AN opportunity for the religious to provide their evidence

[Walter]

 give us a chance to evaluate your claims once and for all, we might even get some converts.

off you go..

[Hope]

Sorry Walter, but this same ploy has been tried before and proved fruitless as no-one on your side of the debate was willing to treat evidence provide with any honesty.

[Walter]

Hope
what debate are you referring to?

[Hope]

Hope
what debate are you referring to?

we have had 3 or 4 similar threads on this board over the years, and - as I said - on none of them did any of those on your side of the debate referred to in your thread title even attempt to answer any of the evidence.

[ippy]

we have had 3 or 4 similar threads on this board over the years, and - as I said - on none of them did any of those on your side of the debate referred to in your thread title even attempt to answer any of the evidence.

Hope, If anyone on your, so called, side of this non argument did come up with totally credible evidence, the world would be saying things like; "do you remember the days when we had atheists"?

Instead of the way things are actually going; "do you remember the days when we had god believers"?

ippy

 

[Walter]

we have had 3 or 4 similar threads on this board over the years, and - as I said - on none of them did any of those on your side of the debate referred to in your thread title even attempt to answer any of the evidence.

THERE IS NO DEBATE why do you keep using that term . Do you think it gives you some kind of credibility or something.

If so produce your credible evidence. Its so simple.

[Gordon]

Sorry Walter, but this same ploy has been tried before and proved fruitless as no-one on your side of the debate was willing to treat evidence provide with any honesty.

So we are liars when we point out where evidence claims, which as I recall you most often cite as being made elsewhere and not here and where you seem reluctant to post them here, turn out to be spurious in one way or another?

[Walter]

OKAY. its a bit naughty of me to start this thread because we both know you have nothing and nobody likes being ridiculed.
But if you have the conviction of your faith, give it a go.

[Owlswing]

OKAY. its a bit naughty of me to start this thread because we both know you have nothing and nobody likes being ridiculed.
But if you have the conviction of your faith, give it a go.

The only "evidence" that Hope and the rest of the hopeless crowd of Christians has offered so far is, one, the Bible, and two, an interminable string of fallacious argument and blind assertions!

[floo]

Sorry Walter, but this same ploy has been tried before and proved fruitless as no-one on your side of the debate was willing to treat evidence provide with any honesty.

That is because there is no evidence which can be substantiated

[Walter]

The only "evidence" that Hope and the rest of the hopeless crowd of Christians has offered so far is, one, the Bible, and two, an interminable string of fallacious argument and blind assertions!

yep, you'd think they'd be clamouring at the chance. 

[SwordOfTheSpirit]

we might even get some converts.

No, you won't. I'll save you wasting your time.

Hebrews 11 v 6: And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

Which you would probably call a confirmation bias among other things, perhaps.

If you are really interested, here is the best visual demonstration of faith I've seen. It's Indy's third trial in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Watch from about 3:16 in. What is unseen becomes seen when the step of faith is taken.

[Gordon]

No, you won't. I'll save you wasting your time.

Hebrews 11 v 6: And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

Which you would probably call a confirmation bias among other things, perhaps.

I'll raise your confirmation bias with an argument from authority.

If you are really interested, here is the best visual demonstration of faith I've seen. It's Indy's third trial in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Watch from about 3:16 in. What is unseen becomes seen when the step of faith is taken.

Congratulations: you may have invented the fallacy of 'in the movies the hero tends to survive all or most of the film by being told the plot first which is a confirmation of faith'. Do you realise how utterly silly your 'argument from Indy' actually is?

[SusanDoris]

I'll raise your confirmation bias with an argument from authority.

Congratulations: you may have invented the fallacy of 'in the movies the hero tends to survive all or most of the film by being told the plot first which is a confirmation of faith'. Do you realise how utterly silly your 'argument from Indy' actually is?

Thank you, Gordon, that really made me laugh!!

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Faith is something in which one believes without the necessarity of proof.

[torridon]

Hebrews 11 v 6: And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

Which you would probably call a confirmation bias among other things, perhaps.

I'd call it circular reasoning.

[torridon]

If you are really interested, here is the best visual demonstration of faith I've seen. It's Indy's third trial in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Watch from about 3:16 in. What is unseen becomes seen when the step of faith is taken.

So you'd be advising people to step off high ledges into thin air on the basis of a piece of Hollywood fantasy 

[Walter]

SOTS

so your best shot at evidence is to refer me to another fictional character in a Hollywood fantasy film and quotes from a book which is in dispute.

you're having a laugh aren't you ?

[Walter]

Faith is something in which one believes without the necessarity of proof.

I'm aware of the definition, thanks anyway.

[Walter]

sorry about this

can somebody tell me how I quote just a sentence rather than the whole of someone else's post

it would be very helpful ,thank you.

[SusanDoris]

sorry about this

can somebody tell me how I quote just a sentence rather than the whole of someone else's post

it would be very helpful ,thank you.

What I do is to click on quote and then delete the stuff I don't want!

[Walter]

thanks SD

any one else?

[Aruntraveller]

 Left Click and hold it down in front of the first word in the passage and then drag along to highlight the part you want. Then right click and copy and then paste into your post.

[Walter]

Then right click and copy and then paste into your post.

yes it works thanks

[Aruntraveller]

Then right click and copy and then paste into your post.

yes it works thanks

And if you want the words to appear in a box click on the Quote icon above the screen and this appears [ quote ]  [ / quote ] and simply paste between the 2 "quotes"

And if you want the words to appear in a box click on the Quote icon above the screen and this appears [ quote ]  [ / quote ] and simply paste between the 2 "quotes"