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floo

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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #50 on: October 30, 2016, 10:25:59 AM »
Floo.....we all have a large intellectual capacity to entertain ideas and not committing to them. I'm afraid antitheists and atheists around here are afraid to entertain ideas for fear of getting drawn in and having to make a commitment. In fact when it comes down to it you come across as guys and gals who are frightened that a bit of alternative contemplation will mean and end to a nice mornings hoovering or a trip to the end of the road to get a paper.

I have entertained the idea of a god and the unpleasant 'born again' dogma as a young person. As soon as I realised it wasn't credible, I lost my faith and don't miss it one bit.

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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #51 on: October 30, 2016, 10:34:57 AM »
I have entertained the idea of a god and the unpleasant 'born again' dogma as a young person. As soon as I realised it wasn't credible, I lost my faith and don't miss it one bit.
So with you then it is a question of not believing the unpleasant.
Of course you miss it...That's why you're on multiple religious forums.

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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #52 on: October 30, 2016, 11:38:56 AM »
So with you then it is a question of not believing the unpleasant.
Of course you miss it...That's why you're on multiple religious forums.

I don't miss it in my life, but I challenge that dogma because I know how abusive it can be. I only post on one other religious forum at present.

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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #53 on: October 30, 2016, 11:45:36 AM »
Sassy

I presume you are not a fool, so why do you believe all this nonsense.

It matters not whether I am looked upon as a fool.  But if you believe I am not a fool, surely that would tell you that what I believe has some substance regarding truth which I have found.
Surely, truth is what we all seek but maybe our motives are different for our want of truth.
We know we have to work together to abolish war and terrorism to create a compassionate  world in which Justice and peace prevail. Love ;D   Einstein
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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #54 on: October 30, 2016, 11:54:23 AM »
Floo.....we all have a large intellectual capacity to entertain ideas and not committing to them. I'm afraid antitheists and atheists around here are afraid to entertain ideas for fear of getting drawn in and having to make a commitment. In fact when it comes down to it you come across as guys and gals who are frightened that a bit of alternative contemplation will mean and end to a nice mornings hoovering or a trip to the end of the road to get a paper.

Floo,s beliefs are based on her emotional upbringing and not any intellectual reasoning about the Bible the true standing of Gods power and authority.  Authority is something Floo cannot understand when it comes to God, Christ and the love which God showed by not destroying Adam and Eve in their fallen state. A state where Satan was allowed to take over and cause all the things Floo hates and where God had to respond to save mankind.

Satan attacks the people he rules because he is between a rock and a hard place he cannot change.  He hurts the very humans he has brought under his ways of pain and suffering. Knowing he now has been judged and no way back to God. He is determined to take those people into that suffering with him for eternity. All his evil which God brings a way out from is blamed on God. Another of his subtle lies to mankind.

Floo is under that trap and cannot come out because of her pride. It will take something big to bring her out. 

We know we have to work together to abolish war and terrorism to create a compassionate  world in which Justice and peace prevail. Love ;D   Einstein
 "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #55 on: October 30, 2016, 12:36:42 PM »
Sassy

do you write tales of the supernatural as a hobby and try them out on this board to see what reactions you can get.

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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #56 on: October 30, 2016, 01:00:05 PM »
Sassy

do you write tales of the supernatural as a hobby and try them out on this board to see what reactions you can get.

Is fiction your bag? Or do you just like telling fictional stories and asking fictional questions?
I guess that it is a ghostly tale for you but for us it is more of a spiritual nature.
Our truth being given by the real God and yours being the fictional longing left unfulfilled by myths.  :)
We know we have to work together to abolish war and terrorism to create a compassionate  world in which Justice and peace prevail. Love ;D   Einstein
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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #57 on: October 30, 2016, 01:16:50 PM »
If only you could provide the evidence, or your god himself, then this board would become redundant .BUT IT NEVER HAPPENS.
And the smiley face at the end does not conceal your venom.

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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #58 on: October 30, 2016, 01:41:30 PM »
Floo,s beliefs are based on her emotional upbringing and not any intellectual reasoning about the Bible the true standing of Gods power and authority.  Authority is something Floo cannot understand when it comes to God, Christ and the love which God showed by not destroying Adam and Eve in their fallen state. A state where Satan was allowed to take over and cause all the things Floo hates and where God had to respond to save mankind.

Satan attacks the people he rules because he is between a rock and a hard place he cannot change.  He hurts the very humans he has brought under his ways of pain and suffering. Knowing he now has been judged and no way back to God. He is determined to take those people into that suffering with him for eternity. All his evil which God brings a way out from is blamed on God. Another of his subtle lies to mankind.

Floo is under that trap and cannot come out because of her pride. It will take something big to bring her out.

Thanks for the giggle Sass, and of course your take on the Bible is intellectual reasoning! ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #59 on: October 30, 2016, 03:14:07 PM »
She gets a 10 from me.

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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #60 on: October 30, 2016, 03:14:20 PM »
Floo,s beliefs are based on her emotional upbringing and not any intellectual reasoning about the Bible the true standing of Gods power and authority.  Authority is something Floo cannot understand when it comes to God, Christ and the love which God showed by not destroying Adam and Eve in their fallen state. A state where Satan was allowed to take over and cause all the things Floo hates and where God had to respond to save mankind.

Satan attacks the people he rules because he is between a rock and a hard place he cannot change.  He hurts the very humans he has brought under his ways of pain and suffering. Knowing he now has been judged and no way back to God. He is determined to take those people into that suffering with him for eternity. All his evil which God brings a way out from is blamed on God. Another of his subtle lies to mankind.

Floo is under that trap and cannot come out because of her pride. It will take something big to bring her out.

My reading of Floo's posts is that she has had more than enough of authority of God forced on her by people who accepted all sorts of things based on the bible and Gods authority.

I don't think it's about pride.

I think it's about breaking free from an authoritarian mind set, that was inflicted on her from a young age.

I think Floo probably employed intellectual reasoning to escape that way of thinking, and probably the damage that had been inflicted on her.


Somewhere, she still sounds a bit angry at that.

Sassy, it sounds to me as if the Christianity Floo has encountered in the past didn't have a lot of love in it.

Lots of stuff about Gods authority, but not much love.

The only thing that is going to bring Floo out, is love and patience.

Love, as in respect, patience and caring for another human being, regardless of what they believe.


It probably isn't pride that motivates Floo, but the fact she recognised how false that Christianity and love  she encountered in the past was.

She probably sees many "traps" in Christianity where so called Christians don't know what love really means.

I don't think, she has any intention of stumbling into one of those again 😉

Not all Christians show compassion.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2016, 03:16:56 PM by Rose »

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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #61 on: October 30, 2016, 03:25:11 PM »
Is fiction your bag? Or do you just like telling fictional stories and asking fictional questions?
I guess that it is a ghostly tale for you but for us it is more of a spiritual nature.
Our truth being given by the real God and yours being the fictional longing left unfulfilled by myths.  :)

I like fictional stories and asking fictional questions if the moral of the story is important.

I always thought that's what a parable was?

Jesus liked parables and often taught using them.

I guess he liked them too!

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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #62 on: October 30, 2016, 03:28:10 PM »
Rose you are right
and further more one does not have to have religion of any kind to show love and respect to ones fellow humans or to any other creature for that matter.

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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #63 on: October 30, 2016, 03:39:32 PM »
There are good and bad people of all faiths and none.

Bubbles

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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #64 on: October 30, 2016, 03:44:14 PM »
There are good and bad people of all faiths and none.

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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #65 on: October 30, 2016, 03:44:46 PM »
Rose you are right
and further more one does not have to have religion of any kind to show love and respect to ones fellow humans or to any other creature for that matter.

I agree 🌹

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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #66 on: October 30, 2016, 03:50:11 PM »
Indeed there are floo and what Rose and Walter say is spot on.

I can't help wondering why religion was introduced on this topic.  It is about two people of the oppsosite sex who share home and property without any romantic involvement, being able to legally formalise their friendship in order to protect eachother financially.  What does religion have to do with it? 
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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #67 on: October 30, 2016, 05:17:24 PM »
. A state where Satan was allowed to take over and cause all the things Floo hates
What did he cause and how exactly did he cause them?
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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #68 on: November 01, 2016, 11:31:20 AM »




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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #69 on: November 01, 2016, 11:55:50 AM »
God usually has three answers they are 'YES', 'NO' and 'WAIT'.  He will give the person time to look over their life and repent.
They can repent and so no action taken. They can proceed and eventually their own pride will be their downfall.



Well if we review your original request;


Almighty, and most merciful heavenly Father, please put an end to the work he does till he stops mocking the truth of Genesis and that every word from your mouth is reliable and truth. In Jesus Name. Amen.

You didn't ask or imply that God gives Anchorman time to look over his life and repent.

You specifically asked that he put an end to Anchorman's work until he stops 'mocking the truth of Genesis' etc.


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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #70 on: November 01, 2016, 01:30:40 PM »
The only 'truth' about Genesis is it an imaginative story created by its human author, imo.

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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #71 on: November 01, 2016, 04:03:38 PM »
It certainly is an imaginative story but, like many others, it contains a truth conveyed in pictorial language.
Unless of course one is a Biblical literalist in which case one would believe there were two people called Adam and Eve.  Not many of us are.
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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #72 on: November 02, 2016, 09:22:03 AM »
It certainly is an imaginative story but, like many others, it contains a truth conveyed in pictorial language.
Unless of course one is a Biblical literalist in which case one would believe there were two people called Adam and Eve.  Not many of us are.

And what is the 'truth' in its pictorial language?

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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #73 on: November 02, 2016, 02:31:52 PM »
You must have had it all explained to you when you were a kid, floo, as I did.
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Re: Celebrations
« Reply #74 on: November 02, 2016, 02:33:18 PM »
You must have had it all explained to you when you were a kid, floo, as I did.

They believed it to be literally true, and much good it did them, NOT! >:(