God is a Spirit

[NicholasMarks]

God is a Spirit and all that worship him must do so in spirit and in truth…(John 4:24)

Doesn’t really make too much sense, does it?? Until we realise that Jesus was also a righteous spirit and he certainly wasn’t going to waste his spiritual nature and so we can learn from him how we can retain this spiritual force within ourselves as well.

By upbuilding our spirit via righteousness means that we are obeying Jesus. We are sticking to truth and honesty, respect for others, and not stealing what belongs to our neighbours…then…providing we get it right…we too will enjoy what Jesus enjoyed.

He was adamant…righteous behaviour delivers resurrection ((those that follow me (Jesus) will never die)) and this will lead us to everlasting life. No need for a difficult, hard to understand science…just faith in the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ…even though there must be a science behind his teaching…because that’s how Almighty God’s universe works.

[torridon]

I'm not even sure what a 'spirit' is

[bluehillside Retd.]

Shouldn't this be in the faith sharing section?

[NicholasMarks]

I'm not even sure what a 'spirit' is

I can only describe it in the way I understand it and this is yielded from the Holy Bible.

It is the part of us that, though invisible, is a product of the spiritual nature of the universe. I would go as far as to say that every expression is fired by our nervous/spiritual nature and so...as hysterical behaviour proves...we can waste it wildly.

Our inner nervous/spiritual nature must come from somewhere. Some is delivered by chemical interactions but Jesus, who speaks on behalf of Almighty God, tells us that we can earn it by righteous good behaviour.

If we say that it is part of the nervous/electric behaviour of the replicating living cell then we can see that it is a spiritual representation of our own being and...it seems...if we talk to Jesus Christ's word...it can be the force behind resurrection, behind everlasting life...and the force behind genetic repair in this life. We just have to believe those who love us.

[Maeght]

God is a Spirit and all that worship him must do so in spirit and in truth…(John 4:24)

Doesn’t really make too much sense, does it?? Until we realise that Jesus was also a righteous spirit and he certainly wasn’t going to waste his spiritual nature and so we can learn from him how we can retain this spiritual force within ourselves as well.

By upbuilding our spirit via righteousness means that we are obeying Jesus. We are sticking to truth and honesty, respect for others, and not stealing what belongs to our neighbours…then…providing we get it right…we too will enjoy what Jesus enjoyed.

He was adamant…righteous behaviour delivers resurrection ((those that follow me (Jesus) will never die)) and this will lead us to everlasting life. No need for a difficult, hard to understand science…just faith in the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ…even though there must be a science behind his teaching…because that’s how Almighty God’s universe works.

Still doesn't make much sense.

[NicholasMarks]

Still doesn't make much sense.

That's because you don't read your Holy Bible, Maeght. In there, Jesus tells us of the importance of our spirit to us by showing us the importance of his spirit to him.

Of course it's of no importance what-so-ever if our greatest ambition is just swinging around the universe in a fiery lake of sulphur forever more...but that is a decision only you can make.

[Maeght]

That's because you don't read your Holy Bible, Maeght.

Its not mine. And no I don't as it makes no sense to me. An interesting social history document maybe but otherwise of no interest to me.

In there, Jesus tells us of the importance of our spirit to us by showing us the importance of his spirit to him.

That's nice.

Of course it's of no importance what-so-ever if our greatest ambition is just swinging around the universe in a fiery lake of sulphur forever more...but that is a decision only you can make.

A choice regarding something in which I have no belief .... not really a choice of course.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Sparky,

That's because you don't read your Holy Bible, Maeght. In there, Jesus tells us of the importance of our spirit to us by showing us the importance of his spirit to him.

Of course it's of no importance what-so-ever if our greatest ambition is just swinging around the universe in a fiery lake of sulphur forever more...but that is a decision only you can make.

Thank you for sharing your personal faith about these claims.

[Nearly Sane]

Shouldn't this be in the faith sharing section?

Surely would fit better in science topic?

[bluehillside Retd.]

NS,

Surely would fit better in science topic?

Very droll I'm sure. I'm surprised Sparky doesn't insist on it. 

[NicholasMarks]

Surely would fit better in science topic?

Everything I write revolves around Jesus Christ, Nearly Sane...but scientists don't like to be reminded of him.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Sparky,

Everything I write revolves around Jesus Christ, Nearly Sane...but scientists don't like to be reminded of him.

Provided no-one corrupts the term "science" by claiming that Bible stories are scientific I think you'll find that for the most part "scientists" are indifferent to being "reminded of him".

[Hope]

God is a Spirit and all that worship him must do so in spirit and in truth…(John 4:24)

Doesn’t really make too much sense, does it??

Except that John 4:24 doesn't say that God is 'a Spirit', Sparks.  Rather it says 'πνεῦμα ὁ θεός' - 'God is Spirit'.  In other words, John is describing the nature of God, not his identity.

[NicholasMarks]

Except that John 4:24 doesn't say that God is 'a Spirit', Sparks.  Rather it says 'πνεῦμα ὁ θεός' - 'God is Spirit'.  In other words, John is describing the nature of God, not his identity.

Without checking your accuracy Hope, and off the top of my head, I would say that what you say and what I say are both the same thing. You see...if you allow this thread  to develop you will find that Almighty God is the omnipotent, spiritual  being of all the energy that created the universe. His mighty stance is as the living voice of all that force whilst also being made in our image.

So...we have good reason to follow his and Jesus' accurate word rather than pick up on minor detail...Now...I read that in the Holy Bible somewhere.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Sparky,

Without checking your accuracy Hope, and off the top of my head, I would say that what you say and what I say are both the same thing. You see...if you allow this thread  to develop you will find that Almighty God is the omnipotent, spiritual  being of all the energy that created the universe. His mighty stance is as the living voice of all that force whilst also being made in our image.

No, what he'll find is that you will assert all these things to be the case - a very different matter.

[Hope]

Without checking your accuracy Hope, and off the top of my head, I would say that what you say and what I say are both the same thing.

If I say that 'you are human', Nick, I am saying something different to if I said 'You are a human'.   There is no indefinite article present in the Greek.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Hope,

If I say that 'you are human', Nick, I am saying something different to if I said 'You are a human'.   There is no indefinite article present in the Greek.

I went to a Greek restaurant the other night for dinner. The waiter was only four feet six tall so he wore built up shoes. The food was terrible.

Still I should have known better I guess from the old saying...

..."Beware of Greeks wearing lifts."

I'll get me jacket.

[NicholasMarks]

If I say that 'you are human', Nick, I am saying something different to if I said 'You are a human'.   There is no indefinite article present in the Greek.

I think you missed the point of my response to yours Hope. If you read the Holy Bible with an honest and open mind...just as it is intended to be read, you get a feel for the message that you are reading, and all are sponsored by righteousness.

God is a Spirit and is Spirit. He is a spirit because he is a solid spiritual being as Jesus became after he ascended and he is also a living limb of the energy that makes stars and atoms. He is this omnipotent being because he broke the hidden code of nature and started a new beginning...In other words he is the alpha and the omega...the beginning and the end...and it is  his righteous word (remember...in the beginning was the word) that is important not an intellectual discussion over grammar.

 

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Sparky,

Provided no-one corrupts the term "science" by claiming that Bible stories are scientific I think you'll find that for the most part "scientists" are indifferent to being "reminded of him".

But then scientists can be indifferent to things can't they Bluebottle.
Robert Oppenheimer was pretty indifferent to the disintegration of thousands and Edvard Teller similarly was indifferent to the destructive power of the H Bomb.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlad,

But then scientists can be indifferent to things can't they Bluebottle.
Robert Oppenheimer was pretty indifferent to the disintegration of thousands and Edvard Teller similarly was indifferent to the destructive power of the H Bomb.

Citations?

Relevance?

[NicholasMarks]

Sparky,

Provided no-one corrupts the term "science" by claiming that Bible stories are scientific I think you'll find that for the most part "scientists" are indifferent to being "reminded of him".

That's not the impression Dawkin, offers, or, indeed, those that follow him. They want to smash the word of righteousness out of existence...but they can't get round one single simple scientific fact...a bit like Wormwood...The evidence is becoming more and more obvious every day...That the universe is made from an invisible, indestructible, superabundant, dynamic energy that has always been and always will be.

All science stems from it but only Almighty God, and his son Jesus Christ, offer us any explanation about it.

[Hope]

I think you missed the point of my response to yours Hope. If you read the Holy Bible with an honest and open mind...just as it is intended to be read, you get a feel for the message that you are reading, and all are sponsored by righteousness.

Whilst I'd put it all in rather plainer English, Nick, I have to agree with you to a large part.  However, because I read the material in the way you outline, I find it necessary to question your rather tortuous, perhaps even tortured reading of it.

[NicholasMarks]

Whilst I'd put it all in rather plainer English, Nick, I have to agree with you to a large part.  However, because I read the material in the way you outline, I find it necessary to question your rather tortuous, perhaps even tortured reading of it.

It's all leading to the simple single scientific point that Almighty God is the highest scientist this universe has ever seen or will ever see again...and with his apprentice, Jesus Christ, we have a formidable team who can do everything they say they can do...including, judge everyone for their sins...living or dead...or repentant...The choice is ours.

[Sassy]

God is a Spirit and all that worship him must do so in spirit and in truth…(John 4:24)

Doesn’t really make too much sense, does it?? Until we realise that Jesus was also a righteous spirit and he certainly wasn’t going to waste his spiritual nature and so we can learn from him how we can retain this spiritual force within ourselves as well.

By upbuilding our spirit via righteousness means that we are obeying Jesus. We are sticking to truth and honesty, respect for others, and not stealing what belongs to our neighbours…then…providing we get it right…we too will enjoy what Jesus enjoyed.

He was adamant…righteous behaviour delivers resurrection ((those that follow me (Jesus) will never die)) and this will lead us to everlasting life. No need for a difficult, hard to understand science…just faith in the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ…even though there must be a science behind his teaching…because that’s how Almighty God’s universe works.

God is a Spirit and all that worship him must do so in spirit and in truth…(John 4:24)


Makes perfect sense.

I baptise with water but he comes after me, is greater than I, and he shall baptise with the Holy Spirit.

The words in action:-

35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)

37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;

38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:

40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;

41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.

42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.


It is in believing the truth about Jesus Christ that people receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit. So those who believe the truth and are baptised in the Spirit worship in truth and Spirit.
King James Version
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

The only way to live in Spirit and Truth is through Christ.

John 16:13. so worshipping in Spirit and Truth comes through the acceptance of Christ and the baptism of the Spirit.

[NicholasMarks]

God is a Spirit and all that worship him must do so in spirit and in truth…(John 4:24)


Makes perfect sense.

I baptise with water but he comes after me, is greater than I, and he shall baptise with the Holy Spirit.

The words in action:-

35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)

37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;

38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:

40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;

41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.

42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.


It is in believing the truth about Jesus Christ that people receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit. So those who believe the truth and are baptised in the Spirit worship in truth and Spirit.
King James Version
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

The only way to live in Spirit and Truth is through Christ.

John 16:13. so worshipping in Spirit and Truth comes through the acceptance of Christ and the baptism of the Spirit.

A heart warming and refreshing change from my normal respondee. Thanks for that Sassy.