you.

It's not a trick question Nick.

Is there any chance you could at least answer the actual question I'm asking of you First?

And then assuming you've answered the question I've asked you please feel free to enter any form of diatribe about whatever makes you happy.

Now pay attention answer the question I've asked you first before adding your usual diatribe that has no connection with anything I've ever asked you.

Like I keep telling you Nick, it's not a trick question, I'd like to hear about some of the more joyful moments I would like to think you have, and could perhaps share with us at least something about the usual fun banter between you and your good friends, I really enjoy good penetrating insult from a really good friend, this kind of thing is good for you it can stop you taking yourself to seriously.

Kind regards ippy.

 

[Roses]

Nick, you've just written this lot to me as follows:

Your not reading what I'm saying ippy.. which means I don't have to take you too seriously either...but I do. The analogy with the Samaritans  shows us that people reach a point of despair which righteousness is the greatest help with and that your continual circular argument is part of the need for us to think about what we are saying. Your refusal to see that Jesus taught us the bare bones of a wonderful God and how to avoid emotional black-holes of the sort you are trying to dig makes it valid for me to make my analogy. You have been answered and I'm afraid I have nothing to add...unless perhaps you want to know how my latest project is performing...and, it seems,  from the results, so far, I'm spot on the money.

Now this started with me asking you a question, it wasn't a response to anything you may or may have not written to me in the past.

All I would like to know from you is as follows:

 'Nick if you were to watch some of whatever your favourite sport happens to be with a group of friends, would you have a good chat about whatever sport it happened to be after it's finished or do you do a full length sermon about whatever the sport was'?

You know a sermon as opposed to a good chat or visa versa?

There you are Nick I've updated and tailored the question specially to suit you.

It's not a trick question Nick.

Is there any chance you could at least answer the actual question I'm asking of you First?

And then assuming you've answered the question I've asked you please feel free to enter any form of diatribe about whatever makes you happy.

Now pay attention answer the question I've asked you first before adding your usual diatribe that has no connection with anything I've ever asked you.

Like I keep telling you Nick, it's not a trick question, I'd like to hear about some of the more joyful moments I would like to think you have, and could perhaps share with us at least something about the usual fun banter between you and your good friends, I really enjoy good penetrating insult from a really good friend, this kind of thing is good for you it can stop you taking yourself to seriously.

Kind regards ippy.

NM doesn't appear to have an existence based on reality, but on a fantasy of his own creation.

[ippy]

NM doesn't appear to have an existence based on reality, but on a fantasy of his own creation.

ys'm sure he thinks I'm trying to catch him out in some way, I'm not.

I'd like to think for his sake he does some normal things, by the way Floo I hope you've read your bible today and done all of the required hail Marys?

Regards ippy

[Roses]

ys'm sure he thinks I'm trying to catch him out in some way, I'm not.

I'd like to think for his sake he does some normal things, by the way Floo I hope you've read your bible today and done all of the required hail Marys?

Regards ippy

I have read it today, the NIV version, Not the NM one. A hail Mary is superstitious nonsense, imo.

[ippy]

Nick I know it's an old saying but I'm going to put it to you.

'Has the cat got your tongue'?

Sermons are not acceptable on this particular question, in case you may have forgotten.

Kind regards ippy.

[NicholasMarks]

ippy/Littleroses...

ippy...

I'd like to tell you a little story ippy. It is based upon my work experiences where, though these took me all over the factory, centred on one particular area where one guy was highly excitable and easily wound-up. The rest of the guys obviously knew this and derived great pleasure from doing just that. Consequently, this guy, who had a very honest and hard working attitude would constantly be in turmoil. No one cared about the health implications...the safety implications...or even his home life implications. I did, because, even then, I was following Biblical insight and knew it was wrong...but how do you tackle such a problem when many in that factory department...a small factory within a factory...were tuned-in to the same practical joke. It's simple really...first of all you tell the guy he is being wound-up...tell him the truth...and calm the emotional despair he is feeling...Though Jesus Christ is at the root of that thinking...his name was never particularly mentioned. The consequences of telling such an excitable person that they are being wound-up is that he went to the wind-up merchants and tore a strip off them...but it is a small part of a much bigger picture...but, you see...I know when someone is trying to wind me up.

Littleroses...

If we itemise the different attributes that praying to Jesus delivers we can use man-made organizations to help explain them Littleroses...and I drew together three organizations that utilize the prayerful mechanism that Jesus introduced in his teaching...being...the RC church...The Samaritans...and the science brought into existence by Freud.   

It seems that if we follow our own desires many people get lost emotionally...you see a lady following the emotions derived from a film might easily find themselves pregnant...or involved in drugs etc. Similarly...people, in the past became reliant upon priests to air their burdens and finally Freud detected that a person can be emotionally governed by something long forgotten but is ever-present in the emotions of that person's today's world. So...praying to God, via Jesus Christ's accurate teaching is a bona fide way of sorting out our emotional problems..even deep-seated problems and as we lighten our emotional load our health is restored...and for those who have given it an honest try rather than a selfish, demanding trial, find that their energy levels increase to cope with those problems better and avoid them in the future, but, I'm afraid that condemning Jesus Christ won't help at all.

[ippy]

ippy/Littleroses...

ippy...

I'd like to tell you a little story ippy. It is based upon my work experiences where, though these took me all over the factory, centred on one particular area where one guy was highly excitable and easily wound-up. The rest of the guys obviously knew this and derived great pleasure from doing just that. Consequently, this guy, who had a very honest and hard working attitude would constantly be in turmoil. No one cared about the health implications...the safety implications...or even his home life implications. I did, because, even then, I was following Biblical insight and knew it was wrong...but how do you tackle such a problem when many in that factory department...a small factory within a factory...were tuned-in to the same practical joke. It's simple really...first of all you tell the guy he is being wound-up...tell him the truth...and calm the emotional despair he is feeling...Though Jesus Christ is at the root of that thinking...his name was never particularly mentioned. The consequences of telling such an excitable person that they are being wound-up is that he went to the wind-up merchants and tore a strip off them...but it is a small part of a much bigger picture...but, you see...I know when someone is trying to wind me up.

Littleroses...

If we itemise the different attributes that praying to Jesus delivers we can use man-made organizations to help explain them Littleroses...and I drew together three organizations that utilize the prayerful mechanism that Jesus introduced in his teaching...being...the RC church...The Samaritans...and the science brought into existence by Freud.   

It seems that if we follow our own desires many people get lost emotionally...you see a lady following the emotions derived from a film might easily find themselves pregnant...or involved in drugs etc. Similarly...people, in the past became reliant upon priests to air their burdens and finally Freud detected that a person can be emotionally governed by something long forgotten but is ever-present in the emotions of that person's today's world. So...praying to God, via Jesus Christ's accurate teaching is a bona fide way of sorting out our emotional problems..even deep-seated problems and as we lighten our emotional load our health is restored...and for those who have given it an honest try rather than a selfish, demanding trial, find that their energy levels increase to cope with those problems better and avoid them in the future, but, I'm afraid that condemning Jesus Christ won't help at all.

I am sorry Nick, but I can't say that lot was very interesting however I would find it interesting if you were to answer the question I'm doing my best to get you to answer, I have no idea what it is you seem to be afraid of but I would appreciate an answer to the question I've been trying to recieve from you as follows:

'Nick if you were to watch some of whatever your favourite sport happens to be with a group of friends, would you have a good chat about whatever sport it happened to be after it's finished or do you do a full length sermon about whatever the sport was'?

'You know a sermon as opposed to a good chat or visa versa'?

I look forward as an optimist that one day you will in fact give me a relevant answer to the actual question asked, as above?

Kind regards ippy

[Roses]

ippy/Littleroses...

ippy...

I'd like to tell you a little story ippy. It is based upon my work experiences where, though these took me all over the factory, centred on one particular area where one guy was highly excitable and easily wound-up. The rest of the guys obviously knew this and derived great pleasure from doing just that. Consequently, this guy, who had a very honest and hard working attitude would constantly be in turmoil. No one cared about the health implications...the safety implications...or even his home life implications. I did, because, even then, I was following Biblical insight and knew it was wrong...but how do you tackle such a problem when many in that factory department...a small factory within a factory...were tuned-in to the same practical joke. It's simple really...first of all you tell the guy he is being wound-up...tell him the truth...and calm the emotional despair he is feeling...Though Jesus Christ is at the root of that thinking...his name was never particularly mentioned. The consequences of telling such an excitable person that they are being wound-up is that he went to the wind-up merchants and tore a strip off them...but it is a small part of a much bigger picture...but, you see...I know when someone is trying to wind me up.

Littleroses...

If we itemise the different attributes that praying to Jesus delivers we can use man-made organizations to help explain them Littleroses...and I drew together three organizations that utilize the prayerful mechanism that Jesus introduced in his teaching...being...the RC church...The Samaritans...and the science brought into existence by Freud.   

It seems that if we follow our own desires many people get lost emotionally...you see a lady following the emotions derived from a film might easily find themselves pregnant...or involved in drugs etc. Similarly...people, in the past became reliant upon priests to air their burdens and finally Freud detected that a person can be emotionally governed by something long forgotten but is ever-present in the emotions of that person's today's world. So...praying to God, via Jesus Christ's accurate teaching is a bona fide way of sorting out our emotional problems..even deep-seated problems and as we lighten our emotional load our health is restored...and for those who have given it an honest try rather than a selfish, demanding trial, find that their energy levels increase to cope with those problems better and avoid them in the future, but, I'm afraid that condemning Jesus Christ won't help at all.

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Bunkum, as I said it didn't work for me. If Jesus couldn't come through for a child, either he didn't give a damn, or more likely died 2000 years and stayed dead.

[NicholasMarks]

ippy/Littleroses...

I think that the important thing we are establishing here is that we can all be wound-up and some people have made an art out of it. The advertisers rub their hands with glee if they get many people following their twisted messages...propaganda is designed to reinforce lies...businesses are run on that principle and of course political motivationalists use it to the max...but is it harmful?? The electric/spiritual laws of Jesus Christ say it is.

You see, even little children can be duped, and they seem to be the main target of many wind-up merchants today...the extreme being the emotional black-hole which breeds only distress and despair. So...whether you like my reasoning or not...it is induced by Biblical reasoning which states clearly that it is our nervous/electric/spiritual nature which should concern us most and one of its many attributes is resurrection, into a new vessel, for you and I...if we get it right...with everlasting life being our target...and a world full of health, happiness, good order and a wonderful leader...Jesus Christ.

[Roses]

ippy/Littleroses...

I think that the important thing we are establishing here is that we can all be wound-up and some people have made an art out of it. The advertisers rub their hands with glee if they get many people following their twisted messages...propaganda is designed to reinforce lies...businesses are run on that principle and of course political motivationalists use it to the max...but is it harmful?? The electric/spiritual laws of Jesus Christ say it is.

You see, even little children can be duped, and they seem to be the main target of many wind-up merchants today...the extreme being the emotional black-hole which breeds only distress and despair. So...whether you like my reasoning or not...it is induced by Biblical reasoning which states clearly that it is our nervous/electric/spiritual nature which should concern us most and one of its many attributes is resurrection, into a new vessel, for you and I...if we get it right...with everlasting life being our target...and a world full of health, happiness, good order and a wonderful leader...Jesus Christ.

If anyone is duped it is you. How on earth you manage to interpret the Bible in the way you do, goodness only knows. If you aren't a WUM and really do believe your fantasy world to be reality, you need help BIG TIME.

[Anchorman]

If anyone is duped it is you. How on earth you manage to interpret the Bible in the way you do, goodness only knows. If you aren't a WUM and really do believe your fantasy world to be reality, you need help BIG TIME.

Can I apologise on behalf of those of us who a re Christian?
You might not share our faith, floo - but you are entitled to a reasonable, weaffle free answer that actually means something in a theological context.
Pity you didn't get it.

[Roses]

Can I apologise on behalf of those of us who a re Christian?
You might not share our faith, floo - but you are entitled to a reasonable, weaffle free answer that actually means something in a theological context.
Pity you didn't get it.

No one is going to get a sensible answer from NM. I keep telling myself not to bother responding to his daft posts as there is no point. NM's garbage has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity, and shouldn't even be on the Christian topic board.  He belongs to a weird cult, of which he is the only member.

[Sebastian Toe]

ippy/Littleroses...

I think that the important thing we are establishing here is that we can all be wound-up and some people have made an art out of it. The advertisers rub their hands with glee if they get many people following their twisted messages...propaganda is designed to reinforce lies...

..just like the propaganda spouted on the internet and Youtube regarding so-called "wormwood" planets in the solar system or so-called "chemtrails" in the sky. All made-up lies, false news with not a shred of credible evidence.
Yet they are swallowed hook, line and sinker by gullible people with an inexplicable desperate need for them to be true.


Take your own advice Nick.....

......

but is it harmful?? The electric/spiritual laws of Jesus Christ say it is.

Wake up.

[ippy]

ippy/Littleroses...

I think that the important thing we are establishing here is that we can all be wound-up and some people have made an art out of it. The advertisers rub their hands with glee if they get many people following their twisted messages...propaganda is designed to reinforce lies...businesses are run on that principle and of course political motivationalists use it to the max...but is it harmful?? The electric/spiritual laws of Jesus Christ say it is.

You see, even little children can be duped, and they seem to be the main target of many wind-up merchants today...the extreme being the emotional black-hole which breeds only distress and despair. So...whether you like my reasoning or not...it is induced by Biblical reasoning which states clearly that it is our nervous/electric/spiritual nature which should concern us most and one of its many attributes is resurrection, into a new vessel, for you and I...if we get it right...with everlasting life being our target...and a world full of health, happiness, good order and a wonderful leader...Jesus Christ.

Again Nick:

'Nick if you were to watch some of whatever your favourite sport happens to be with a group of friends, would you have a good chat about whatever sport it happened to be after it's finished or do you do a full length sermon about whatever the sport was'?

'You know a sermon as opposed to a good chat or visa versa'?

I look forward as an optimist that one day you will in fact give me a relevant answer to the actual question asked, as above?

You somehow have got it into your mind Nick, that I'm attempting to wind you up, no not really I'd just like to hear something that sounds normal in one of your responses, I have to call them responses because they are not answers to anything I've ever asked you, how about a genuine answer to the actual question asked? Preferably something that sounds like a normal response from a normal person.

If you go into a shop to buy something surly you ask for whatever it is you want, you wouldn't expect any shop assistant to know what you want if you give them a sermon that bears no relation to whatever it was you went into the shop to buy?

Your responses to the question I'm trying to get you to answer are, putting it mildly, are extremely odd?

Kind regards ippy

[Stranger]

So...whether you like my reasoning or not...it is induced by Biblical reasoning...

What you post is neither reasoning nor biblical.

[Roses]

What you post is neither reasoning nor biblical.

Exactly. I reckon Jesus would be as gobsmacked as the rest of us if he was around today, and came across NM's interpretation of what he is supposed to have said.

[NicholasMarks]

Littleroses/ippy/Stranger/Anchorman/Seb...

What I have actually done is brought alive the full meaning and implications behind God's teaching in Isaiah...Look into the heavens, who put them all there, with the superabundance of his mighty power/dynamic energy. Not one is missing but everyone is named, numbered and catalogued. This wonderful energy isn't just owned by God...it is God, by virtue of some very special righteous laws...which Jesus made flesh, and every aspect of his teaching reveals this for our health and welfare. We ignore Jesus at our peril.

[Roses]

Littleroses/ippy/Stranger/Anchorman/Seb...

What I have actually done is brought alive the full meaning and implications behind God's teaching in Isaiah...Look into the heavens, who put them all there, with the superabundance of his mighty power/dynamic energy. Not when is missing but everyone is named, numbered and catalogued. This wonderful energy isn't just owned by God...it is God, by virtue of some very special righteous laws...which Jesus made flesh, and every aspect of his teaching reveals this for our health and welfare. We ignore Jesus at our peril.

Stop telling porkies, all you have done is spout your nonsensical drivel.