The Lost Tribes of Humanity.

[Gordon]

Horizon, BBC2 tonight at 9pm.

Alice Roberts on the use of genetics in the study of human origins - probably worth a watch.

[Udayana]

I thought it was pretty good. Horizon seems to be slowly clawing it's way back to being watchable.

Really interesting that they are trying to identify introgression (when genes are reintroduced into the pool from a previously separated group) just from examining modern human DNA sequences, without fossil evidence.

[Anchorman]

Agreed on both points. I'm pretty chuffed that Horizon is seemingly quitting the dumbed-down presentation which made it unwatchable - wheras in the seventies and eighties, it was virtually unmissable.

[Gordon]

I thought it was pretty good. Horizon seems to be slowly clawing it's way back to being watchable.

Really interesting that they are trying to identify introgression (when genes are reintroduced into the pool from a previously separated group) just from examining modern human DNA sequences, without fossil evidence.

That was the point that I found most interesting too.

Bearing mind the timescales involved it makes you wonder how those who go for the 6,000 year old Earth or literal Adam & Eve stuff maintain their stance when it seems likely that many of us have a splash of other long-extinct human species in our DNA.

Tempted to check the cost of having the DNA test done myself to see just how much of a neanderthal I really am!

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Tempted to check the cost of having the DNA test done myself to see just how much of a neanderthal I really am!

Ha Ha

[Enki]

I thought it was pretty good. Horizon seems to be slowly clawing it's way back to being watchable.

Really interesting that they are trying to identify introgression (when genes are reintroduced into the pool from a previously separated group) just from examining modern human DNA sequences, without fossil evidence.

Yes, I found it interesting. Although the focus was on comparatively recent times, considerable work has also been done which seems to show that there were at least four other species of  hominins around at the same time as afarensis(Lucy). Did they too interract with each other?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-32906836

[floo]

Horizon, BBC2 tonight at 9pm.

Alice Roberts on the use of genetics in the study of human origins - probably worth a watch.

We must watch it on the iplayer, if you think it is worth it. We had given up on Horizon as the programme seemed to have lost its way.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

programme was quite enjoyable but missed out Adam and Eve and the Aquatic apeman or as we should refer to him since this was a science programme, Homo clubeighteentothirtyensis.

[Sebastian Toe]

programme was quite enjoyable but missed out Adam and Eve and the Aquatic apeman or as we should refer to him since this was a science programme, Homo clubeighteentothirtyensis.

They also missed out Homo strawturdensis. One example is still believe to be living somewhere in England. 

[Walt Zingmatilder]

They also missed out Homo strawturdensis. One example is still believe to be living somewhere in England. 

Living? I would call it more like existing.........,

[Walt Zingmatilder]

They also missed out Homo strawturdensis. One example is still believe to be living somewhere in England. 

Any relation to Recyclesoldjokesapithicus?

[Sebastian Toe]

Any relation to Recyclesoldjokesapithicus?

theold ones are the best....

[floo]

That was the point that I found most interesting too.

Bearing mind the timescales involved it makes you wonder how those who go for the 6,000 year old Earth or literal Adam & Eve stuff maintain their stance when it seems likely that many of us have a splash of other long-extinct human species in our DNA.

Tempted to check the cost of having the DNA test done myself to see just how much of a neanderthal I really am!

We watched it last night, on your recommendation, and found it very interesting. But did find it irritating that the woman presenter drew her timelines on the window, but seemed to have difficulty doing so!

As for Neanderthal DNA, I reckon some have more than others, like that guy Trump, 99.9%  in his case! I think the usual DNA tests for paternity are in the region of £600, but I could be wrong.

[Gordon]

We watched it last night, on your recommendation, and found it very interesting. But did find it irritating that the woman presenter drew her timelines on the window, but seemed to have difficulty doing so!

As for Neanderthal DNA, I reckon some have more than others, like that guy Trump, 99.9%  in his case! I think the usual DNA tests for paternity are in the region of £600, but I could be wrong.

This is perhaps the best known provider of DNA testing - £149.

https://www.23andme.com/en-gb/

[Anchorman]

We watched it last night, on your recommendation, and found it very interesting. But did find it irritating that the woman presenter drew her timelines on the window, but seemed to have difficulty doing so!

As for Neanderthal DNA, I reckon some have more than others, like that guy Trump, 99.9%  in his case! I think the usual DNA tests for paternity are in the region of £600, but I could be wrong.

Floo;
You do know that Neanderthals had a similar - or even larger - cranium than homo sapiens at that time, used a multitude of tools, were culturally aware and may even have produced votive or symbolic 'art'?
Wheras the 'Tangerine nightmare'......er.......

[Harrowby Hall]

As for Neanderthal DNA, I reckon some have more than others, like that guy Trump, 99.9%  in his case!

If I were a Neanderthal, I would find that that very insulting!

[floo]

If I were a Neanderthal, I would find that that very insulting!

Oh dear you are right, I offer my abject apologies to all Neanderthals, for insulting them so badly!

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This is perhaps the best known provider of DNA testing - £149.

https://www.23andme.com/en-gb/

It is good. I've used it mostly to know more about my father's side of the family.