The New Covenant...Jeremiah 31:31-34

[Khatru]

It is offered and people have to accept it.

So we don't have free will then?

[BeRational]

So we don't have free will then?

A bit like a mafia boss. It's an offer you cannot refuse!

[Sassy]

So we don't have free will then?

Is everyone automatically saved because Christ died?  So free will not something you understand duly noted and duly served.

Because you have the free will to choose to believe in Christ or not to be believe. Which did you choose?

Whoever said:-" ignorance was bliss"... should really have used the phrase ... "there is none so blind as those who just simply refuse to see."

So you chose not to believe in Christ and there we have proof free will alive and well.

[Sassy]

A bit like a mafia boss. It's an offer you cannot refuse!

So why then did you refuse it?  Seems like your having to eat your own words...

[BeRational]

So why then did you refuse it?  Seems like your having to eat your own words...

I have not had the offer yet, I have just heard from people that say they have.

[Khatru]

A bit like a mafia boss. It's an offer you cannot refuse!

How very true! 

[Khatru]

Is everyone automatically saved because Christ died?  So free will not something you understand duly noted and duly served.

Because you have the free will to choose to believe in Christ or not to be believe. Which did you choose?

Whoever said:-" ignorance was bliss"... should really have used the phrase ... "there is none so blind as those who just simply refuse to see."

So you chose not to believe in Christ and there we have proof free will alive and well.

Except that you said we have to accept it.  You should have said we don't have to accept it.

[Sassy]

Except that you said we have to accept it.  You should have said we don't have to accept it.

No! it stands. You have to accept it to be saved. It does not say you get no choice it does not say mandatory...
YOU have to accept it, so you have to choose it.

[jeremyp]

Anyone can make a perfect covenant, but if the party they make the covenant with then abuse it, that's that party's look out - not that of the creator.

So what you're saying is that it wasn't a faulty covenant but faulty human beings. Who made the faulty humans?

[Sassy]

So what you're saying is that it wasn't a faulty covenant but faulty human beings. Who made the faulty humans?

If God told the end from the beginning what exactly is it you don't understand about it being the way?

[Khatru]

No! it stands. You have to accept it to be saved. It does not say you get no choice it does not say mandatory...
YOU have to accept it, so you have to choose it.

The very fact that you say I am forced to make a choice stands as testament to the absence of free will.

Of course the reality is that I have no choice to make because nothing has been offered to me.

[jeremyp]

If God told the end from the beginning what exactly is it you don't understand about it being the way?

Could you please write something coherent.

[Sebastian Toe]

Could you please write something coherent.

Why ask her to break the habit of a lifetime? 

[Sassy]

Quote from: Sassy on October 21, 2016, 02:57:44 AM
If God told the end from the beginning what exactly is it you don't understand about it being the way?

Could you please write something coherent.

Your ignorance abounds it knows no limits.  You should quit talking about things you have no knowledge about.
My post is perfectly coherent to those who know the bible; it is your knowledge which is lacking,.


King James Bible
Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: