Author Topic: Brexit - the next steps (Read 416837 times)

The reality is that, although we were quick out of the blocks, may EU countries have overtaken us. Furthermore, there was nothing in the EU regs that stopped us doing what we did.

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From simplifying the EU’s mind-bogglingly complex beer and wine duties

which didn't apply to us while we were in the EU.

He's a lying devious piece of shit.

jeremyp · « **Reply #6333 on:** January 05, 2022, 05:38:46 PM »

This just in: there was never any ban on the Crown mark on pint glasses.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/59868823

Aruntraveller · « **Reply #6334 on:** January 22, 2022, 04:53:01 PM »

You remember when we were promised:

"There will be frictionless trade"

A typo apparently, should have read:

"There will be friction, less trade"

Aruntraveller · « **Reply #6335 on:** February 11, 2022, 12:27:23 PM »

MEanwhile, in the "I'm so thick I shouldn't be allowed near a blunt knife" category, we have Natalie Elphicke closing in on Nadine Dorries as they approach the finishing line:

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/watch-reactions-as-tory-mp-for-dover-tells-commons-traffic-jams-are-not-because-of-brexit-311470/?

Aruntraveller · « **Reply #6336 on:** February 23, 2022, 12:02:02 PM »

A fascinating analysis of Brexit by Anand Menon:

https://youtu.be/g75OIszvopk

PS It is long - 1 hour, but worth it.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #6337 on:** February 23, 2022, 04:06:53 PM »

And the cry was avoirdupois - which is ironic in many ways

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-imperial-measurements-economic-benefit-study-b2021304.html

jeremyp · « **Reply #6338 on:** February 24, 2022, 09:36:55 AM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 23, 2022, 04:06:53 PM

And the cry was avoirdupois - which is ironic in many ways

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-imperial-measurements-economic-benefit-study-b2021304.html

They seem to be somewhat desperate to find some economic benefits. My prediction is that the only economic benefit the study will show is to professional economic study developers.

Udayana · « **Reply #6339 on:** March 08, 2022, 10:36:02 AM »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/08/uk-faces-fine-eu-chinese-imports

Apparently we could face EU fines of up to £1.7bn for allowing fraudulent imports of Chinese goods during the period 2011-2017.

HMRC is yet another public service left to corruption and rot by the Tory government (imo).

Aruntraveller · « **Reply #6340 on:** March 08, 2022, 10:41:23 AM »

Quote from: Udayana on March 08, 2022, 10:36:02 AM

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/08/uk-faces-fine-eu-chinese-imports

Apparently we could face EU fines of up to £1.7bn for allowing fraudulent imports of Chinese goods during the period 2011-2017.

HMRC is yet another public service left to corruption and rot by the Tory government (imo).

The (imo) is redundant.

Spud · « **Reply #6341 on:** April 14, 2022, 11:59:27 AM »

Ex-pat (my sister) living in Hungary now has to pay £15 to receive a correctly-stamped parcel. What the?

Spud · « **Reply #6342 on:** April 14, 2022, 12:04:13 PM »

'Brexit freedoms enable UK to send illegal migrants to Rwanda, where economic migrants taking advantage of the asylum system will be sorted from genuine asylum seekers who will have access to legal assistance. Sounds a good plan?

jeremyp · « **Reply #6343 on:** April 14, 2022, 12:10:37 PM »

Quote from: Spud on April 14, 2022, 12:04:13 PM

'Brexit freedoms enable UK to send illegal migrants to Rwanda, where economic migrants taking advantage of the asylum system will be sorted from genuine asylum seekers who will have access to legal assistance. Sounds a good plan?

I won't say what I think about that plan in polite company.

Aruntraveller · « **Reply #6344 on:** April 14, 2022, 12:27:49 PM »

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Sounds a good plan?

No.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/boris-johnson-rwanda-asylum-seekers-scheme-b2057882.html

Spud · « **Reply #6345 on:** April 14, 2022, 01:36:04 PM »

Just keeping you on you toes there. Yes it seems very excessive. Would people agree that the trafficking gangs need to be stopped, though - somehow?

Outrider · « **Reply #6346 on:** April 14, 2022, 01:52:22 PM »

Quote from: Spud on April 14, 2022, 01:36:04 PM

Just keeping you on you toes there. Yes it seems very excessive. Would people agree that the trafficking gangs need to be stopped, though - somehow?

Somehow? You mean, by not treating incoming applicants like freeloading scum to the point where they'd rather avoid the official channels? You mean by not withdrawing and misapplying foreign aid so that the places these people are leaving are not so terrible they're willing to try anything to get away? You mean by not flogging weapons to despicable regimes where they can be used domestically and internationally to devastate communities?

Somehow...

O.

Spud · « **Reply #6347 on:** April 14, 2022, 02:02:00 PM »

Quote from: Outrider on April 14, 2022, 01:52:22 PM

Somehow? You mean, by not treating incoming applicants like freeloading scum to the point where they'd rather avoid the official channels? You mean by not withdrawing and misapplying foreign aid so that the places these people are leaving are not so terrible they're willing to try anything to get away? You mean by not flogging weapons to despicable regimes where they can be used domestically and internationally to devastate communities?

Somehow...

O.

Yes

Spud · « **Reply #6348 on:** April 14, 2022, 02:16:58 PM »

Or we could dig a very deep pit, somewhere where a smuggler was, just before he fell into it, only a few feet further on.

Outrider · « **Reply #6349 on:** April 14, 2022, 05:28:44 PM »

Quote from: Spud on April 14, 2022, 02:16:58 PM

Or we could dig a very deep pit, somewhere where a smuggler was, just before he fell into it, only a few feet further on.

And hope that there isn't someone else with access to a boat who isn't bothered about whether people survive the crossings? Whilst there are desperate people there are opportunities to exploit them, and there is never going to be an end to unscrupulous people willing to do the exploiting.

This is an issue that needs to be addressed at the source - we need to dry up the demand for immigration, not try to ration the supply. Rationing the supply with a high demand just makes the people more desperate and the suppliers richer.

O.

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