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Jack Knave

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Re: Sour Grapes All Round!
« Reply #150 on: October 15, 2016, 06:56:43 PM »
I can and I do - but nice obfuscation - once again avoiding answering the question as to whether the EU has ever over-riddent a member state veto on an issue where all member states must agree.
Your assessment of my post was all wrong.

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Re: Sour Grapes All Round!
« Reply #151 on: October 15, 2016, 08:40:59 PM »
Your assessment of my post was all wrong.
On the contrary I think I have got the last few posts spot - effectively an attempt to avoid answering a straight question with obfuscation.

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Re: Sour Grapes All Round!
« Reply #152 on: October 17, 2016, 05:27:19 PM »
On the contrary I think I have got the last few posts spot - effectively an attempt to avoid answering a straight question with obfuscation.
I have answered it and demolished your straw man. Like the Remoaners you just can't accept defeat.

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« Reply #153 on: October 17, 2016, 06:11:06 PM »
On the contrary I think I have got the last few posts spot - effectively an attempt to avoid answering a straight question with obfuscation.
I think the problem is that whilst some Remain predictions haven't been glaringly obvious in their occurrence, there have been a number that have jumped out of the media morass and have highlighted the fact that some Leave predictions were questionable.
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Re: Sour Grapes All Round!
« Reply #154 on: October 17, 2016, 08:17:50 PM »
I have answered it and demolished your straw man. Like the Remoaners you just can't accept defeat.

Why is it that the best the Brexiters have is to claim that the Remainers are moaners or are trying to bring down the country?

Could it be that their leaders promises turned out to be empty and their plans turned out to be fictional? Yes, I think it could.
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Re: Sour Grapes All Round!
« Reply #155 on: October 17, 2016, 08:25:44 PM »
I have answered it and demolished your straw man. Like the Remoaners you just can't accept defeat.
Nope you never answered it.

I asked for an example of a situation where the EU over-ruled a veto by a member state on an issue where all member states must agree.

There has been no answer from you - just avoidance tactics, obfuscation and a complete failure to answer my question.

And by the way I never posited a straw man, so how you might have destroyed said no-existent straw man is rather perplexing.

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Re: Sour Grapes All Round!
« Reply #156 on: October 18, 2016, 07:40:10 PM »
Nope you never answered it.

I asked for an example of a situation where the EU over-ruled a veto by a member state on an issue where all member states must agree.

There has been no answer from you - just avoidance tactics, obfuscation and a complete failure to answer my question.

And by the way I never posited a straw man, so how you might have destroyed said no-existent straw man is rather perplexing.
That whole post is a straw man. If you can't understand plain English that's not my fault.

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« Reply #157 on: October 18, 2016, 07:57:36 PM »
That whole post is a straw man. If you can't understand plain English that's not my fault.
Do you understand what"straw man" means?

Asking a question of you to make you justify your claim is not constructing a straw man.
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« Reply #158 on: October 18, 2016, 10:22:01 PM »
That whole post is a straw man. If you can't understand plain English that's not my fault.
I think that the main proponent of straw men on this thread, from OP to the post before this, is you, Jack.  You are also the most efficient non-answerer of questions on the board.
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Re: Sour Grapes All Round!
« Reply #159 on: October 19, 2016, 05:17:03 PM »
Do you understand what"straw man" means?

Asking a question of you to make you justify your claim is not constructing a straw man.
But misrepresenting what I said and then constructing a question round that is.

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Re: Sour Grapes All Round!
« Reply #160 on: October 19, 2016, 05:20:50 PM »
I think that the main proponent of straw men on this thread, from OP to the post before this, is you, Jack.  You are also the most efficient non-answerer of questions on the board.
And when was this vote taken? I must have missed the memo, or are you all ganging up on me?  :(

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Re: Sour Grapes All Round!
« Reply #161 on: October 19, 2016, 08:04:43 PM »
But misrepresenting what I said and then constructing a question round that is.
Nobody misrepresented what you said. You said that the EU would take away our rebate which is an action that would require them to somehow overrule the inevitable British veto. It was pointed out to you that this was not possible but you persist in saying it is and you can't justify your claim.
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Re: Sour Grapes All Round!
« Reply #162 on: October 19, 2016, 08:17:43 PM »
Nobody misrepresented what you said. You said that the EU would take away our rebate which is an action that would require them to somehow overrule the inevitable British veto. It was pointed out to you that this was not possible but you persist in saying it is and you can't justify your claim.
Nothing is impossible, not for the EU when it comes to getting round their own rules.