New UKIP leader

[Jack Knave]

was Stephen Woolfe suffering from this too in your 'expert' opinion?

He seemed to be. I think it is all due to the pressure that the issue that was binding the UKIPpers together is fading away. They were seeing the various factions within it coming out in force and seeing that their position/jobs in UKIP slipping away. This would have been obvious to many before this but now the swords are drawn and some have only daggers.

[Nearly Sane]

He seemed to be. I think it is all due to the pressure that the issue that was binding the UKIPpers together is fading away. They were seeing the various factions within it coming out in force and seeing that their position/jobs in UKIP slipping away. This would have been obvious to many before this but now the swords are drawn and some have only daggers.

So surely then the problem is with the party and in that sense it is sensible to get out?

[Jack Knave]

So surely then the problem is with the party and in that sense it is sensible to get out?

But they fell apart, they didn't keep their composure and integrity. That is what my comment of 'weird' was addressing. If they had been clear headed then they would have seen that they needed to leave and just go. Instead, one became leader! first and the other got into a fight or collapsed from mental fatigue after a confrontation.

[Nearly Sane]

But they fell apart, they didn't keep their composure and integrity. That is what my comment of 'weird' was addressing. If they had been clear headed then they would have seen that they needed to leave and just go. Instead, one became leader! first and the other got into a fight or collapsed from mental fatigue after a confrontation.

But if the party is this dysfunctional that people fall apart then it's the problem. If you are continually trying to avoid daggers, it is sensible to leave.

[Nearly Sane]

And I note that of the 40 different UKIP MEPs since 1999, 13 have either been suspended or resigned.

[Jack Knave]

But if the party is this dysfunctional that people fall apart then it's the problem. If you are continually trying to avoid daggers, it is sensible to leave.

But they must have known this long before they eventually left, so why did they stay to the point that they engaged in 'weird' mentally dysfunctional activities. It is as if they didn't see the warning signs and this is often due to some mental blockage or blind spot due to a weak or flawed character trait. A kid of fit or neurotic tantrum that are unconsciously motivated.

[Nearly Sane]

But they must have known this long before they eventually left, so why did they stay to the point that they engaged in 'weird' mentally dysfunctional activities. It is as if they didn't see the warning signs and this is often due to some mental blockage or blind spot due to a weak or flawed character trait. A kid of fit or neurotic tantrum that are unconsciously motivated.

It is good to have the 'expert' advice from such a 'experienced' mental health professional on here.

[Jack Knave]

It is good to have the 'expert' advice from such a 'experienced' mental health professional on here.

Well, trying to explain these things to a layperson isn't easy, who wouldn't know an expert even if they saw one.

[Nearly Sane]

Well, trying to explain these things to a layperson isn't easy, who wouldn't know an expert even if they saw one.

You do know that attempts at patronising are only successful from a position of strength?

[Brownie]

But they must have known this long before they eventually left, so why did they stay to the point that they engaged in 'weird' mentally dysfunctional activities. It is as if they didn't see the warning signs and this is often due to some mental blockage or blind spot due to a weak or flawed character trait. A kid of fit or neurotic tantrum that are unconsciously motivated.

It is far more likely that they felt sufficiently buoyed up to believe they could effectively do the job and then found there was more to it than anticipated.  Imagine how demoralising that must be, especially surrounded by 'colleagues' who have even less of a clue, little integrity and give zilch support.

[jeremyp]

It is far more likely that they felt sufficiently buoyed up to believe they could effectively do the job and then found there was more to it than anticipated.  Imagine how demoralising that must be, especially surrounded by 'colleagues' who have even less of a clue, little integrity and give zilch support.

If we are talking about Diane James, I would suggest that she found out, when she became leader, that the people she had to work with had no intention of respecting her authority as leader and therefore she couldn't do her job. It must have left a very bitter taste in her mouth and leaving the party became inevitable.

[Brownie]

Definitely.
What a shower.

[Jack Knave]

You do know that attempts at patronising are only successful from a position of strength?

Then I accept my success in this argument!!! 

[Nearly Sane]

Then I accept my success in this argument!!! 

I believe 1/20 are able to auto fellate.  Enjoy the warm salty goodness!

[Jack Knave]

It is far more likely that they felt sufficiently buoyed up to believe they could effectively do the job and then found there was more to it than anticipated.  Imagine how demoralising that must be, especially surrounded by 'colleagues' who have even less of a clue, little integrity and give zilch support.

If they were in a position to run for the leadership and be strong contenders then they would have been at the core of UKIP for some time and would be well aware of the tensions and acrimonious power plays going on inside said party. So for them to be naïve enough to not be able to see this or to put it another way be in a state of denial (which is a form of neurosis) just shows what their psychological state is/was - especially applicable to James, who was leader for 18 days and left UKIP not long afterwards. They both showed signs of shock which is a phenomena of not being inwardly in control of oneself.

[Jack Knave]

I believe 1/20 are able to auto fellate.  Enjoy the warm salty goodness!

Considering the context that is an irrelevant and irrational outburst. But I do wonder why you know that fact. Did you have some need to investigate such matters? 

[Nearly Sane]

Considering the context that is an irrelevant and irrational outburst. But I do wonder why you know that fact. Did you have some need to investigate such matters? 

Apart from loving the sound of breaking glass, it appeared in the book Boys and Sex by Wardell B Pomeroy given to me by my parents to avoid the 'conversation'. At the time of reading at the age of 10 didn't really understand, so did a bit of further reading. Not surprisingly the number stuck in my mind.

Anyway how's the patting yourself on the back going?
Next link NSFW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsnNHAZ3HWc

[Walter]

Apart from loving the sound of breaking glass, it appeared in the book Boys and Sex by Wardell B Pomeroy given to me by my parents to avoid the 'conversation'. At the time of reading at the age of 10 didn't really understand, so did a bit of further reading. Not surprisingly the number stuck in my mind.

Anyway how's the patting yourself on the back going?

Did anything stick in your mouth?

[Nearly Sane]

Did anything stick in your mouth?

Soor plooms

[Brownie]

Totally gobsmacking!

[Nearly Sane]

Totally gobsmacking!

I would put that in the Forum's Best bits but outside context it would mean nothing. Have a soor ploom!

[Jack Knave]

Apart from loving the sound of breaking glass, it appeared in the book Boys and Sex by Wardell B Pomeroy given to me by my parents to avoid the 'conversation'. At the time of reading at the age of 10 didn't really understand, so did a bit of further reading. Not surprisingly the number stuck in my mind.

Anyway how's the patting yourself on the back going?
Next link NSFW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsnNHAZ3HWc

It was my school that told me about the birds and the bees, but in more stark colourful language. Your school wasn't so progressive?, though 10 years of age seemed a little premature for such adult material.

[Brownie]

I would put that in the Forum's Best bits but outside context it would mean nothing. Have a soor ploom!

A rambutan would be more appropriate.

[Nearly Sane]

Heereeerrrrrre's Paul...

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/11/28/the-extreme-right-wing-views-of-new-ukip-leader-paul-nuttall

[floo]

He would gave got on well with Hitler!